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    try to look at Jonkie's answers..While I tend to get impressed with his english, he is answering questions like a Mr. Mandaue Pageant Contestant....But this is managing a city not a foodchain where everyone declares as " autopilot"..

    Meanwhile,with the help of the FLYING NEWBIES, their votes here begins to catch up..and before May14, it will be close fight...and Jonkie will "win" here, And Istorya.net will be in front page of Sunstar/CDN featuring Jonkie's online victory before election day....and lastly Jonjie Gonzales will proclaim "The Good Prevailed and Thanks Istorya for making us no.1"...

    I just hope moderators here will extend their "moderation" up to the polls ...
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    quoted from raddiboy:
    I dont think so, Carlo placed fourth behind Bercede and Cortes last election. Even with Jonas not as "vocal" as Carlo in the City council, he is getting lots of votes.
    And it doesnt take a calculator who would you gonna choice to strengthen your vote..the one with the most resolutions or the one who topped the polls..do your math..


    carlo himself told me that he was promised the vice mayoral position by no less than thadeo ouano. carlo was just shocked when, during the launching on jonkie's birthday last november, thadeo announced that carlo will be running for pb. while carlo was busy with the pcl, he was away from mandaue most of the time. that was the time when the ouanos were looking for a vice mayoral candidate.
    don't worry, i'm not for the ouanos so don't ask me to do my math. i'm just telling what i know, which is info straight from the candidates themselves.

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    grabe newbies oi. gukod man mga flying voters/.

  4. #674

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    Quote Originally Posted by firewood
    carlo himself told me that he was promised the vice mayoral position by no less than thadeo ouano.
    Imagine if he is a PB candidate, whos votes is he gonna eat? Weng Gakit, another ouano ally..

    carlo was just shocked when, during the launching on jonkie's birthday last november, thadeo announced that carlo will be running for pb. while carlo was busy with the pcl, he was away from mandaue most of the time. that was the time when the ouanos were looking for a vice mayoral candidate.
    Calculations were already made, by making Jonas as Jonkie's vice then it was given, not even a Seno-Diongson tandem can rock this, Teddy is making sure Jonkie wins..but again Jonas has his own plans..and people right now is embracing it..

    don't worry, i'm not for the ouanos so don't ask me to do my math. i'm just telling what i know, which is info straight from the candidates themselves.
    Im not from Mandaue either and I havent met Jonas personally, but if I would ,I would be disappointed if I forgot to bring my camera..
    the mathematics here are just simple, dont need a rocket scientist to figure it out......lastly, Its good to hear your not for Jonkie..
    at least his voters are still "solid newbies " .... butari na lang pud si Glen bay ..



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    for those who do not know, jonkie seems to answer the questions very well and eloquently. yeah right! pero sa di mailad, it's too obvious nga it's copied from some textbook if not from the (jollibee) mgmt manual....pero mga impromptu questions bitaw sa sunstar chat room last week wa man siya katubag.... log out god siya dayon kung naay mangutana niya unya inig balik ang tubag mora tag nagbasa ug libro.... also, you're in the wrong league... you answer questions as if you're in either a pageant or something ---- very funny!

    balik na lang sa america, jonkie uy, maypag mag-respiratory therapist ka na lang.... aw di na man sad diay mahimo no kay.... aren'ts you thadeo mabanag ouano? if not, then never kang nagka license as RT. if you are, then let's see, you obtained your license on Jan 2000 but why did you let it expire on Nov 2003? why is that? whatever your reasons are, imong gipa-obvious nga giplano na gyod sa mga ouano nga molansar ka kay end of term na god sa imong dad... my question is, why does your family feel nga magsunod-sunod gyod mong mag mayor from your grandpa, your dad, and now you? nganong hadlok mo mapulihan ug lain? unsa may inyong gitago-an diha sa mandaue city hall?

    ka alegre sad nimo..... duda tag samot.... you were already in the states and supposedly working as an RT (if you ever did kay i heard ra ba janitor ka ra man) nganong god intawong niuli ka just to manage (for all we know, inyo man na ba, from the mandaue taxpayer's money) two jollibee restaurants? bright gyod diay ka kaayo, maayo gyod imong paminsar..... kuwang pa ba inyong nakurakot sa mandaue dili pa ka-afford ug jollibee franchise sa los angeles? so imong solution - go home to cebu ug lansad pagka-mayor puli sa imong daddy.... wow!

    my advice even if it's unsolicited: stop using jollibee as an example of your good management skills. as i've said before bisan pa ang hubog ang naghagok can easily manage a franchise outlet.... ang imo rang mga binayran ang na-impress!

    maayo untag paginhawaon sa mga ouano ug kadiyot ang city hall.... baya ning election sa pilipinas, pagka-ig-a-ampo gyod!

    "let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me...."

