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  1. #601

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    I'd rather die standing than die kneeling...

  2. #602

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    Quote Originally Posted by sygbyn619 View Post
    kita naku sa ganahan paliton sa atong armed forces..nindut sd..
    ang problema, naay mga kanahan nga pulitiko ("esp. sen. drilon") ang against niini ky dako ra kuno kaau ang budget nga gihatag..
    mau na nga ngcge ra ni ug debate dd2 sa congress ug wa pa napasar..

    naa koy pngutana:why not MIGs or SUs trainer variants ang paliton sa AFP?di ba ms barato to sila?
    kini pangutana nako nimo, which is expensive... you got it cheap but expensive to operate, or you got it expensive but cheaper to operate? remember you only buy it once... but you have to operate it as long as you want...

    ing-ani ang mindset sa PAF... ug dili pang eye candy lang...

    read this -> Combat aircraft: Cost of ownership
    Last edited by salbahis; 11-20-2012 at 01:38 PM.

  3. #603

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    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    kini pangutana nako nimo, which is expensive... you got it cheap but expensive to operate, or you got it expensive but cheaper to operate? remember you only buy it once... but you have to operate it as long as you want...

    ing-ani ang mindset sa PAF... ug dili pang eye candy lang...

    read this -> Combat aircraft: Cost of ownership
    thank you sa enlightenment boss..

    so operating cost sd diay daugon..

  4. #604

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotnowheels View Post
    I'd rather die standing than die kneeling...
    Oh I'd rather die sitting on a jet plane after busting 20 enemy aircrafts and 1 ship carrier.. hahahaha

  5. #605

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    palit nalang ni sila og jaz gripen.

  6. #606

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    Nice Freebies, the Italians really are generous...

    MANILA, Philippines - The Department of National Defense (DND) is planning to acquire 100 armored personnel carriers (APC)s and dozens of artillery equipment from Italy in support of the military’s capability upgrade program.

    Documents obtained by The STAR showed that the Italian government might donate 100 units of operational M113 APCs and 25 units of operational FH70 155 mm howitzers.

    The possible donations are in connection with the procurement of other equipment that may become part of what the DND called the “Italian package.”

    The DND is currently negotiating with Italy for the procurement of Maestrale-class ships, medium-lift fixed wing aircraft (C27J-Spartan), special mission aircraft and three naval helicopters.

    If the procurement pushes through, the 100 APCs and 25 long-range cannons may be included in the package.

    “In connection with the acquisition of the aforementioned equipment (ships, aircraft, helicopters) the Italian government will donate 100 units operational M113 armored personnel carriers and 25 units operational FH70 155 mm howitzers,” the DND document read.


    The APCs and artilleries are expected to enhance the military’s security operations.

    The DND said the Italian defense ministry has designated a liaison officer to the Philippines to handle the acquisitions and represent the Italian government in the discussions with suppliers.

    The department said it is also negotiating with the supplier regarding the specifications of the equipment.

    “The imprimatur to contract with them is directly from the Italian government,” it said.

    The Philippines is resorting to government-to-government transactions to fast-track the acquisition of key defense equipment.

    Earlier, DND Undersecretary Fernando Manalo told The STAR the negotiation for the acquisition of the two Maestrale-class warships from Italy may be completed by yearend.

    Last August, the DND announced plans to acquire the Maestrale-class ships from Italy to boost the country’s maritime security capability.

    Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin had said the two missile-firing warships would be acquired from the Italian Navy and cost about P11.7 billion.

    The ships have anti-aircraft, anti-ship and anti-submarine capabilities. They also have missile systems and modern radars.

  7. #607

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    Italian M113 (VCC-1)





    Italian improvement to M113

  8. #608

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    kung freebies neng mga apc i'd say this is a good deal with the italians.

  9. #609

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    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    siguro means you are not even sure... oh you think it will be at the computer flight simulator?

    1) T50 is a trainer variant for F16, all the design are based from F16.... why F16 because it is the only possible and practical hardware that PAF can operate and they've been asking for that ever since...

    2) i forgot what its name but it is an interface installed on a different plane to simulate flying another plane...

    3) Training are not done overseas but local... just like Sokol acquisition... this is not Singapore AF

    4) The rightway to go MRF is to go through Interim, T50 is interim....

    5) T50 afaik... is similar to most american modern fighter, except european..

    a trainer is not for training only it is still capable of doing what the attack version do... the only difference is the bells and whistles...

    if we get the FA-50 ok ra ninyo?
    Okay kaau ko aning FA-50 sir .... ug F16 ... maypa kana nalang kay sa T-50 .... kay panggubat jud mao ni gusto ni Pnoy ...

  10. #610

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    APC ra? Wla gyud sila mu palit ug battle tank bisan usa lang kabuok? Hehe... Maoy akong biliban sa China kay nipalit gyud sila ug battle tank from Russia which is maoy ilang gihimu nga reference model sa ilang gi pang himu nga tanke karon. Mao nga naay similarity ang tanke sa China ug Russia. Maayo unta nga naa sad mamuhat ug tanke dri sa atoa ba.

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