MERGED: Ping LACSON

[|ceman]

Bro, am impressed by this affirmation of yours! I really don't know if you are one of ping's PR people ... I hope you will make some research ... I have heard directly from a family whose two members were kidnap victims (for their security, I can't say who and where sila nakidnap), it was ping who offered help for them ... and they felt safe for a while ... because the paoctf used one of their rooms as their barracks .. nightmares came when everything they were talking in the silence of their house, even banal things, where they go, who they meet, the telephone calls they made or received, were also known to the kidnappers ... bwahaha .. the paoctf were the only "strangers" in the house .. how do you explain this bro? and there are other things they revealed which i can't even post here ... if the good boy image of ping has been held suspect, i think it is his own doing ... the philippines need to be safe and secure ... and i dont think ping is the right person for that.

Im no PR man bro, im just a nobody who is earning for his own living hehe, anyways, i didnt quite get what you meant by "make some research", research about what bro? about the "hidden properties"? actually i did, and based on my search w/ mr. google, i didnt see any concrete evidence about this accussation, basin u have better luck than me, so can u kindly share what youve come up so far?, as for your story, i respect your opinion bro since that is based on your personal experience, I cant rebut on that, the only problem is, you cant expect other people to also believe in it coz the story is neither documented or backed up by any evidence, so i guess I cant grant your request to explain about it, but it is for a fact that hearsays or word of mouth is the most unreliable form of communication, the story can easily be altered based on the person's perception about the subject, now dont get me wrong, i didnt say that you did, its just that, I dont buy it, PAOCTF is not that dumb to leave a trail like that have you heard about the Gokongwei kidnap case? Ive posted about it yesterday, so feel free to backread for it

[MalditohoN]

bottom line, bisag kinsa tingali nga aspiring candidate has his own "hugaw" but the thing is how they handle situation that could benifit them or the government itself.

among all the candidate, ping for me has more credits than others...

[Hellblazer 2.1]

every politician has a dark secret in them. ping lacson is no different.

[masterjanuarius]

Im no PR man bro, im just a nobody who is earning for his own living hehe, anyways, i didnt quite get what you meant by "make some research", research about what bro? about the "hidden properties"? actually i did, and based on my search w/ mr. google, i didnt see any concrete evidence about this accussation, basin u have better luck than me, so can u kindly share what youve come up so far?, as for your story, i respect your opinion bro since that is based on your personal experience, I cant rebut on that, the only problem is, you cant expect other people to also believe in it coz the story is neither documented or backed up by any evidence, so i guess I cant grant your request to explain about it, but it is for a fact that hearsays or word of mouth is the most unreliable form of communication, the story can easily be altered based on the person's perception about the subject, now dont get me wrong, i didnt say that you did, its just that, I dont buy it, PAOCTF is not that dumb to leave a trail like that have you heard about the Gokongwei kidnap case? Ive posted about it yesterday, so feel free to backread for it

I respect your convictions ... but i can't say anything bout the kidnapping i mentioned; but their story, I hope will come out one day, if and when Dumlao and Mancao will talk about it ... bro, how would you feel if your the victim, and you felt so unsafe because a black car stops on the street where you live always at night, and this is after you have paid the ransom .. the best thing to do is to ask help from the head of the paoctf(the situation is that of ping's time) .. which of course, a vehicle was sent to check .. to the consternation of the victim, and that is You: it was the same van used when you were kidnapped! just thinking bro ...

