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  1. #61

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    This is hardly something we count as something Christian-related. Common sense lang. Remember that the cross wasn't a symbol of Christianity until around 2000yrs ago. How long have laminins been in our bodies? hmmm? Before then, God was symbolized as a sun/star or the all-seeing eye. Of course, it's worth pointing out that a cross during Christ's time was an instrument of torture and execution. He was not the first to die by the cross and most certainly not the last.

    It is NOT a coincidence, however, that the shape of the cross is probably a very generic and useful design. So it won't surprise me that it can occur naturally.

    ang kanang cross sa tRNA is just a segment, that's because of ssRNA binding to itself with inverted repeats sa iyang nucleotide sequence.. its not just cross, some make L-shapes pud.. and when you have a complex of RNAs, maglibog na ka unsa image ani jud.. mura na kanang sa alien ship..



    into L-shaped




    into this very weird looking RNA complex which is rRNA na..



    basig Jesus Christ was an alien...

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    mao. pero still bai. pinas kusog gihapon anang mga tinuhuan na wa diri wa didto. we are a nation who clings to the past man gud.
    that just goes to show how tribal our cultural roots are..

    pero maau na lng tingale sa ato-a.. walay mga witch-hunts ug burning at stake..

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    that just goes to show how tribal our cultural roots are..

    pero maau na lng tingale sa ato-a.. walay mga witch-hunts ug burning at stake..
    are we better than say, israel...?

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Ger View Post
    are we better than say, israel...?
    dunno with you.. what's ur criteria for "better than israel"?

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    that just goes to show how tribal our cultural roots are..

    pero maau na lng tingale sa ato-a.. walay mga witch-hunts ug burning at stake..
    maybe not that kind of capital punishment bai but we do know that when the spaniards came and shoved christianity in our face, naa gihapon mga executions.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    maybe not that kind of capital punishment bai but we do know that when the spaniards came and shoved christianity in our face, naa gihapon mga executions.
    yeah.. and all in the name of religion..

    look at our "national hero".. he died in the name of "religion".. gi-excommunicate gud..

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by hizuka007 View Post
    I forgot where I saw this. I'm still looking over google. If it's not on google i probably saw in a NatGeo documentary.

    Basta those aircraft-like glyphs were actually the effect erosion (or vandalism). Naa man toi murag cgi simulation on what the original text was and what would happen if those texts were eroded in time. The results would be similar to those flying machines in the picture. Add into the mix man's ability to associate and, boom!, you have instant UFO theories.

    edit:

    Found it! http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html
    Last edited by tokidoki; 12-15-2009 at 01:22 PM.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    This is hardly something we count as something Christian-related. Common sense lang. Remember that the cross wasn't a symbol of Christianity until around 2000yrs ago. How long have laminins been in our bodies? hmmm? Before then, God was symbolized as a sun/star or the all-seeing eye. Of course, it's worth pointing out that a cross during Christ's time was an instrument of torture and execution. He was not the first to die by the cross and most certainly not the last.

    It is NOT a coincidence, however, that the shape of the cross is probably a very generic and useful design. So it won't surprise me that it can occur naturally.

    Also, please note that it is only in OUR time that the cross design has meaning to us because of our familiarity with Christ.

    What if this was discovered BEFORE christ? Would humans make the connection? Definitely not! This just plain "association".
    as i've said, all laminins are not exactly/pricisely cross shaped. ang again, the cross shape is not really a cross (+) shape before, it was 'T' shape, pero gipaubos lang ang horizontal para naa pud version ang mga christians.....

    so,... kanang laminin wa jud nay kuyaw ana in relation to God/Jesus/or unsa pa nang mga divine2x diha.
    ....unya dili man pud sa cross nga shape '+' gilansang c jesus, kundi sa pole or tree mn. just read the origin of the cross.... wala man jud nang cross nga shape '+', version lang mana sa mga christiano gikan sa mga pagans.
    Last edited by hizuka007; 12-15-2009 at 09:08 PM.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    I forgot where I saw this. I'm still looking over google. If it's not on google i probably saw in a NatGeo documentary.

