Let's talk about Mormons

[hizuka007]

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mao nay ganahan nako sa mormon ba kay ang mga girls nila dili parihas sa ubang mga babae... mao nay ganahan nako... heheehehee

[schmuck]

The link above is, first and foremost, not from or by the LDS church - although it touched some points in our doctrine. This is our church's website The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The LDS 'version' of the creation would be that God the Father made the whole universe (that includes this world of course). But He was not alone at that time. Under His direction, other heavenly beings were involved in the creation. Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..."

The thing is the LDS church recognizes these scriptures:
1. Bible (Old and New Testament)
2. The Book of Mormon
3. Doctine and Covenants
4. Pearl of Great Price

I know these scriptures are true and were written by prophets of God. I also know that the Bible alone does not contain the fullness of the gospel and since it is a compilation of a fraction of ancient records that were recovered, I know the Bible is incomplete and contains many discrepancies. While that is not to say that the Bible is not a word of God. The LDS church holds that Bible to be the word of God because it is a compilation of records written by His prophets. The sad thing about it is that it's not complete. There are a lot of books missing and/or were not recovered. It is just but a fraction of the total writings of the prophets in the Middle Eastern area. The Book of Mormon to be another Testament of Jesus Christ that he is our savior and Messiah to compliment the Bible. The Lord has given us other scriptures to prove his divinity and confound all man-made interpretations of the Bible.

It is understandable though that many other religions question some points of the LDS doctrine because they couldn't find it in the Bible like the 'Pre-mortal existence' - that we as spirits already existed before this world was created and that we were sent here to obtain bodies and prove our worthiness to return to God's presence. There are verses in the Bible that points that out but of course the Bible alone cannot prove anything to human beings because we would always have different interpretations. Ever wondered why there are so many Christian denominations now?

And again, I know the Bible, the Old and New Testament, is a word of God. I know it contains records written by prophets of God. I also know that the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price are true, and from God, and were written by His prophets.

one word question: how?

[cromagnon]

wow nindota ana gud.
mora d i kag muslim ana..

dili sad pede daghna asawa oi,.. haka2 rna

Hala oie?! mao ba? so imo sad parents na minyo sa Manila? grabeha oie, so di pwde sa lain church or something?! na curious na nuon ko sa pagka sulti nimo na bongga ang temple, curious ko sa interior design, kay ingon man ka na fine architecture ang ga design. that's WOAH kaau! hehehe

yep, just check it out on google search:" mormon temples"

wla cla nkasal oi kat laim2 man amo religion: ako mama catholiko, ako kai Atheist namn ko

tagiya sa Western Watts kay mormon man daw...

ako amigo...iyang barkada na-convert to mormon...nakatrabaho dayon sa Western Watts...

gi-ingnan ra siya nga pass ug resume sa Watts...

sa western watts ang mormon kay ang president ra . if member mka recommend cla/ mka pabor. but kinahanglan qualified sad ka.

[maddox22]

one word question: how?

How did I know? Thank you for asking and I'm very willing to share my experience and how I came to know and gained my own testimony.

First of all, I should say that it is everyone's responsibility to search for the truth. For me, searching for the truth means to be unbiased, neutral, honest - that you are really seeking for the truth, and UNINFLUENCED - meaning that we should not believe just because we are told to believe. We should be critical minded and ask questions.

My parents were LDS since I was born. I grew up in the church. But it doesn't mean that I immediately accepted what was taught to me. Partly also because I went to a Catholic school. I also had some friends who were Baptists, Born Again, Seventh-Day Adventists, etc...

Specially in college I came across a lot of critical minded professors who question the existence of God. I have also heard and read tremendous amount of anti-mormon literature and attacks.

In other words, I doubted. I doubted that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. That the Book of Mormon could just be his own work and he fooled us. That the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is nothing but just another religious denomination.

So what did I do? I searched for more answers about Joseph Smith. I searched about his history and what he's done. Because for me he is the key to my questions. If I would know to myself that he is a fraud then of course the LDS church would then be a fraud. But if I know that he is a true prophet of God then I would know that the Book of Mormon which he claimed to translate from ancient records, the Doctrine & Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, and the LDS church is true and holds the power and authority from God to perform the ordinances.

So I read about his history and the LDS church's history. I read as many anti-mormon literature I can get. So I gathered many positive things about Joseph Smith and I've also gathered many negative things about him. That includes accusations and lawsuits filed against him. But still I can't come to a conclusion whether he is a fraud or not because for me it seemed to balance out. He's had many negative writings about him but he's also had so much positive writings about him. Who wrote what? Of course, the negative writings came from other churches attacking him. The positive ones came from writers from the LDS church. But to be honest each negative thing I read about Joseph Smith makes me doubt him more despite of the positive things I read. Maybe it's human nature but that's what I felt.

But that was not enough for me to really know. And I knew I had only one thing left to do to really know for myself whether he is a fraud or not. Do you know what that is?

Pray.

I knew that God exists and that He answers prayers. I would just ask Him if Joseph Smith really was His prophet or not. I know that if I asked in faith really wanting to know and really seeking for an answer then I thought He won't let me down. Because that's what He's promised us. 'Ask and ye shall receive'.

I guess you already know what answered I received. Right after I prayed sincerely, I received an answer. The answer was not dramatic like through a lightning or rain or the lights switched on and off or an angel appeared. The answer came through a very peaceful feeling in my heart. It was a feeling that I knew that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God and that God called Him in our day to restore His church. It was as if my whole existence knew it and I could never deny it. It was just a simple answer that God gave me. 'From small and simple things shall great things come to pass'.

