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    he will go to a temporary place, then kung muabot na sab iyang time, mo reincarnate na sab to pay the bad karmas, apil na ang pag take sa iyang previous life. for sure mas lisod iyang life ani nga time because daku kaayo ang karma taking life specially his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    he will go to a temporary place, then kung muabot na sab iyang time, mo reincarnate na sab to pay the bad karmas, apil na ang pag take sa iyang previous life. for sure mas lisod iyang life ani nga time because daku kaayo ang karma taking life specially his own
    As a reincarnationist...giunsa man nimo pag-kabalo nga maka-bad karma ning suicide? unsa may bad karma ana kung someone simply decided to reboot his life and takes a fresh start kay nag-hang up na ang iyang life?

    Naa bay lists of things from somewhere or someone which states all the lists of possible actions or deeds that can cause people to acquire bad karma? At least in christianity we have the ten commandments supposedly claim written by God in a stone tablet (whether God really personally etch the list word for word is irrelevant).
    Last edited by Existanz; 10-17-2009 at 07:43 PM.

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    na ambot lang kaha unsay mahitabo sa kalag humag hikog but, kung tinuod man gani nga pabalik-balik lang ang cycle, mahibaw kaha ka kung ang imoang mismong kalag gikan diay nareleased sa lawas sa tawng naghikog in the (more recent) past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    As a reincarnationist...giunsa man nimo pag-kabalo nga maka-bad karma ning suicide? unsa may bad karma ana kung someone simply decided to reboot his life and takes a fresh start kay nag-hang up na ang iyang life?

    Naa bay lists of things from somewhere or someone which states all the lists of possible actions or deeds that can cause people to acquire bad karma? At least in christianity we have the ten commandments supposedly claim written by God in a stone tablet (whether God really personally etch the list word for word is irrelevant).
    so kung magpakamatay ang tawo, ma impyerno siya? kung mao na limited ang gugma sa imong ginoong gitoohan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    so kung magpakamatay ang tawo, ma impyerno siya? kung mao na limited ang gugma sa imong ginoong gitoohan!
    Ngano para nimo diay pag-unlimited ang gugma sa Ginoo buot pasabot maski to'ng di gusto niya iya pug-son pag-higugma niya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Ngano para nimo diay pag-unlimited ang gugma sa Ginoo buot pasabot maski to'ng di gusto niya iya pug-son pag-higugma niya?
    answer my question. Kung magpakamatay ang tawo, ma impyerno para ninyo di ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    answer my question. Kung magpakamatay ang tawo, ma impyerno para ninyo di ba?
    Well, catholic doctrine said yes so...my personal view is that, it's still the final decision of God that will be done to which we can't really know for sure, we will only try to make sense of it. I have trouble in accepting the eternity of Hell, but it is acceptable to me if Hell exist for chastening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Well, catholic doctrine said yes so...my personal view is that, it's still the final decision of God that will be done to which we can't really know for sure, we will only try to make sense of it. I have troubltheree in accepting the eternity of Hell, but it is acceptable to me if Hell exist for chastening.

    Well suicide as mortal sin is not acceptable in all cultures and traditions and therefore, not universal. In Japan, suicide is an honorable act and how can GOD burn someone to hell if those people practice suicide as an honorable act? doesn't make sense to me.

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    bitaw noh.. but then again.. mao man na ang view sa catholic church, that suicide is a mortal sin. pero sa japan unsa ilang faith? bisan mu uyon ra ilang religion ana brad. ambot lang sad.. didnt chck kung unsa jd ang major na religion sa japan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Well suicide as mortal sin is not acceptable in all cultures and traditions and therefore, not universal. In Japan, suicide is an honorable act and how can GOD burn someone to hell if those people practice suicide as an honorable act? doesn't make sense to me.
    Pareha lang na Reg sa question as to why would God would burn an atheist for not believing in Him...considering that He did not even give them an iota of what they really need to be able to believe in Him, since lots of talk about how gracious and loving God was supposed to be...tapos to think that He give human- atheist, this capacity to think rationally but its seems He wants them to forgo this nature. For me, I still believe God has His way and surely His punishment will meant to correct people (exemption ang angels), usahay di ba only after great calamities or tragedies that people seems to realized something is wrong in their life or society? I wonder if di magbag-o ang si Hitler sa iyang mentality after a couple of hundred years (hehehe sobra ba?) service in Hell..

    Regarding pud anang Sipuku o Harakiri sa Japan, kung buot huna-hunaon cowardice man na ba...para ra's suicide sa uban pag di na kabayad sa utang usahay nag-suicide na dala depression or too much anger for God bordering on hatred na for a life gone awry. Mas courageous ang tao nga na-shame or defeated yet still take life head-on and face the consequence for the things he had done kesa sa suicide just to escape all of it. Mao gani nag Harakiri kay di madawat sa mga samurai ang reality sa defeat...a way to promote blind obedience to the leadership and ensure total sacrifice in battle during feudal Japan.

    I can only say what will happen to a christian who committed the act of suicide which is surely Hell, kay before they take their life I'm sure naa sa mind nila ang gravity sa ilang buot buhaton pati ang Ginoo, pero tungod lagi kay grabe jud ang desparation nila...mas gitagaan nila bili ilang kasubo kaysa sa iyang Ginoo nga mutabang niya.
    In a way, they turned their back on God. On the other hand, kining suicide sa mga samurai sauna I think I can't really tell whether they are in Hell or not...only God knows really in His infinite wisdom what justice they would get...but as a christian I believe it is wrong to take one's life regardless of what reason.
    Last edited by Existanz; 10-19-2009 at 01:01 PM.

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