    Basta those aircraft-like glyphs were actually the effect erosion (or vandalism). Naa man toi murag cgi simulation on what the original text was and what would happen if those texts were eroded in time. The results would be similar to those flying machines in the picture. Add into the mix man's ability to associate and, boom!, you have instant UFO theories.

    edit:

    Found it! Pharaoh's Helicopter?
    hmmmm not convincing enough. labi na ang website sa links kay bukot2x style (murag usa ra ka bata ang nagbuhat), unya wala pa jud mga sources para backup sa iyang claims. purely iyaha ra jud.

    unya base pud sa iyang statements nga:
    The glyphs are a result of both erosion of the stone surface (evident elsewhere in the temple) and the process of filling in and re-carving the stone to replace some of the original hieroglyphics. The technical term for such a surface that has been written on more than once is a palimpsest. The usurping and modifying of inscriptions was common in ancient Egypt throughout its history.
    so kung common sa Egypt, nganong gihimo man intawug helicopter, nga wala mana sa ilang vocabulary/alphabet (though dili alphabet ang ila gamit) nang helicopter nga shape...
    example, kung ang original nga letter ato is 'T'.. then nagkadugay nagka erode, bale ang 'T' kay murag naputul gamay. then gi-rewrite sa nagsulat nga egyptians, then iyang gibalik ang letter 'T'. so ang question diha, nganong dili man letter 'T' ang pagrewrite? nganong pinahelecopter man ang pagrewrtie nga wala mana sa ilang alphabet?

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by hizuka007 View Post

    so kung common sa Egypt, nganong gihimo man intawug helicopter, nga wala mana sa ilang vocabulary/alphabet (though dili alphabet ang ila gamit) nang helicopter nga shape...
    example, kung ang original nga letter ato is 'T'.. then nagkadugay nagka erode, bale ang 'T' kay murag naputul gamay. then gi-rewrite sa nagsulat nga egyptians, then iyang gibalik ang letter 'T'. so ang question diha, nganong dili man letter 'T' ang pagrewrite? nganong pinahelecopter man ang pagrewrtie nga wala mana sa ilang alphabet?
    Bai, basaha tarong. Wala na "gihimo" ug helicopter" but like it is said: ERODED and MODIFIED (recarving).In his words: "The usurping and modifying of inscriptions was common in ancient Egypt throughout its history."

    Mahal man gud ang papyrus sa Egypt sa una bai. Only Pharaohs and some scholars could afford it, which explains why documentation is poor during those times. As what we debate in this forum most of the time, Christmas day, is a fine example of usurping of information. Walay gi ingon na RESTORED - as what you are trying to imply or are expecting. Kalahi kaha ug defintion sa RESTORATION ug MODIFICATION. Like you said bai, wala man diay na sa ilang alphabet all the more it would have surprised them if they realized that someone in OUR time would think that the effect would look like some modern machine!

    Going back to your "T" example, of course, during THEIR time erosion has not yet taken place. Erosion happens for decades! In the case of rocks, CENTURIES, all the more sa egypt na walay tubig ug uga pa gyud. Kadugay kaha ana mo erode! So whatever those guys were doing back then it was simply modifications, NOT RESTORATION, as what the author is implying. They are not within the timeline to actually see any actual erosion.

    Anyway, what you are doing is "pattern matching". Relating an abstract item to something of familiarity. In this case, a helicopter/spaceship ug uban pa. Would that have made sense to you kung wala ka nakaila ug helicopter?

    Common sense ra na bai: If the author said it IS a helicopter then it IS a helicopter. But if nagcarve na siya nya naligas ang iya tool gigamit then obviously SAYOP na mobutt-in and saying "pre, ang imo nahimo MURA LAGI ug Helicopter." That's where the misinterpretations and false conclusions lie.

    On another note, just because a person has bad taste in creating his website (which more likely shows that is old rather than well-maintained) is not a VALID criticism of credibility. If the site was made pre-2003s where CSS designing is not so mainstream then what would also make sense. And again bai if you check the author's credentials he's an archaeologist NOT an artist. If you're expecting a "beautiful" site instead of an informative one adto nalang siguro sa adobe.com.

    Ngano, di ka motuo sa balita kai tungod bati ug nawng ang reporter? Tsk tsk...
    Last edited by tokidoki; 12-18-2009 at 10:33 AM.

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