[|ceman]

Bro, i feel your point, if the situation is real, I myself will be the 1st one to rally against Ping, but as what I said, these are allegations and stories that anyone can easily draft without any evidence to back it out, I hope you understand that not all people buy these kind of stories, now about Mancao/Dumlao, abangan nalng ang susunod na kabanata, coz it seems to me that this case is not what it seems as it is, remember, Mancao had mentioned before that ISAFP has been pressuring him to implicate Lacson on the case in exchange of reinstatement & promotion, then karon ni bali xa, so i think there are people behind these characters, as for me, ill just wait for the outcome of the investigation kay dira na mu gawas tanang katag, remember Ador Mawanay? the so called "star witness" who made stories full of lies that it appeared like a perfect truth, nya taud2x ni bali ra diay, ka daku jud na toinks hehe

[masterjanuarius]

[quote=|ceman;4724881]Bro, i feel your point, if the situation is real, I myself will be the 1st one to rally against Ping, but as what I said, these are allegations and stories that anyone can easily draft without any evidence to back it out, I hope you understand that not all people buy these kind of stories, ...

thanks bro at least I know where you stand ... that story is true to the victims i stated above ... anyway, they have to tell, and I hope they will, but for the meantime, they are out of the country already and live there ... when they told it to me, you can feel their fear and disillusion...

[giddyboy]

Mancao back Thursday or Friday – DoJ chief - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

[nItO/pIrEnA]

singapore's present prosperity is credited to lee kwan-yu's iron fisted rule, he was a 'dictator' loved by his people. as for korea's division, i don't see how it fits in with this discussion as the division is a product of the cold war; but a look at south korea's history would show that it's economic revival after the tragedy of the war took place under the rule of presidents who were considered dictators

both countries now enjoy more freedom, but they earned it through hard sacrifices. what i noticed, especially among my korea friends, is that they act before they complain, while filipinos just complain and complain, we always want the easy way out

as for our nation, i'm sorry to say, but we have far too much freedom than we can handle responsibly, we need discipline, and a leader with a fist of iron can do that. true, it starts with oneself, but without, i daresay, an environment of fear to motivate such change, then change would be hard to come by. sadly, most filipino's are like immature children, and the only way to teach immature children some discipline would be through harsh rule.

i've been away from home for some time now, so i really don't know what ako mismo is

actually, i'm not a fan of lacson per se (heck, i cant even vote), what i support is the idea of having a strict leader who would teach the filipino people discpline

[|ceman]

amen to that nito/pirena

[giddyboy]

singapore's present prosperity is credited to lee kwan-yu's iron fisted rule, he was a 'dictator' loved by his people. as for korea's division, i don't see how it fits in with this discussion as the division is a product of the cold war; but a look at south korea's history would show that it's economic revival after the tragedy of the war took place under the rule of presidents who were considered dictators

both countries now enjoy more freedom, but they earned it through hard sacrifices. what i noticed, especially among my korea friends, is that they act before they complain, while filipinos just complain and complain, we always want the easy way out

as for our nation, i'm sorry to say, but we have far too much freedom than we can handle responsibly, we need discipline, and a leader with a fist of iron can do that. true, it starts with oneself, but without, i daresay, an environment of fear to motivate such change, then change would be hard to come by. sadly, most filipino's are like immature children, and the only way to teach immature children some discipline would be through harsh rule.

i've been away from home for some time now, so i really don't know what ako mismo is

actually, i'm not a fan of lacson per se (heck, i cant even vote), what i support is the idea of having a strict leader who would teach the filipino people discpline

i know u have a point there. but in this present political set up, that chance of having a dictator again is next to none. why? we are into a paradigm shift of having partylist groups that are called militants, human rights advocates, leftists, or even some rightists would say, communists, since they are protected under our laws.

we don't need a dictator. we need a leader that encourages and promotes discipline the democratic way. there is a big difference there.

u see, Phil laws are one of the best laws in the world. Problem only lies with the implementation. i could even personally say that on the physical aspect, Manila could even come at par w/ HK well, but less the sidewalk vendors, less the crime, less violations of building codes, less the pollution, and things like that if and only if we take the implementation of the laws seriously... MMDA chair Bayani is even no dictator but he is doing well in implementing discipline in the Manila streets.

come to think of it, Pinoys going to work in the US are more mindful of not violating any laws (not even a traffic violation) there compared to when they are still here. it's because the US is serious in implementing their laws. and to think the US is not a dictator country.

get what i mean?