my Taiwanese student suddenly PM'd me in FB about this issue.. here's our conversation :
ST = STUDENT TAIWANESE
ST : Hey! There's an international tension between Philippines and Taiwan recently.
What's your opinion about Philippines' navy shooting Taiwanese innocent fisherman?
Me : yeah read the news about it..
ST: I would like to read what you read. Can you share the news with me? Perhaps it would be nice if I can understand things in different angle.
Me : sorry for the late reply.. wait let me look for some site..
Philippines admits to shooting at Taiwan boat | Inquirer Global Nation
there..
its in english..
ST : I don't expect there is a chinese version of news in Phillippines.
Me :same here
ST : It sounds like Philippines claimed that it was Taiwanese fishermen's fault because they intruded in Philippines's territory.
me : yeah...
whats your version by the way?
ST : But the news that I received in Taiwan was that Philippines navy fired our ship without any legal reason , it was described as an provokative and political action.
Me : ahhh i see..
ST : It was like Philippines was trying to declare a war...
so we are furious now...
Me : ahh really... you know news exaggerate things..
ST : And another reason was that Mainland China is going to attack Philippines for the sake of protecting Taiwan which means that maybe we will be swallowd by china into one of its province.
Me: the only witnesses of what happened were the mere fishes.. so no one know what happened really.
ST : yeah....you are right.
I still hope that Philippines government can apologize......(I know it's weird to say so ....)
ME : you know.. it dont want to say my stand on this.. i dont want to interfere what every both government wants.. since politics is a very dirty game.. mind you , maybe that thing that happened was just a front act of something more dirty..
ST : yeah....after all, politics is complicated.
But in my facebook, there are a lot of my taiwanese folks spread anti-Philippines statements.
ME : but mine, none.. it was on the news nation wide.. yet filipinos didnt made a fuss about it.. and you know lets just pray for the good of this.. we live in one planet.. we need to be at peace with each other..
ST : I guess there might be some philippinos trying to paralyze our government's internet....so some students here sent them some links of our school , so that they hope their bad grades records can be damaged by these philipinos
Me : ha? really? we have a lot of things to think and do than paralyzing internet connection.. our people are hungry, we have low employment rate, illegal drugs has been a big pain in the ass, all sorts of crimes exist here, we are facing a lot of problems than i think no one could imagine.. yet paralyzing some nations internet connection is our least concern..
ST : ah......
It sounds reasonable.
Your statement makes me feel pitiful for Philippines.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&type=1&ref=nf
It is a comparison between Taiwan's military force and Philippines, some of Taiwanese want to revenge.
Me : i cant read its all in chinese character
it cant happen if war breaks many will be affected...and i mean many..
ST : yeah....The comparison shows that Taiwan is more powerful when it comes to military force, and people appeal to the president to declare war, it is written like this:" What are you afraid of ,President Ma?"
The reason why some Taiwanese are so ruthless because they are not in the army so they just want to pursue a kind of excitement of revenging.
And some people criticize government that it buys a lot of weapons but it doesn't use them which is like wasting our taxes, and it is time for us to use these weapons to punish Philippines.
Me : you know those people are to aggressive declaring war, i wonder if they hear themselves saying the word "war" if they understand the weight of that word.. you know there are a lot of different kinds of people.. and i think those guns and weapons you shouldnt use those to philippines just use those stuff for more something big that might come... save them for the worst to come..
ST : like .....if one day China wants to liberate Taiwan from democracy, we can use these weapons to defend ourselves....
Me : yes..that could be a good option.. that happened few days ago its just a small thing compared to whats happening in the country somalia, and the poor children in africa who have nothing to eat...
we should be thankful that at least both our countries are not suffering from any of these...
ST : But the existence of a country is to protect citizens from other countries' attack, if a government cannot do so , it will lose the citizens' trust and we will feel insecure, especially fishermen. Feeling a sense of security is also important in daily life.
Me : thats true,but what kind of government that wants war with other country.. we already learn from our past and we know how terrible it is to have another war.. and you know this era is the most peaceful era humankind is experiencing
ST : not exactly the most peaceful ear since there are numerable civil wars in middle east and Africa. If i am in the fisherman's shoes, for example, if i travel to Philippines for the second time, if i am killed, i would hope that Taiwan can force Phillippines government to apologize and compensate my family's lost. The biggest problem here is that once Philippines doesn't apologize, and Taiwanese will continue to ask President to launch a war.
Me : maybe not exactly as peaceful as you imagine but at least the civil war you mention doesnt involve a lot of countries unlike in the past.. let the government do its own job to settle this matter,, yes we hire people to protect us and serve by making what we call government, yet the government should also be neutral in handling things.. its not all the time that the nations opinion is right...
ST : Government cannot be neutral, there must be something called "Nationalism" in it.
And someone must be responsible for the fisherman's death......I htink the most easy way to get rid of this mess is Philippines apologized and that's it. No one will get hurt and we will regain our security (and probabaly the justice of fisherman which I cannot make sure since a lot of countries claim the sovereignty of that area.)
ME : again i dont want to make my stand on this, coz its still under investigation. i dont want to say that its not our fault or its your fishermen fault. still there are no evidence proven...and
beside its not the first time Philippine navy caught Taiwanese fishermen around our area of responsibility.. not only taiwanese but also other nationality..
plus the fact that our country is rich in natural resources.. of course many would get tempted to fish around our sea..
ST : ummm... I have no idea now....
ME :
Taiwanese fishermen fined US$25,000 for illegal fishing in the Philippines <--- a past article happened last 2010..
ST : ummm....
ME :
15 held for illegal fishing | Tempo - News in a Flash <--- another article.. it happened in cebu area...
last 2012
ST : ah! One of the reasons that we are angry because the fishermen were unarmed, but it was inhumane to put them to death.
ME : yes i also read an article about that and i also read another version... no one really knows what happened.. and
besides why are they there inside our sea when in fact at the first place they know they'll get apprehended by the navy...
ST : probably they are opportunists... they think that they won't be shot, so they risk to trespass in order to get some profits...
ST : But .....it is said that Philippines overreacted because , the navy can arrest them ,but they cannot just shoot them ,especially they are unarmed. I read the confession of the survived fisherman (in chinese) , the whole thing was just like a ruthless massacre.
ME :
they shouldn't have entered in the first place.. human as we are, we are bound to protect our rights..lets put it this way, you have a boyfriend and you went out to the club, then suddenly some girls starts to get close to your guy and starts seducing him,, now tell me what would you do?
END OF CONVERSATION ani na topic.. uyab2x na iyang ghisgutan...
( actually at the first part dli jud ko ganahan mutubay ani niya.. pero kana lageh hagiton ta.. ehehe dah wa lageh ka tingog pag human ) BTW, sorry sa taas kaau na post..
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