RELIGION

[dead_soul]

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hahayyyyyy

I have to take this opportunity to thank you for opening this topic.Â* I haven't had much fun lately - until this topic opened up.Â* A window of opportunity has been opened for me to share and defend my Catholic faith.

Truth will set you free - if only you will allow it.Â* I may not be able to provide a concise explaination of certain Catholic distinctives, but I could definitely point you to a webpage where a number of doctrines are explained in its historical perspective.Â* Click here.

you sounded like my good ol` buddy tempest aka dawnrunner. parang ikaw si tempest pare. coz he mentioned something about these stuffs and hes been an advocate of a roman catholic. AHA! ikaw nga! hahahhahaahahah nyahahahahahahhahhahaha

[doctor_wat_son]

RELIGION?... unsa na? makaon ni?

[HoundedbyHeaven]

RELIGION?... unsa na? makaon ni?

Nope. It's far more valuable than food, which you can dump out later on.

[doctor_wat_son]

bitaw, lawma na anang inyong discussion uy. mga Acts, Ephesians, Corinthians, etc...

balik tang richard79 nga nagpataka lag panghimantay and judge ug mga tao. seems like perfect siya pagkatao.

hain kahay maayo ug iampo ta na lang ni siya nga hinaut pa sa iyang paglakaw mapandol ug mapakong aron makamata ug makaamgo ug mapahiluna iyang kalag ug huna2x.

hala sugdan natong mga taga istoryan's ang pag pray-over ni richard79.

...pero kamo lang usa kay maligo pa ko.

...ug saludo ko nimo pre sa pagraise ning maong topic kay interesting kaayo. pero i tell you, way nagdaug aning religion pre. suroy nya sa plaza independencia para ka-witness ka sa mga magdebate... basin ikaw to akong nakit-an

peace all!

[richard79]

bitaw, lawma na anang inyong discussion uy. mga Acts, Ephesians, Corinthians, etc...

balik tang richard79 nga nagpataka lag panghimantay and judge ug mga tao. seems like perfect siya pagkatao.

hain kahay maayo ug iampo ta na lang ni siya nga hinaut pa sa iyang paglakaw mapandol ug mapakong aron makamata ug makaamgo ug mapahiluna iyang kalag ug huna2x.

hala sugdan natong mga taga istoryan's ang pag pray-over ni richard79.

...pero kamo lang usa kay maligo pa ko.

...ug saludo ko nimo pre sa pagraise ning maong topic kay interesting kaayo. pero i tell you, way nagdaug aning religion pre. suroy nya sa plaza independencia para ka-witness ka sa mga magdebate... basin ikaw to akong nakit-an

peace all!

Baiz hala sugdi ko og ampo... but make it sure that iampo ko nimo og ninyo dritso sa ginoo kay usahay ampo raba ka dayon sa santos nga dili ginoo murag wala kay kalahian sa mga paganismo nga nahimogso sauna pang panahon!

salamat sa pagsaludo nimo nako bai pero sa tinoud lang wala man juy magdaog aning debate especially sa religion kay ang PRIDE mao may magpalabaw and i havent seen anybody who concedes on such debates....

Now try reading my previous post bai speaking of perfection! I AM NOT PERFECT! you are just putting those again into my mouth which i vomitted already!

@dacs:

Thanks for those interesting information that you gave! but im not buying it... you are just putting a different meaning into it.

[s.n.m.p.]

@ baby richard: Reading from your post, before ka mohusga sa mga katoliko usisaha una.Â* Like aning mga santos.Â* Murag ignorante ka about ani.Â* mao nay problema kay sige man ka paminaw sa atake sa mga dili katoliko.

Ang santos mga tao na sila nga tua na sa langit nga hado-ul na sa Ginoo. Di ba gi-ingon na sa Biblia that we will become friends of the Lord.

Now unsa may problema kung imong hangyo-on ang friends sa Ginoo to intercede for us.

How about tong mga nangamatay nato nga mga paryente, mga loved ones?Â* Santos naman sad to sila although not in a canonized state.Â* Dili na ba diay ka pwede mohangyo sa ilaha?Â* Bout nimo ipasabot nga ang imong relationship sa ilaha matapos na when they died?

Please before ka mo judge, read and have an open mind.Â* Tanaw nako bag-o kang recruit sa born again group nga mangampanya pag daot sa katoliko.Â* Class lang ka kay instead nga anha ka diha sa Gaisano Metro magtagawtaw dala ug trumpa, anhi ka diri sa internet.

