MERGED: RAMA-OSMENA Conflict, and related issues

[wak_wak]

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naa na ni sa voters ug depende kung kinsa iya ma kontra..

[dodongnaki]

godwhacker bro dont get me wrong about atong laing thread kay ako lang tong gipaprove nga c mike rama dli cya puppet ni tomas. kani karon its about loyalty and trusts sa usa ka kapamily/kagrupo/kapartido ako lang pud gipadayag nga dli pud para naku maki-angayon ang gibuhat ni mike rama nga karong ga labo2x c gwin ug tomas cya mura nalang ug dli SAD-AN! kay murag c tomas raman ang g blame karon kay abi ingon ana gyud na iyang batasan nga very straight and direct to the point kong naa gusto ipa-ibot. unsa may tawag nimo anang gibuhat ni mike rama? kong ikaw ang naa sa posisyon karon ni tomas unsa man imong buhaton? nga ang imong deputy dli nimo masaligan sa tunga2x sa gubat kay dayon man ug ingon nga im friendly dli ko gusto ug gubot pero ang ma apektuhan ang mga namuyo sa yuta sa kapitolyo nga kong nadayon pa unta ang land swapping wla na untay blema nya wlay labo2x sa kapitol ug sitihol. hehehehe so karon na prove gyud naku nga c mike rama is not a puppet but he is BALIMBING. cebu city doesnt need a friendly mayor nga maayo ra istorya dugay au maka decide unsay buhaton, asa cya nga side dapig nya labaw sa tanan amnesyahon (dali ra makalimot sa iyang gisulti about sa dawat limpyo nga maoy naka hugyaw sa land swapping) i dont blame tomas kong ingon ana iyang gibuhat karon he's just being frank and direct, if i dont like you i tell you, BUT if i love you i will be in front of you. mao nay nahitabo sa land swapping.
karon i doubt kong mo support pa ba ko ni rama even if tomas change his mind and support and campaign for rama. kong wlay lain blanko nalang ang mayor, vice ug councilors nalang ako e vote.
ilovecebucity.

[LytSlpr]

if tom's reason is personal, mura'g bati pero kung ang iyang ipuli mas maayo pa ni mike then masapawan iyang personal reasons.

[peewee_toot]

^^sakto jd ka ani bro. i guess tom will look for someone better than mike.

[LytSlpr]

i mean, tito mike is a good person but kuwang sa vision and drive.

i think this is reason enough...


He recalled that while he was seeking treatment in the US, Rama was very reluctant in disqualifying Capitol in the bidding for the joint venture contract and in awarding it to Filinvest Land Inc., which caused delays in the City’s first sale at the South Road Properties.

“He was very reluctant… because he did not want to offend the governor, it’s a very clear indication. That’s an example of jeopardizing the City’s interest,” he said, adding that the incident caused him indigestion in the US.

Osmeña said he is also upset because Rama has not given enough attention to the problem of some 5,000 families occupying Province-owned lots, when it was Rama’s comments that made Garcia decide that the Province will deal directly with the occupants.

If this is the reason Rama has befriended Garcia, the mayor said he is now completely parting ways with the vice mayor.

“If that is his style, I don’t support it. I don’t agree with that so now we have a difference if that is his style. Then there goes the split between Mike Rama and Tommy Osmeña. You’ll take that road, you’ll take this road,” said Osmeña."


The Big Question now is, kinsa man ang angayan mopuli kay Tommy O.?

[raboy50]

Si Margot ang mopuli ni Tommy boy kon dili molansar si Raul del Mar. Mag ilog na si Cuenco ug si Alvin sa pag lansar sa pagka Mayor.

[godwhacker]

godwhacker bro dont get me wrong about atong laing thread kay ako lang tong gipaprove nga c mike rama dli cya puppet ni tomas. kani karon its about loyalty and trusts sa usa ka kapamily/kagrupo/kapartido ako lang pud gipadayag nga dli pud para naku maki-angayon ang gibuhat ni mike rama nga karong ga labo2x c gwin ug tomas cya mura nalang ug dli SAD-AN! kay murag c tomas raman ang g blame karon kay abi ingon ana gyud na iyang batasan nga very straight and direct to the point kong naa gusto ipa-ibot. unsa may tawag nimo anang gibuhat ni mike rama? kong ikaw ang naa sa posisyon karon ni tomas unsa man imong buhaton? nga ang imong deputy dli nimo masaligan sa tunga2x sa gubat kay dayon man ug ingon nga im friendly dli ko gusto ug gubot pero ang ma apektuhan ang mga namuyo sa yuta sa kapitolyo nga kong nadayon pa unta ang land swapping wla na untay blema nya wlay labo2x sa kapitol ug sitihol. hehehehe so karon na prove gyud naku nga c mike rama is not a puppet but he is BALIMBING. cebu city doesnt need a friendly mayor nga maayo ra istorya dugay au maka decide unsay buhaton, asa cya nga side dapig nya labaw sa tanan amnesyahon (dali ra makalimot sa iyang gisulti about sa dawat limpyo nga maoy naka hugyaw sa land swapping) i dont blame tomas kong ingon ana iyang gibuhat karon he's just being frank and direct, if i dont like you i tell you, BUT if i love you i will be in front of you. mao nay nahitabo sa land swapping.
karon i doubt kong mo support pa ba ko ni rama even if tomas change his mind and support and campaign for rama. kong wlay lain blanko nalang ang mayor, vice ug councilors nalang ako e vote.
ilovecebucity.