After this all doubts were removed from my head. I know there will always be attacks against the church but what matters to me is the answer I received from my prayer. And that feeling has never changed.

That is the reason why you see missionaries in the streets. They don't get paid. It's a lot of sacrifice. But they know it's worth it as I have.

That is what I can advice also to others who are genuinely seeking for the truth. The LDS missionaries can give you evidence of the truthfulness of our doctrine and of the church but it's still up to you to find it out for yourself. And that is through prayer. Ask God if the things that they tell you are true. That is the only way to really know.

[cromagnon]

pwede mo shift pagka Mormon? ka nindot ani oi

kung gusto ka , pangita sa ug missionary man pa-adto0a sa inyoha para i-teach ka sa ila gospel.
if ma baptize ka kay i-submerge ka sa tubig na taga-waist level nga water. if manguyab ka kinahanglan magpaconvert sa mormon if magminyo mo.hehe

mao nay ganahan nako sa mormon ba kay ang mga girls nila dili parihas sa ubang mga babae... mao nay ganahan nako... heheehehee

mao nay ganahan nimo hizuka, kun manguyab ka , kay dili raba ka sugton ug dili ka magpabunyag didto.

one word question: how?

smuck sa lain2 na mga religion na manjud ikasaway ang any atheist . but desregarding sa bible . by looking lang sa unsa pagka organize ang church ,. mka discipline jud noon sa imo life.
lets jus leave them alone.

[maddox22]

Ang Western Wats was formerly by Ron Lindorf (not sure about the spelling). He is an LDS. Last 2004 he retired and sold the company. So the owners of Western Wats now are not LDS. It's a rumor nga kung LDS ka automatic makasulod naka sa Wats. Dili gyud intawn. I have some LDS friends nga wala kasulod because wala kapasar sa interview. And dili sad ta kaingon nga mas hatagan ug pabor ang mga LDS kay ang mga recruiting officer dili man mga LDS and they are pretty strict about that.

I know this because I've worked there from 2004-2007.

[maddox22]

In addition to what I posted above...

Bible bashing or arguing points in the Bible reading verses to prove a certain point will never help. It will only make things worse. As we all can see there are almost 3000 Christian denominations all over the world today. They all claim to have the correct gospel and would readily argue with you with the Bible.

God designed the method of acquiring truth to be simple. Just ask Him.

To be fair, engaging in Bible debates may be helpful in a way that your reasoning may be developed and your knowledge about the Bible may increase. But one should not stop there. He should not rely on his own wisdom and logic. He should ask God in sincere prayer what is true.

[schmuck]

^^^
Personal Experience.
If only useful knowledge, like a cure for cancer and AIDS, could be derived from it.

But I digress.

smuck sa lain2 na mga religion na manjud ikasaway ang any atheist . but desregarding sa bible . by looking lang sa unsa pagka organize ang church ,. mka discipline jud noon sa imo life.
lets jus leave them alone.

touche cromagnon

Back to the topic. American Mormon girls!

[saijo_18]

Hala na unsa na, mormon girls, bitaw noh'?! naa baya jud place dri sa US na mga amish... ga kalesa lang cla permi... naa man cguro somewhere in PA ang dako na community...

Kita man ko ana sa ila about sa ilang life mga Amish sa National Geographic, grabeh lagi kaayo... kutob ra man diay na cla og 12th grade na usually, tapos kung mo abut na cla og certain age bitaw, mag decide na cla if gusto nila mo continue as amish and etc. if ma decide cla na mo continue, mo work na daun na cla, di na cla maka continue og school... dapat mag attend sa simbahan and so on. Nice baya to na documentary, kay naa pod cla'y party bah, party sa mga amish children na before mo decide if mag continue as amish, kuyaw kaau, ga party cla, mga girls kay ga sayal tapos long sleeves tapos naa'y morag kalo2x na panapton sa ilang ulo. search lang sa youtune, basin naa.

Back to Mormons, naa cla'y connections sa amish?!

tapos inig after sa ilang 2 years of serving ba, they can do what they want nah?! pwde mag pants like regular teenagers or girls?!

Wala man ko kita sa interior sa temple sa Manila, pero nice kaau ang exterior niya...

kita pod ko ani ol, wa ko kabalo asa ang loc ani, pero LDS Temple sad ni. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Od-eCzudDG...mon_temple.jpg

nice kaau!!!

naa diay ko question para kang
@Maddox22 and @Cromagnon - So inyo parents na minyo sa Manila?! Since ingon man na dapat sa temple jud mag minyo... So tanan mormons or LDS na mag minyo sa Manila ga e held ang ceremony.?!

[maddox22]

Back to Mormons, naa cla'y connections sa amish?!

No. Absolutely not. Wala mi connections sa 'amish' and I haven't heard about them until now.

naa diay ko question para kang
@Maddox22 and @Cromagnon - So inyo parents na minyo sa Manila?! Since ingon man na dapat sa temple jud mag minyo... So tanan mormons or LDS na mag minyo sa Manila ga e held ang ceremony.?!

Minyo na daan akong parents when they converted to LDS. So wala sila na minyo sa temple. But nag 'Family Sealing' mi sa Manila Temple last May 1999. Family Sealing is an ordinance in the temple where you will be sealed with your family 'forever' even after this life.