Pagan Origins of the Christian Faith (Phil. Daily Inquirer)

[regnauld]

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^So how was their respective apostles called? And where are the church they instituted?

What do you mean respective apostles? It's a MYTH bro just like the Jesus Story!

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Yes walay labot when it comes to man made religion for Theosophy is a Society of Universal Brotherhood regardless of any religion.

but theosophy has its own set of doctrines that members also need to follow. that makes it a religion in its own way also.. the only difference is that *new* members are not expected to follow it strictly..

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What do you mean respective apostles? It's a MYTH bro just like the Jesus Story!

You said those "myths" shared the same events in their lives, Jesus has His apostles and we know the their names. Tell me who are the apostles of the others who were like Jesus and where is the church that they respectively instituted.

When you say Jesus is a myth, NEVER call me bro. You should have anticipated my reaction to that statement and had a second thought about posting it. Don't make disregard what a jolly guy you are.

You are breaching my comfort zones.

[regnauld]

You said those "myths" shared the same events in their lives, Jesus has His apostles and we know the their names. Tell me who are the apostles of the others who were like Jesus and where is the church that they respectively instituted.

When you say Jesus is a myth, NEVER call me bro. You should have anticipated my reaction to that statement and had a second thought about posting it. Don't make disregard what a jolly guy you are.

You are breaching my comfort zones.

The 12 Apostles are symbolic and not literal my friend!


JESUS HAD TWELVE APOSTLES...TRUTH...OR SUN-MYTH RETOLD?

jesus had twelve apostles...truth..or sun myth retold?

It really matters not to me if Jesus had 12 or 10 to 100 disciples or apostles. Not wanting to spend too much time on this I will present just the facts and let them speak to you themselves. Let us not forget what we have already seen however. You be the judge.

Throughout the whole of the legends we have seen, Christ Jesus is the toiling Sun (being made equal with God) laboring for the benefit of others, not his own, and doing hard service for a mean and cruel generation. Watch his sun-like career of brilliant conquest, checked with intervals of storm, and declining to a death clouded with sorrow and derision. He is in constant company with twelve apostles, the twelve signs of the zodiac. The number twelve appears in many Sun-Myths.
Jesus is said to have twelve disciples.


Answer for yourself: Is it just a coincidence that the year has twelve months and that the Zodiac is divided into twelve "houses," representing the twelve divisions of the year (Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius.)?

There are twelve cycles of the moon in a year. The Jewish calendar is actually a Lunar calendar, with twelve months following the twelve cycles of the moon (Nisan,




Iyyar, Sivan, Tammuz, Ab, Elul, Tishri, Cheshvan, Kislev, Tebeth, Shebat, Adar.) Occasionally it is necessary to throw in an extra month, Adar2, to keep the Jewish Lunar calendar in sync with the solar year, just as we occasionally throw in an extra day (Feb. 29) to keep our calendar in sync with the solar year. The prominence of the number 12 is always a strong sign that the story is an astrological allegory for the passage of the year.
Modern scholarship tells us that the number "12" that we find in the New Testament concerning the number of Jesus' disciples refers to the twelve hours of the day or night, or the twelve moons of the lunar year (Cox, Aryan Mythology, vol. i. p. 165; Bonwick, Egyptian Belief, p. 175).

Answer for yourself: Is it just a coincidence that Osiris, the Egyptian Savior, had twelve apostles (Bonwick, Egyptian Belief, p. 175).

In all religions of antiquity the number twelve, which applies to the twelve signs of the zodiac, are reproduced in all kinds and sorts of forms. For instance, such arethe twelve great gods; the twelve apostles or Osiris; the twelve apostles of Jesus; the twelve sons of Jacob; the twelve tribes; the twelve altars of James; the twelve labors of Mars; the twelve brothers of Arvaux; the twelve gods Consents; the twelve governors in the Manichean System; the adectyas of the East Indies; the twelve asses of the Scandinavians; the city of the twelve gates in the Apocalypse; the twelve wards of the city; the twelve sacred cushions, on which the Creator sits in the cosmogony of the Japanese; the twelve precious stones of the rational, or the ornament worn by the high priest of the Jews, etc. (Dupuis, Origin of Religious Belief, pp. 39-40).

Answer for yourself: Now is there any doubt that the account of Jesus' having 12 Apostles might be again a further development from the influence of Gentile Sun-Myths?

A Christian's religious belief system, when tested and exposed to contradictory facts from Archeology, Biblical languages, Biblical history, Biblical culture, Comparative religion, Astronomy and Astrology must in the Spirit of Truth and Repentance, be flexible enough to change.

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be flexible enough to change.

Be sensitive enough to know.

I am aware of that idea in terms of our faith, but you in return should also be sensitive. I never posed a single word which may have a hidden agenda for degrading your Theosophy.

[regnauld]

Be sensitive enough to know.

I am aware of that idea in terms of our faith, but you in return should also be sensitive. I never posed a single word which may have a hidden agenda for degrading your Theosophy.

You mean to say I should not post this one? It's up to you to accept or reject!

BTW, I am not against the Catholic Church and please don't take it personally my friend!

[bluedes]

You mean to say I should not post this one? It's up to you to accept or reject!

BTW, I am not against the Catholic Church and please don't take it personally my friend!

you are crushing his faith (belief system) with all that analogy posts.. careful2x..

[regnauld]

you are crushing his faith (belief system) with all that analogy posts.. careful2x..

Yes I know but the TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE and it is up to them to ACCEPT or REJECT!

It's a matter of TEST OF FAITH now!

I could be wrong too!

The Jesus Story is everybody's story!

[bluedes]

Yes I know but the TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE and it is up to them to ACCEPT or REJECT!

It's a matter of TEST OF FAITH now!

I could be wrong too!

The Jesus Story is everybody's story!

for the fun of it, is there a one-to-one correspondence on who the apostles are with respect to the zodiacs? like john is maybe leo? mark is pisces? matthew is cancer? etc, etc.?

[regnauld]

for the fun of it, is there a one-to-one correspondence on who the apostles are with respect to the zodiacs? like john is maybe leo? mark is pisces? matthew is cancer? etc, etc.?

Yes and BTW, do you know this already before? I do.