[doctor_wat_son]

hik hik hik...

sowi bai i overlooked your statement that you are not perfect. If so, then stop judging those naglira-liraw lang ang mata pagsimba or nagduka or sige lang panghuy-ab cause you are not God who can see their souls.

hasta sad bitaw ako bai wa man ko kasabot anang uban nga magliraw-liraw lang ang mata inig klase. murag way pakialam sa teacher nga sige lag yaw2x sa atubangan unya pirme lang gaduka kay sige lag humol sa iyang uyab kadagabii unya mosud ug iskuylahan papel rag calculator pangdad-on. sinena pwerting nipisa. karsones gisi-on. sagoy kaayo tan-awn pero mahibong lang ka inig exam pwerting dagkoag kuha. wa man sad manondog. parehas sad na bai.

kasuway sad bitaw ko anang imong giingon nga mosimbag kadlawn nga hubog. pero nakatabang sad gamay kay nahuwasan ko sigeg binarog ug sa kaalimoot kay gipaningot man ko. naa say natabang gamay. hihihi....

i suggest, lay down your concerns about religion individually. unsay imong problema or whatever. ug kanang specific. just like atong gi-suggest sa usa ka istoryan.

tnx.

[doctor_wat_son]

"Class lang ka kay instead nga anha ka diha sa Gaisano Metro magtagawtaw dala ug trumpa, anhi ka diri sa internet."

hihihi... sakto!

toinkzzz...

[dacs]

Baiz hala sugdi ko og ampo... but make it sure that iampo ko nimo og ninyo dritso sa ginoo kay usahay ampo raba ka dayon sa santos nga dili ginoo murag wala kay kalahian sa mga paganismo nga nahimogso sauna pang panahon!

Are there saints in paganism? Do Catholics believe that saints are gods? To both questions, no. It may be your own thinking that is outdated and outrageous. Obviously, you have not read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. If you have, you would never have arrived to such conclusion and expose yourself to ridicule. Mauwaw man pud siguro ka kung magpatakataka ka. You are doing it, bro!

salamat sa pagsaludo nimo nako bai pero sa tinoud lang wala man juy magdaog aning debate especially sa religion kay ang PRIDE mao may magpalabaw and i havent seen anybody who concedes on such debates....

Debate diay ni?! I thought this is just a discussion. In an actual debate, the activity is moderated and judges are appointed. Both criteria are not present here. So, let us stop assuming that this is a debate.

@dacs:

Thanks for those interesting information that you gave! but im not buying it... you are just putting a different meaning into it.

I am not selling either. Read Ephesians 3:10 - 'so that through the church the wisdom of God in its rich variety might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places' (NRSV). Whose church is that? There was only one Church founded by Christ, and He associates Himself to her. This is further supported by 1 Timothy 3:15 - 'But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth'. Listen to Mt. 28:20 – '... behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age'. The Catholic Church has been in existence since the time of the apostles at least (as attested to by St. Ignatius of Antioch - the successor of St. Paul at that place). If Christ promised that he will be with the Church always, Christ and the Holy Spirit sent by Him never departed from the Catholic Church. Consequently, the Church cannot teach any falsehood.

Why? Because, before that could happen, the Holy Spirit must have departed first. After the departure of the Holy Spirit, falsehood could then enter the Church. If that is what had happened, then Christ lied. Yet, Christ told the truth. Therefore, guided by the Holy Spirit, the Catholic Church cannot teach falsehood in matters of faith and morals.

Ever read 1 John 4:6 - 'We belong to God, and anyone who knows God listens to us, while anyone who does not belong to God refuses to hear us. This is how we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit'? Could your pastor trace his line of succession to the apostles? I have already quoted to you the part of the Bible which says that no one can proclaim the gospel unless he is sent. Who sent your pastor? Please don't tell me it was God or Christ or the Paraclete or the Trinity.

Go to Matthew 18:15-18 and let me quote a part of that : 'If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector'. If there is a question on the morality of contraceptives, which church do you listen to? There are different voices among Protestant churches. Some are for it; others are against it. The Magisterium of the Catholic Church is against it. In matter of divorce, most Protestant churches allow it but others don't. The Magisterium of the Catholic Church is against it. On the morality of mercy killing, Protestant churches are divided. The Magisterium of the Catholic Church is against it.

Which church is the true church? Which church will you listen to? Are you free to decide which church to join or had Christ decided it for you? Are you going to find a church that 'fits' you, or are you going to fit into the Church that Christ founded?

[Von!-x]

@richard - it seems that daghan kaayo ka ug question about catholic practices. There are so many sites in the internet explaining both sides. You can also visit apologetic sites.

Except for Dacs and a few guys here, the others are defending the Catholic faith even if their explanation is far from what is actually taught by the Catholic Church. They surely need cathechism lessons from him.