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    opps, typo.... jonkie, aren't you thadeo mabanag oauno? di ba ikaw man na? so ngano lagi expired imong RT licence?... ayaw sad na ipanghambog uy kay associate degree lang baya na....

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    guys,

    it is good that we exchange views about both parties here. it is kinda interesting to read the comments but please be reminded that some of them are now hitting way below the belt. please minimize it. let's keep the thread civil as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omad
    profiles and interview portion of Mandaue Mayoral candidates:

    __________________________________________________ _________________________________________
    Thadeo Jovito “Jonkie” Ouano

    Age: 32
    Occupation: Managing director, Jollibee Bogo and Carcar
    Government positions previously/currently held: Special assistant to the mayor, Barangay Affairs Coordinating Office (2003-present); Director, Accident Control and Emergency Rescue Team (2003-present)
    Spouse: Milanie Jo Kittilstvedt Ouano
    Children: Bianca Kirsten Ouano, 4, and Amanda Deon Ouano, 2

    How would you describe your leadership style? Who would you consider as your models in terms of leadership and why?

    I would like to pick current world leaders. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao has earned the reputation of being a modest, even-tempered and practical person capable of getting things done through consensus. He has guided China’s economy, supporting continued economic reform and growth but also pointedly calling for greater emphasis on social equality for those who have been left out of the country’s “economic miracle.”

    In fact, this is one thrust of my platform of government– governance with a bias for the less fortunate.

    Bill Gates practically changed how the whole world works today. Out-of-the-box ideas and solutions can come from anybody. I always believe in consultation and participative leadership. The best ideas may not necessarily come from top management. However, I will always have the final decision since I will be responsible for my subordinates’ actions.

    Pompous bastard! You need to start learning your ABC's of business first before you can even dream of becoming a Gates and Jiabao. Do you really think that mere mentioning of those names can make you their equal? Well, you've got paid voters like Wendy who'll buy that! Big words for a small mind!

    Which of the city’s problems do you intend to tackle first and how?

    All we need to do are basic services. Roads, streetlights, and drainage go first. These are what the people can see, touch or experience. This is what they need and I believe this is what they want too. In my first 100 days in office, I will create a task force on roads, streetlights and drainage.

    A study was conducted to come up with a comprehensive solution to the drainage problem in Mandaue. The study alone costs the City around P4 million. To solve the drainage problem in Mandaue, around P5 billion is needed. However, since Mandaue’s income will never be enough to solve the drainage problem overnight, I will prioritize the areas which will need much attention. I will base it on the study that Mandaue City has ordered. I will focus my energy on these three critical issues: roads, streetlights and drainage.

    My, Mandaue is on the brink of financial disaster brought about by your father's mismanagement and greed and you're going to improve the roads and drainange first? How about setting up a task force to look into finishing the market at the least cost and if you're brave enough to look at why 100M could only buy posts?

    Seriously now, management of a city's growth should be farmed out to professionals. I guess you didn't learn anything in your short stay in the US. Have you ever heard of a city manager in the US? These are professionals who guide the growth of the city. They are apolitical and retain their posts no matter what political party wins as mayor. They answer to the city council. You don't go to the mayor's office to ask for a building permit. You deal with the professional management staff. Mayors are political animals untrained to supervise the growth of a city. Leave these tasks to professionals and you will see a well-run city.


    What do you intend to do about the City’s debts?

    It is a matter of sound financial management and that’s where my management skills come in. No private corporation can operate without loans to secure capital. The public sector is no exception.

    Did you learn this from Econ 101? I didn't know they teach economics in Respiratory Therapy. Wouldn't it be better not to have any debts at all? It's just like financial management at home. You spend only what you earn. Walay utang!

    The city’s debts are mostly spent on self-liquidating projects that not only earn revenue for the city but also enhance its competitiveness in terms of infrastructure and basic services.

    The public market is envisioned to be one of the most modern among LGUs. Aside from earning for the city, it will also repay the loan by itself. The Bagsakan Center will give direct access to farm products and cut down on middlemen to bring the prices of farm products down. This will benefit not only Mandauehanons but the rest of the metropolis.

    I want to see exactly how you go about making the market self liquidate it's 500M cost. A 10-year mortgage at 6% interest will need 5.5M, 4.2M for 15 years and 3.8M for 20 years a month amortization. Add overhead costs like management, labor, electricity, etc., how much does the market need to earn to be self liquidating? Pray tell how your dad's super market can earn that much.

    Of course, there are projects that are not directly revenue-generating like roads, drainage, streetlights but its returns will be in form of attracting more investments that will increase revenues for the city and translate into more jobs for Mandauehanons.

    You cannot wait for revenue to accumulate to be used as capital; it will stagnate the growth of a company or the city. That’s why the city needs a good manager with a proven track record in management.

