SATAN'S THRONE? unsa inyong tan-aw aning naa sa luyo?

[EZRA]

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What's so unholy about that sculpture anyway?

[Breakeven]

We cannot understand God's Holiness if we don't know his attributes.

To be holy is to be morally pure.
When things are made holy, when they are consecrated, they are set apart unto purity. They are to be used in a pure way. They are to reflect purity as well as simple apartness.

[EZRA]

... and again, what is so unholy about that Sculpture? because it doesn't fit to your own beliefs?
Look at it objectively ... and I ask you again ... what's so unholy about it?

[Breakeven]

What's so unholy about that sculpture anyway?

obvious baya mods you will not be blessed with the image itself. It is a Spiritual place we consider Holy, not an Art Gallery.

[Breakeven]

... and again, what is so unholy about that Sculpture? because it doesn't fit to your own beliefs?
Look at it objectively ... and I ask you again ... what's so unholy about it?

Not my OWN beliefs mods but God's standards in the bible.
Kung mauhon na, pwede pud iapil nato diha ang sculpture ni bisan kinsa basta dili lang Unholy tan-awn?

[EZRA]

It's their belief... not yours. It is their prerogative on what to do with their church.. not yours. You should get that in your head. Your holier-than-thou overly-zealous opinions about what's holy or not, what is right in the eyes of the lord and what's not .. keep it to yourself. You already know about Catholics and statues and images - stop trying to push your beliefs to them... and again, stop trying to make something out of nothing .. it's just a piece of art.

[EZRA]

Look at it Objectively I said ..... spare me from your lectures about the Bible's teachings ... I know what you're getting at and I'm not gonna go into that.

[%75life4Him]

how did you know that Jesus was referring to the Catholic Traditions, when the Catholic traditions are with no other purpose but to give God the glory.

how yould you interpret this bible verse then, KJV
2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the TRADITIONS which ye have been taught, whether BY WORD, or our epistle.

kung mark7:8 ray atong basahun dritso, we might really think that Jesus was referring to any kind of Tradition
but if you read from verses 5 - 8 bro in mark chapter 7
which states:

"So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”
6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’[a]
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

Jesus was referring to Old Testament Laws, Jewish Traditions and Mosaic Law for physical righteousness..
as why should one would hold to the partial traditions over the fulfillment(Christ)
and Jesus called them hypocrite cause He knew the reason why the Pharisees asked Him which is to trick Him.
because of their attachment to the Law(Fundamentalism) instead of seeing Jesus as the promised messiah they ended up
missing Him, so till now Jews are still waiting for their messiah, except for Catholic Jews and Messianic Jews.
example would be: one of the reasons why the Pharisees did not believe in Jesus as they were too focused on the scripture where it says no phophet will come from Galilee but missed the part where the messiah was prophesied that He will called a Galilean.

Jesus obviously is the fulfillment of the Jewish tradition and the mosaic law so obviously we should no longer hold unto those traditions
unless you are a Jew like the disciples(though you have the freedom not to)

Point is, when Christ fulfilled the Jewish Law, Christ started a whole new tradition with the new and final covenant
which is later called the Christian tradition or Sacred Traditions..
as Judaism is fulfilled by Christianity.

akong pangutana karun bro, kinsa may nag ingun nimu nga the verse in the book of mark where jesus rebuked the pharisees
refer to the Catholic Tradition?

Commentaran nasad taka ani bai noi.

Wa man ko nagrefer sa catholic church sa ako post. Ayaw sad ug inana Bai Noy. Ayaw pud ug assume nga gitira nasad nako sa ako post ang imo religion. But if that applies to RCC tradition, then that doesnt only apply to RCC tradition only because a lot denominations possess traditions that contradicts to God's commandments. Because it was not a mere human tradition but a tradition made/commanded from God. Look at Mark 7:8, "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions". See, its not the tradition of men that God againt to but its the nulification of law with the tradition of men. I hope you see my point. In short gicorrectionan ra taka. kana kung mudawat ka. Mao man gud ni imo gipost.

kay before pa na nasuwat nang naa sa Bible which we consider as Christian the truth and God's word they were once traditions...

Now since ikaw may nag unauna nato ug mention that this refers to RCC. If the RCC is free to make traditions on its own, what ground should we take to discredit traditions of other denominations? And when these 2 traditions meet, into somewhat like this forum, would clash. Because your apostolic succession is not recognized by those who are called "fundies". So unta sabtanay nalang ta dinhe.
If you read Mark 7:8 again
Since you have quoted 2 Thessalonians 2:15, if you have notice my post, I am not against tradition specially if its good and humane. But in relation to God, worship is a basic revelation of God to man, which I believe, must not be modified by human tradition.
I dont ask you to agree with me on this. After all OT bitaw man sad siguro ni sa images nga ato gihisgutan. Hehehe

[Kutokuyamadkuslad]

That's your own conviction bro its up to you kay ikay nagdala sa imong kinabuhi.

For me, the image is not suitable for a HOLY church. that's it.
My point is, preserve the holiness and righteousness of God in his Holy place (if we claim the presence of God dwells therein).

We cannot understand God's Holiness if we don't know his attributes.

To be holy is to be morally pure.
When things are made holy, when they are consecrated, they are set apart unto purity. They are to be used in a pure way. They are to reflect purity as well as simple apartness.

obvious baya mods you will not be blessed with the image itself. It is a Spiritual place we consider Holy, not an Art Gallery.

Not my OWN beliefs mods but God's standards in the bible.
Kung mauhon na, pwede pud iapil nato diha ang sculpture ni bisan kinsa basta dili lang Unholy tan-awn?

Boss Ezra, maski unsaon pa nato ni paghan-ay atong diskurso, di jud na motuhop sa alimpatakan ni Break ang atong gusto mahitabo. Kay sarado na iyang pangisip.

Break, contradictory tanan nimong statements diri. Moingon ka, "That's your own conviction bro its up to you kay ikay nagdala sa imong kinabuhi." unya ipugos nimo ang imong opinion diri namo. For one, you're no longer a member of the Catholic Church, so back off. Ke unsa pa na ibutang dira nga imahe, wa na kay labot.

Sige, i-analogy nato aron sayon nimo masabtan:
Ningsulod ka sa usa ka balay isip usa ka bisita, naa kay nakit-an nga decoration nga sa imong opinion not for public display gibutang sa living room. Karon, ayaw kog ingna but-an nimo ang tagbalay, ipugos nimo ang imong gusto mahitabo. Pareho ra na sa among mga Katoliko. Wa man mi manghilabot sa inyong kinaiyahan, ngano manghilabot man ka namo. And what you deem unholy, if we see that as holy, unsaon man na nimo?

[Kutokuyamadkuslad]

Kami diri mura na mig gubang plaka, daghan na kaayo gatabang nimo, hasta ang mga Mods gusto magpasabot nimo. Di gihapon ka moundang?

You said you want to know other people's opinion about that "Satan's Throne?" Ang kalain lang, you are singling out Catholics anang image imong gipost. Ngano wa nimo butangi ug Hindu god, or image ba ni Budhha. Why that particular image? As the mods have been asking you, you need to be objective. Balik-balik ka nga unholy lagi. Again, opinion na nimo. Maski pa moingon ka nalamdagan ka sa kamatuoran, that's your truth, not ours. Unya sige pa ka?