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    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    Perception or the difference between animals is not much of an issue. Before us is a choice whether to KILL (in the name of economics and social/culture side of it) OR NOT TO KILL (for the sake of perpetuating biodiversity).

    Killing whales is a bad case of economics as whales are difficult-to-replenish marine resources compared to cattle or poultry. It's also bad culture to kill whales for the sake of tradition. Humans can let go of tradition anytime if they so will. As I've mentioned, we had a bad case of tradition like slavery that was going on since the advent of civilization but we got rid of it. And as I've mentioned, I don't see any reason why a bad tradition like killing whales can't be abandoned as we did with slavery.
    Brownprose, I wouldn't put slavery in the same sentence as tradition. That word is so vague and can be so many things, that is not an appropriate thing to make an example of, kung i-compare gani nimo sa whale-hunting. What specific period, and what particular form of slavery are you talking about?

    Let's save the whales!

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    cannibalism is survival....thats what i know...eating of a flesh of an anmial of its own kind...
    i think human i a cannibal...because human eats its own kind...just to survive...

    in connection to dolphens and whales chocho...not only dolphens if posible then all must be manage will because it is part of the food chain if one of the food chain will be gone..who will suffer? i think the King of all preditors wtch is us. who will be suffer..so why not manage it will? because if all this stuff will extinct. maybe thats the time Human eat Human...

    its only managing and preserving, use the resources wise...not for tratitional purposes...or so what ever......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post

    Rodsky, have you ever seen in the insides of a human being? Have you ever cut the skin open exposing those fascinating muscles, veins, arteries, human passageways. Even human fat is fascinating.
    Funny you should mention that--I'm actually scheduled to go to Cebu Doc sometime soon, to examine a human trachea and lungs (from cadavers), as part of research for an upcoming virtual asthma project. I'll send you a detailed report if I do ever find them fascinating, as you say they are.

    -RODION

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    Well, sgrnim, can we take a vote? Should we save the whales and dolphins or not? Let's stop the discussion and start the action.

    @rodsky: tracheas and lungs aren't that fascinating. but I remember reading about a tribe who roast their dead for days, they dance around the corpse, and they drink the fluids dripping from the decomposing body as part of a sacred ritual.

    Let's save the dolphins!

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    @ The_Child

    The other day, I saw a video on the web of this guy half eaten by a shark. Poor fellow must've been scared enough to crap his pants. Prolly hurt like hell too. My point? Sometimes in life, the **** hits the fan. The shark was prolly hungry and only looking out for itself. Us humans do the same thing as well. We dislike dolphin hunting mainly because it screws up the eco-system, thereby affecting the fish population blah blah blah blah blah. You get the picture right? We take what we need to survive, and being the top species, we have the responsibility to keep the balance. Does that suck for the rest of the animal kingdom? Maybe, but I tend not to overthink things.

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    yes yes yes......you can dorothea...plsss....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    Brownprose, I wouldn't put slavery in the same sentence as tradition. That word is so vague and can be so many things, that is not an appropriate thing to make an example of, kung i-compare gani nimo sa whale-hunting. What specific period, and what particular form of slavery are you talking about?

    Let's save the whales!
    You know Dorothea, part of the strong reasons why they justify whale hunting is because it's part of culture/tradition of whale-eating communities in Japan or in some parts of Europe. What I'm saying is... you can't use tradition or culture to justify the killing. To kill whales for such reasons is just too lame when we can always get rid of that tradition as we did with slavery which was a long-held tradition in the past (I should know because I'm also a sociologist ). Hope you get my point clear.

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    ^diatabz, appropriate kaayo imong avatar ani nga estorya kay ga sige sila hisgot ug baboy. How would a dolphin's extinction affect humans? Us, dolphins and humans, have the same prey. If they disappear, more fish for us.

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    mao bitaw g bawal na karon.nag himo na sila ug balaod nga dile na pwede mu hunt ug dolphins... its not logic nga madala sa movie nga g tanaw..as what you had said they had been doing this for centuries and its true but now dile na pwede ron kay extinct na sila specially some species of whales and dolphins. before commenting on other people try not to be poignant on others. ok. respect is what you should learn before posting such comments esp. as a C.I.A you should display and set a good example about it. its not how little some of the people know about but its how they know right now regarding killing such creatures. hope other members and moderators control comments that affects moral fiber. thanx....

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    Quote Originally Posted by diatabz View Post
    @ The_Child
    I saw a video on the web of this guy half eaten by a shark. Poor fellow must've been scared enough to crap his pants.
    Pardon me for saying this but I couldn't help but realize something odd here--you said he was "half-eaten", so I'm assuming only the upper half of his body remained intact--yet he still actually possessed an anus (or pants) to crap out (or into) of? *hysterical laughter*

    -RODION

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