    What track record? Managing a fast food restaurant? You think you are good enough to manage Mandaue because you own and manage a Jollibee? You lived in the US for a while, did you notice who McDonalds, Burger King, etc. were hiring to manage their restaurants? High school graduates! That's all that's needed to manage your Jollibee. Please deflate your ego just a bit. You're no Bill Gates!

    Unlike Cebu City, our debt has not reached the billion-peso mark. It is nowhere near the P6-billion debt of Cebu City. And we are not paying P1.7 million a day for debt servicing.

    Wow, and you have the temerity to compare Mandaue's debt to Cebu City's? Cebu City's billion peso debt can bring about income that your grandfather, your father and you can only dream about. Now, that type of investment is what could be considered self liquidating and more. Your father's market could have been one too if he only kept his dirty fingers away from the till.

    With the Mandaue City Government as co-owner of the Cebu International Convention Center (CICC), what are your suggestions for making the facility a viable enterprise?

    The CICC’s location in Mandaue City already makes it viable. Mandaue has become the new center of the metropolis, with access to airports, seaports, hotels, resorts, dining and entertainment just minutes away.

    With an urban Renewal Program as part of my platform of government, these new growth areas like the south reclamation area of Mandaue City will be developed to complement the convention center facility.

    All future development in the area will be complementing the CICC, with the focus on making Mandaue a convention city. Existing businesses will be transformed to cater to convention and tourism-oriented development.

    Ongoing right now is the Cebu Boardwalk that will have a marina and duty-free shops. We will work to make Mandaue City the next convention center in Asia.

    Learn from Jonas, the non-economist! Hand over management of this center to private hands with knowledge in this type of business, otherwise this can easily become another source of graft for the likes of your dad.

    What are your specific programs to address corruption? How will you ensure transparency?

    My program to address corruption will be two-pronged. I would like to ensure that there will be full transparency during my incumbency.

    In my first 100 days in office, I will encourage the community to get involved in governance by pushing them to form a watchdog against corruption.

    I will empower NGOs, church groups and the professional sector so that they will be encouraged to participate in governance.

    While I was in the States, I saw how their democracy worked because the community is involved, the public is empowered.

    Is this enough to protect the people's money from the likes of your family? Your mom is actively involved in the St. Joseph Parish, helping raise funds for its renovation. Did her closeness to the church stop your dad from stealing Mandaue's money? I like Jonas' idea of a hotline better. If he seriously pushes this once he gets elected, government officials will be thinking twice before asking for lagay.

    This is what I intend to do in Mandaue City.

    If elected, will you accept the lampposts along the Asean ceremonial route if these are turned over to the City Government?

    I would prefer that these remain under the Department of Public Works and Highways so the City can save its maintenance and operation costs and spend our resources on areas that need them the most.

    Jonas' idea still trumps yours. Leave those lampposts where they're at now and thieves will steal them or vandals will destroy them. Put them in a park because that is where decorative lampposts belong or else place them around city hall as a constant reminder of the greed of your family.

    How will you differentiate yourself from your father and grandfather?

    My grandfather had the “masa” touch, while my father is management-oriented. I believe I have harnessed both of these qualities. Every leader, related or not, has different priorities and the same goes for me.

    Oh my gosh! The truth is out! You are going to emulate your dad and grand dad? Kurakot didto, kurakot diri. Kawat didto, kawat diri. Kalooy sa Mandaue.

    What is your reaction to questions that you don’t deserve to be mayor because of your age, lack of experience and the questions raised about your father’s track record?

    My father’s track record speaks of making Mandaue City the fastest growing economy in the region. A Regional Development Council 2005 study showed Mandaue City has a growth rate of 34.60 percent compared to Cebu City with only 18.26 percent and Lapu-Lapu City with three percent. Business confidence as shown by gross receipts’ annual average growth rate at 14 percent is twice as fast as the national average, from P44 billion in 2001 to P72 billion in 2005.

    The City’s annual income tripled over nine years, the number of businesses doubled over nine years from 5,000 to 10,000 small, medium and large enterprises.

    That is why I am presenting myself because the city needs an economic manager to sustain the momentum of the city’s growth.

    My platform of government will be based on investment promotions. I believe that if we attract more investments in Mandaue City—and this time investments on ICT and the financial sector—we will be able to generate the much-needed jobs. We will also be able to generate revenues for social and basic services.

    How are you going to attract more businesses in the city if you are going to follow your dad's footsteps? To attract these investments, what is needed foremost is a government that encourages businesses to set up in Mandaue by giving good and honest service. Asking for 3% will only drive them away.

    If given a chance, the budget of the City in my administration will no longer be biased toward infrastructure, but on human resource development.

    As Mandaue City is booming, I want the people of Mandaue to experience the economic benefits by preparing them for the influx of jobs from the ICT and financial sector.

    I was a working student in the US.

