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    asa? asa? asa?!

    asa sa BIBLIYA giingon nga EARTH is HELL? kinahanglan naa sa BIBLE.

    kung wala sa BIBLE, MALI!!!!

    (hehehe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    asa? asa? asa?!

    asa sa BIBLIYA giingon nga EARTH is HELL? kinahanglan naa sa BIBLE.

    kung wala sa BIBLE, MALI!!!!

    (hehehe)
    i know some people who would say this... he he...
    (visit them at spirituality & occult)

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    Indeed Earth is the dark place to live with but it doesn't mean Earth is Hell.

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    yes i beliv so

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    The BIBLE is not a reliable source. The Books of the BIBLE we know of today have their own inaccuracies and flaws. All apocryphal texts have undergone re-formatting. I am speaking of the missing books.

    Index of missing:

    1. Pseudo-Jesus apocrypha

    1.1 The Epistles of Jesus to Abgarus
    2. Pseudo-apostolic (general) apocrypha

    2.1 Teachings of the Twelve Apostles (Didache)
    2.2 Epistle of the Apostles

    3. Pseudo-apostolic (specific - by Apostle) apocrypha

    3.1 - Andrew -

    3.1.1 Acts of Andrew
    3.1.2 Acts of Andrew and Matthias*

    3.2 - Barnabas -

    3.2.1 Acts of Barnabas*
    3.2.2 Epistle of Barnabas
    3.2.3 Gospel of Barnabas

    3.3 - Bartholomew -

    3.3.1 Gospel of Bartholomew
    3.3.2 Martyrdom of Bartholomew*

    3.4 - James -

    3.4.1 Apocryphon of James
    3.4.2 Book of James (protevangelium)
    3.4.3 First Apocalypse of James
    3.4.4 Second Apocalypse of James

    3.5 - John -

    3.5.1 Acts of John
    3.5.2 Acts of John the Theologian*
    3.5.3 Apocryphon of John (long version)
    3.5.4 Book of John the Evangelist
    3.5.5 Revelation of John the Theologian*

    3.6 - Mark -

    3.6.1 Secret Gospel of Mark

    3.7 - Matthew -

    3.7.1 Acts and Martyrdom of St. Matthew the Apostle*
    3.7.2 The Martyrdom of Matthew

    3.8 - Nicodemus -

    3.8.1 Gospel (Acts) of Nicodemus (aka The Acts of Pontius Pilate)

    3.9 - Peter -

    3.9.1 Acts of Peter
    3.9.2 Acts of Peter and Andrew
    3.9.3 Apocalypse of Peter - version 1
    3.9.4 Apocalypse of Peter - version 2
    3.9.5 Gospel of Peter
    3.9.6 Letter of Peter to Philip

    3.10 - Philip -

    3.10.1 Acts of Philip
    3.10.2 Gospel of Philip

    3.11 - Thaddeus -

    3.11.1 Acts of Thaddeus (Epistles of Pontius Pilate)*
    3.11.2 Teaching of Thaddeus

    3.12 - Thomas -

    3.12.1 Acts of Thomas
    3.12.2 Apocalypse of Thomas
    3.12.3 Book of Thomas the Contender
    3.12.4 Consumation of Thomas
    3.12.5 Gospel of Thomas

    4. Pseudo-Pauline apocrypha

    4.1 3 Corinthians
    4.2 Acts 29
    4.3 Acts of Paul
    4.4 Acts of Paul and Thecla
    4.5 Acts of Peter and Paul*
    4.6 Acts of Xanthippe and Polyxena
    4.7 Apocalypse of Paul
    4.8 Apocalypse of Paul - other version
    4.9 Epistle to the Laodiceans
    4.10 Revelation of Paul*
    4.11 Paul and Seneca

    5. Infancy Gospels apocrypha

    5.1 Arabic Infancy Gospel
    5.2 First Infancy Gospel of Jesus Christ
    5.3 Infancy Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew
    5.4 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Greek A
    5.5 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Greek B
    5.6 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Latin

    6. Relatives of Jesus apocrypha

    6.1 Gospel of Mary
    6.2 Gospel of the Nativity of Mary
    6.3 Book of John concerning the dormition of Mary (transitus marić)*
    6.4 History of Joseph the Carpenter*
    6.5 Narrative of Joseph of Arimathaea

    7. Sub-canonical (disputed canon) apocrypha

    7.1 Shepherd of Hermas
    7.2 II Clement
    7.3 Diatession
    7.4 Gospel of the Lord (Marcion)

    8. Other significant Epistles and pseudomynous writings and apocrypha

    8.1 I Clement
    8.2 Avenging of the Saviour
    8,3 Epistles of Pontius Pilate
    8.4 Letter of Aristeas
    8.5 Sentences of the Sextus
    8.6 Alexandrians
    8.7 Revelations of Stephen
    8.8 Muratonian Canon (fragment)

    9. Fragments of lost apocryphal books

    9.1 Gospel of the Ebionites
    9.2 Gospel of the Egyptians
    9.3 Egerton Gospel (Egerton Papyrus 2)*
    9.4 Gospel of the Hebrews
    9.5 Traditions of Mattias
    9.6 Gospel of the Nazaraeans
    9.7 Preaching of Peter

    10. Apostolic Constitutions (Didascalia Apostolorum)

    10.1 Book 1
    10.2 Book 2
    10.3 Book 3
    10.4 Book 4
    10.5 Book 5
    10.6 Book 6
    10.7 Book 7
    10.8 Book 8

