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  1. #61

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    baliktad.
    more like, religion and science are children of metaphysics.
    ah, mao ba, sir? so mas dugay pa diay ni ang metaphysics? hinuon ingon si mr. google, giattribute daw ni kay aristotle...ancient naman na siya, so possible

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    ah, mao ba, sir? so mas dugay pa diay ni ang metaphysics? hinuon ingon si mr. google, giattribute daw ni kay aristotle...ancient naman na siya, so possible
    murag ingana.

  3. #63
    ah so nagsibling rivalry lang ni ang science og religion

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    ah so nagsibling rivalry lang ni ang science og religion
    In what areas of science brad... except evolution... what areas ni compete c religion/science...

  5. #65
    ^in this thread, sir

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    ^in this thread, sir
    Well in that case... science is the last area of knowledge to talk about spirits.

  7. #67
    hmmm.. vague to ako post last time.. then i hope this is more clearer

    ancient people describe natural phenomenon on what they percieved it to be. perception is based on a person's education and experience.. religion is an early science.. we all know that the greeks believed there are only 4 elements.. thats how they decribed the world... because its all they know.. they dont even understand lightning... so when seeing a lightning.. one might say na " a sword of light came down from heaven to smite the sinner".. because thats what they understand at that time..

    the romans even even call elephants, demons from hell because they do not know what they are when they saw it in battle.. the people during those times described what they see or hear in terms of something that the other people can understand.. (if pwede time travel, try daw pagpakita flashlight sa ila, mo ingon jud cla nga ikaw sugo sa ginoo)

    now.. in terms of religion..

    we all know that the earth was made from gases in the universe... now what made the universe? the big bang? now.. what made the big bang? who made it happen?

    who or what made the universal laws that govern nature?

    then this...

    how can life, be made from inanimate materials? how can entities capable of reasoning be made from particles that have no intelligence? we all know that a computer, needs a programmer and a creator to run.. whos is our programmer? who is our creator?

    then this..

    how come, people from different civilizations with almost no contact with each other, believe in the presence of the divine being.. all religions of the world believe that there is a creator.. whys is this?


    science teaches us more about the universe which we live in.. religion reminds us where it all came from...

    science without religion is lame
    religion without science is blind
    -albert einstein
    (dili ko mo argue nya coz he is far smarter than me, tuo gani cya)

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    science teaches us more about the universe which we live in.. religion reminds us where it all came from...
    we are not arguing about what one should believe in---creationism or evolutionism. that aim is how to understand one without compromising the other.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    information or misinformation? hehehe. your quite optimistic about the "information age"
    the more information is not equal to more knowledge, more like more information, more sublimations, more zombies.

    An avalanche of informations at the tip of your finger... natural po kasama na dyan ang misinformation

    But its always far more better than monopoly of information,,monopoly pa, misinformation pa ang binigayhence no room for true knowledge.
    You will only have people cherishing blind faith,,,for the hope of salvation & the fear of hell,,and i dont see any enlightenment in that process much less "knowledge"

    Im sorry the church cant escape the nightmare of creating dead people out from the literal understanding of the bible.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    So what's missing with the INTERNET? hehehe! you must be dreaming. Internet spreads information not taught you how to feel. Brad pa tortillas ko ako itlog if you have given you charity to the internet.... point brad Religion is the vessel for compassion, charity, morality and... almost everything that involves emotion. If you are after of knowledge then internet serves you right. But if you make it as a substitute of becoming a human being gud luck brad...

    Whats w/ this comment "Brad pa tortillas ko ako itlog if" pa *** change kana talaga
    eto talaga sis kebs pa macho effect

    So sa sinabi mo, nag shut out yung feeling mo pa pag mag surf kanang internet? as in manhid sis?
    At kung nasa religion ka ay kumekimbot-kimbot ang feeling mo? ang char talaga sis

    A litlle psychology po

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