    My training there made me what I am now, an award–winning businessman. I learned the value of hard work. When I became managing director of Jollibee Bogo and Carcar, I garnered several management awards. I was named managing director of the year twice in a row in 2006 and 2007. Jollibee is the number one company in the Philippines today.

    My management skill is my biggest asset, as Mandaue City evolves from an industrialized city into an emerging convention city in Asia.

    Oh please! Enough of your bull. Istoryans, the answers given by these two candidates are very revealing. Jonas answers reflects his down-to-earth attitude. He doesn't reach for the stars to impress the people with his answers. They are honest, well thought and achievable. Now contrast them to Junkie's high fallutin reference to the world's great people to impress the listener. Shallow people like Adnes will buy that readily but thinking people can easily see through his scheme. Then look at the promises he's making to the people just to solicit their votes. Can he really achieve what he's promising? I sincerely doubt that a small mind that believes that managing a fast food restaurant is enough experience to manage Mandaue. Pulos hangin!

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    __________________________________________________ _________________________________________
    Thadeo Jovito “Jonkie” Ouano

    How would you describe your leadership style? Who would you consider as your models in terms of leadership and why?

    I would like to pick current world leaders. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao has earned the reputation of being a modest, even-tempered and practical person capable of getting things done through consensus. He has guided China’s economy, supporting continued economic reform and growth but also pointedly calling for greater emphasis on social equality for those who have been left out of the country’s “economic miracle.”

    In fact, this is one thrust of my platform of government– governance with a bias for the less fortunate.

    Bill Gates practically changed how the whole world works today. Out-of-the-box ideas and solutions can come from anybody. I always believe in consultation and participative leadership. The best ideas may not necessarily come from top management. However, I will always have the final decision since I will be responsible for my subordinates’ actions.
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________

    why go as far as China and the US in looking for personalities and comparing your leadership style with when you actually have homegrown talents in your backyard? are you too ashamed of your grand pa Pedong and your dad Teddy? that's the irony, most if not all kids would answer their "PARENTS" as their role models but not you Junkie, not you. I wonder why...

    "modest, even-tempered and practical person who wants to have a concensus before making decisions" are the leadership qualities you would imbibe from the Chinese Premier, does it mean you didn't find those from your dad and grand pa?

    mod·est –adjective
    1. having or showing a moderate or humble estimate of one's merits, importance, free from vanity, egotism, boastfulness, or great pretensions.

    NO, sadly you're not modest to the true sense of the word. ALWAYS boasting, referring to, proclaiming that you've "won" the "manager of the year award" of a fastfood chain in all your "pulong-pulong", online interviews and all media functions, sadly, doesn't fit the description. not even close..

    I puke everytime I hear that "manager award" line.

    I wonder "who" answered these interview questions for you? hmmmm...

    "out-of-the-box ideas and solutions from your subordinates" are the characteristics you would want to imitate from Mr. Gates? why not follow your dad's footsteps and coerce / pressure subordinates into signing documents such as the POWE from the last ASEAN meeting? why not follow your grand pa by adding another digit to the amount of a contract, from P1M to P11M? or are they too "savvy" for you and you think you could do a much better job?

    a much better job in corruption.. that is..

    this is what most Mandauehanons are afraid of, you, "A WOLF" masquerading yourself as a sheep hiding underneath it's wool just waiting for the right moment - getting elected - so you could shed it off and live your life vicariously with the mentorship of the ALPHA MALE of your pack, Teddy Bear. of course, who else would man that mayoral seat if not your dad, does it feel good to be a puppet?

    based on this reply of yours, you would NEVER BE YOUR OWN PERSON. you can't even answer them yourself and have your PR man fill it up instead. what does it say of you? you'd always be living underneath the shadow of your dad. pathetic.

    there goes your "cliche" riddled, "always playing safe", "little miss pageant" patterned answers of very simple questions which would have mattered if you would've answered them yourself wholeheartedly and not have your "ever-palpak" PR manager who doesn't treat Mandauehanons like they-also-have-brains-much-less-"common sense" to decipher that all he threw to the media are BS!! answer them instead.

    to be continued...
    Shut Up! Let your GAME do the talking!

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    Suspended Teddy Ouano(father of mayoral candd8 jonkie), Ouano's Offered 1m to some brgy captain, 2 civilan of tokyo brgy maguikay nd 3 bodyguard of captain Toni Dabon ge-bunog sa mga alipores n ouano, civilan sa brgy Opao rumble vs Ouano Supporters, jonkie ge petition for disqulafication tungod sa citiznship, pedong added "nganu kuno karun pa ge file ang petition" ouch! Guilty ba? Jonjie Gonzales state na DESPERADO NA ANG TEAM HONESTY? ka lousy sad oi hehe BANGA PA SA TADYAW!

    KA LABAD!

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