Bro, imung style depende ra diay sa thread nga imung masudlan. Ikaw ray nag confirm dire nga karon dili naka mo-suporta ni Mike because of what Tummy boy is harping about Mike's treachery. Mora naman gud ning giingon karon ni Tomas nga mag mayor ka loyal una ka niya. Mora naman ni ug mafioso bro. Ingun ini naba diay ang public service. Ako dili belib ni Mike. Nalooy lang ko ni Mike if Mike's assertion is that being friendly did not compromise his capacity to serve the interests of the public. Katawa lang ko pirme ining gimmickry ni Tummy boy. Pirme niyang gibungat nang issue anang 5000 families nga na apektado sa botched land swap ug karon usa sa mga pamasangil niya ni Mike. Poor fellow, kadaghan nag suroy suroy anang atong mga kadalanan karon nga nagpakilimos wa gani siya'y nahimo. Iyang gihimo pirme ng 5K ka familya nga ang uban gani ana proven na nga way bayad bayad sa ilang monthly dues.

[giddyboy]

tomas knows what his vested interests are. he doesn't want anybody on his team to even try to think to kiss and make up w/ the garcias. if im not mistaken, rama was only thinking of the welfare of cebu city, and cebu as a whole, and not only the rift between two political leaders with bloated egos.

tomas wanted to call it treachery, but i wanna call it just diplomacy and courtesy. and i think tomas doesn't even have those virtues at all.

tomas' not anymore endorsing rama for mayor doesn't mean kuwang ug leadership and political skills c rama. it's just that if things don't go his way, etsapwera gyud ka.

pila raman ka buwan na acting mayor c rama. if it's about performance and leadership, i don't see any justice why some brgy captains made their manifesto of support for del mar and the other osmena instead of rama. AFAIK, Rama is VM for 3 years already. and nowhere can we see any complaints on him sa Ombud.

did del mar and Margot O even experienced being a VM? no. abi ky congressman? abi ky asawa sa mayor?

i see it as politika ra gyud. they don't wanna see the leadership & performance but wanna see to it that they've protected their political interests in prep for 2010.

just imagine one brgy captain even said "Gusto mi ug kusgan sama ni del mar and margot". i dunno what the hell that means, exactly. kwarta?

[godwhacker]

Gwen: Tom-Mike rift only a "squid tactic"
Updated March 19, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU, Philippines -Cebu Governor Gwendolyn Garcia yesterday accused Mayor Tomas Osmeña of using the ongoing spat between him and Vice Mayor Michael Rama as a diversionary tactic to steer the public eye away from the city’s alleged questionable contract with Filinvest Land Inc. for development at the South Road Properties.

“Samtang magtan-aw ko aning Tomas sa akong lima ka tuig, more and more, bilib ko sa iyang pagka-expert sa pag nukos-nukos by making outrageous remarks. Ako ma-fascinated man gyud ko aning nukos,” Garcia said.

Garcia alleged that the ongoing conflict between Osmeña and Rama is but a “squid tactic” to cover the issue on Filinvest. In fact, Osmeña allegedly first employed the tactic when he called former Miss Cebu Second Runner-Up Kim Therese Burden as “Miss Cellphone.”

The expression “squid tactic” is derived from the ability of a squid to spray its ink towards its attackers in order to divert their attention.

Because of the “squid tactic,” media reports are now focused on Osmeña’s conflict with Rama and no longer on the joint venture agreement between the city and Filinvest, which the province had persistently alleged as highly questionable.

“Asa man ta mas dako ug alkansi? Should we focus on the 2010 elections or the SRP where the people are paying for its debts?” Garcia said.

Garcia said she became suspicious of Osmeña when the latter announced on March 16 that he will not be campaigning for Rama, a day after Bobby Nalzaro wrote about “Commissions on SRP” in his column in another newspaper.

“When I said we will move on and that we will move forward, that does not mean leaving Cebu City mired in anomalous transactions and questionable deals…upon close review, daghan ang nakapa-isa sa among kilay,” Garcia said.

Yet Capitol’s revenue information lawyer and consultant on information Rory Jon Sepulveda said the province does not intend to initiate legal action against the city but only wants to clarify some points in the joint venture agreement.

Among the provisions in the agreement that Capitol is questioning is that of the sale of the 10.6 hectare lot itself to Filinvest. Section 18 of the agreement states that Filinvest shall “purchase and acquire exclusive right” of the property while they will have “absolute ownership” of the structures or any developments that will be introduced into it.

This is reportedly contrary to Commission on Audit Circular 92-386, which requires bidding in the disposal of government owned lots or structures.

Sepulveda said it is also ironic that lot titles are released to Filinvest each time they make installment payments.

Based on Capitol’s computation, the ownership of the 10.6 hectare lot will already be transferred to Filinvest in 2013 after they have paid a total of P1 billion, leaving behind a balance of P4.45 million which is payable until 2015. — Garry B. Lao/JMO (THE FREEMAN)

[godwhacker]

^^^ ako lang gi post ang sa The Freeman (owned by I think the Gullases and friends with the Osmenas). Kadaghanan gud dire nga follower sa mayor allergic kaayo ug sunstar kay kuno lagi sa mga Garcias. So to be fair mangita ta ug laing source.