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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    If you are asking the logic brad? we just cannot comprehend... but always remember Christ came as a sacrifice... Remember that Christ always ask the father for blessings and ask the father for all he needed. Also remember infant Christ never know the world. Logical ba? If you ask tinood bani si Christ? yes, Check out READER's Digest 1989 Book of TRUTH.

    May I ask also brad, how come there is a mention of GENIE in the Qou'ran. No muslims ever given me an answer... if you can't its ok... qou'ran is not allowed to be talked about outside your church dba?
    no problem with that, because Jesus was not God.


    what's wrong with the Genie? Who told you that Qur'an is not allowed to be talk outside the mosques?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Brad I have spoken with some muslims about suicide bomber, its like this brad.

    Kana mga tawhana gi recruit na cla og mga rebelde... gi indoctrinate then boom. Commonly they are illiterate and promised thier family for fortunes, some owe their life to their boss and pay that price...
    actually brad we have it in our own backyard... similar kaau, kabantay ka anang rally rally sa manila... one time one protesters was asked what is the purpose of the rally... she was asked to define 'PLUNDER how she understands it', she replied 'PAM BABABAE'. Some also admitted to get paid... ITS THE SAME THING THEY WERE PAID TO DO IT.
    I think this is common misconception kebz, they are not illiterate. If you see the read the book "kite flyer", you will understand their reasons. Oppression against foreign invaders. I don't know if you were born during the Afgan-Russian war or the their history against muslims and crusaders. Any country can be like that if their means to live is being suppressed since their struggle is way back ancient times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    I think this is common misconception kebz, they are not illiterate. If you see the read the book "kite flyer", you will understand their reasons. Oppression against foreign invaders. I don't know if you were born during the Afgan-Russian war or the their history against muslims and crusaders. Any country can be like that if their means to live is being suppressed since their struggle is way back ancient times.
    Sorry trip, thats how they answer me, my colleagues... true or not they say, "a politically literate man will not kill himself but instead influence their ideas on others through religion" thats how they do the recruitment inside their Church. And Yes they told me it happen inside the CHURCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    no problem with that, because Jesus was not God.


    what's wrong with the Genie? Who told you that Qur'an is not allowed to be talk outside the mosques?
    sorry i don't mean not allowed but AVOID.

    I just came across a do's and dont's in SAUDI... avoid reading Bible in Public places, avoid talking qura'n outside mosque, avoid staring at ladies... sorry brad for my ignorance...

    About Genie just a few weeks there was this iranian family complain about the Genies behavour gone to court to file lawsuit against the Genie... Court cannot deny but admitted the material evidence on its existence... so i ask my colleagues and he never answer and i never ask again... So what is Genie by the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    I think this is common misconception kebz, they are not illiterate. If you see the read the book "kite flyer", you will understand their reasons. Oppression against foreign invaders. I don't know if you were born during the Afgan-Russian war or the their history against muslims and crusaders. Any country can be like that if their means to live is being suppressed since their struggle is way back ancient times.
    yeps, afganistan was like russia's vietnam.

    it takes more than money to take one's life and go boooom. what drives a person to go BOOOM...faith? perseverance? dedication? determination? all of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Sorry trip, thats how they answer me, my colleagues... true or not they say, "a politically literate man will not kill himself but instead influence their ideas on others through religion" thats how they do the recruitment inside their Church. And Yes they told me it happen inside the CHURCH.
    that's it kebz! You just don't say yes it's true when others have said it. you need to find the reasons first before you confirm that is true. Have you been into a recruitment group that suicides for their fundamentalist ideals? Or the people you asked were "inactive" members of the group? Yes, they are influenced but based on their national status.

    Politically speaking, any illiterate can be a president [wink, wink] doesn't mean any literate man can be suicidal nut for religious reasons.
    Last edited by tripwire; 07-24-2009 at 11:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    yeps, afganistan was like russia's vietnam.

    it takes more than money to take one's life and go boooom. what drives a person to go BOOOM...faith? perseverance? dedication? determination? all of the above.
    Thanks munz! I never realized that after I read a book about afgan struggle with Russia was like vietnam is to US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    yeps, afganistan was like russia's vietnam.

    it takes more than money to take one's life and go boooom. what drives a person to go BOOOM...faith? perseverance? dedication? determination? all of the above.
    Its political indoctrination brad... using religion! you see human interest trigger them to go boom... you might want to analyze the whole thing... If they are indoctrinated using Qu'ran their acts will not be justified... but people twist it to serve thier interest.... I am also an outsider brad we just don't know how they do it.... but if you say faith... hmmm, most science discovery requires faith, others are just accidents

    We all have FAITH right? its just a matter of Who is served on that "FAITH".

    Remember its an ORGANIZED CRIME somebody is teaching them HOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Its political indoctrination brad... using religion! you see human interest trigger them to go boom... you might want to analyze the whole thing... If they are indoctrinated using Qu'ran their acts will not be justified... but people twist it to serve thier interest.... I am also an outsider brad we just don't know how they do it.... but if you say faith... hmmm, most science discovery requires faith, others are just accidents

    We all have FAITH right? its just a matter of Who is served on that "FAITH".

    Remember its an ORGANIZED CRIME somebody is teaching them HOW!
    What do you mean by ORGANIZED CRIME?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    What do you mean by ORGANIZED CRIME?
    Before they go boom they will stay in front of a camera and read out his intention! You might want to check some in youtube if they are still in... their intention is not religious but political in nature... beyond this i do not know...

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