    11. Psuedo-Sibylline Oracles

    11.0 Preface
    11.1 Chapter I
    11.2 Chapter II
    11.3 Chapter III
    11.4 Chapter IV
    11.5 Chapter V
    11.6 Chapter VI
    11.7 Chapter VII
    11.8 Chapter VIII
    11.9 Chapter XI
    11.10 Chapter XII
    11.11 Chapter XIII
    11.12 Chapter XIV
    11.13 Appendices - Fragments



    Other Books:

    1. The Book of the Wars of the Lord: We can read about this book in (Bible) Numbers 21:14.

    2. The Book of Jasher: We read about this book in Joshua 10:13. This book is also mentioned in II Samuel, 1:18.

    3. Three books of Solomon: The first book contained one thousand and five Psalms, the second described the history of creation, and the thirdconsisted of three thousand Proverbs. This book is mentioned in I Kings 4:32.

    4. The Book of Manners of the Kingdom: We find the mention of this missing book in I Samuel 10:25.

    5. The History of Samuel the Seer: (6) The History of Prophet Nathan & (7) The Book of Gad the Seer: These three missing books (5, 6, & 7) are mentioned in I Chronicles 29:29.

    8. The Book of Shemiah, the Prophet: (9) The Book of Iddo, the Seer: Both (8 & 9) books are mentioned in II Chronicles 12:15.

    10. The Prophecy of Ahijah (11) The Visions of Iddo, the Seer: These two books (10 & 11) are mentioned in II Chronicles 9:29. The books of Iddo and Nathan are also mentioned in this verse.

    12. The Book of Jehu, the son of Hanani: This book is mentioned in II Chronicles 20:24.

    13. The Book of Isaiah, the Prophet: This book consisted of complete accounts of Uzziah. It is mentioned in II Chronicles 26:22.

    14. The Book of Visions of Isaiah: This lost book contained the complete accounts of Hezekiah and is mentioned in II Chronicles 32:32.

    15. The Lamentation of Jeremiah: This lost book consisted of Jeremiah’s lamentation for Josiah, and is described in II Chronicles 35:25.

    16. The Book of Chronicles: This missing book is mentioned in Nehemiah 12:23. (This book is not included in the present books. This is another book, which does not exist today)

    17. The Book of Covenant of Moses: This missing book is mentioned in Exodus 24:7.

    18. The Book of the Acts of Solomon: We find the mention of this book in I Kings 11:14.


    Books rejected by the Catholic Religion:

    1. First and Second Esdras
    2. Prayer of Manasses
    3. Susanna*


    *A reader says: "Susanna is in the Roman Catholic canon. It is Daniel 13."


    Why the books were not included:The word "apocryphal" (ἀπόκρυφος) was first applied, in a positive sense, to writings which were kept secret because they were the vehicles of esoteric knowledge considered too profound or too sacred to be disclosed to anyone other than the initiated. It is used in this sense to describe A Holy and Secret Book of Moses, called Eighth, or Holy (Μωυσέως ἱερὰ βίβλος ἀπόκρυφος ἐπικαλούμενη ὀγδόη ἢ ἁγία), a text taken from a Leiden papyrus of the third or fourth century AD, but which may be as old as the first century. In a similar vein, the disciples of the Gnostic Prodicus boasted that they possessed the secret (ἀπόκρυφα) books of Zoroaster. The term in general enjoyed high consideration among the Gnostics (see Acts of Thomas, 10, 27, 44)[1].
    The Unfair Assumption:


    In order for this argument to hold water, a basic assumption is made. That is that all books mentioned in the Bible should be part of the Bible. Massimo Franceschini, an Italian convert to Mormonism, has suggested that the biblical text is more than sixty-five percent incomplete, due, in part, to the “lost books” cited within the Bible itself (Franceschini, 2002).


    Some additional writings, referenced in the Old Testament
    and New Testament, can be added to the list:

    Book of the Covenant mentioned in Exodus 24:7; et al.
    The Chronicles of the Kings of Media and Persia mentioned in Esther 10:2
    Book by Samuel mentioned in 1 Samuel 10:25
    Laments for Josiah mentioned in 2 Chronicles 35:25
    Chronicles of King David mentioned in 1 Chronicles 27:24
    Paul’s letter to the Laodiceans mentioned in Colossians 4:16
    Paul’s previous Corinthian letter mentioned in1 Corinthians 5:9




    References:
    The Lost Books of the Bible - The Missing Parts of the King James Bible
    Mythology by Edith Hamilton
    Missing books of the Bible, where are they and why are they missing?
    Apocrypha: New Testament Apocrypha, the missing books of the Bible
    Apocrypha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://www.concernedchristians.org/n...son_bible7.php
    Apologetics Press - Are There Lost Books of the Bible?
    Bruce, F.F. The Defense of the Gospel in the New Testament Bruce, F.F. The Canon of Scripture
    Christensen, Duane “Lost Books of the Bible,” Bible Review
    Lost Books by Franceschini, Massimo


    and lastly, the HOLY BIBLE itself...
    Last edited by cosplay; 07-31-2008 at 10:16 AM.

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    i dont believe earth is hell.. besides i dont believe too na ang hell is init na place... like most catholics believe.. na naa fire and satan has this FORK! hehehe...with sungay and buntot....hehehe....basta ang naa sa bible mao ra na ako tuohan.....i dont care if ture and bible or not.. basta kung unsa naa didto ..mao na...

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    i dont really have anything against them...
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    @blueleigh25

    yeah.. really... hahahha satanic fork and tail pa huh? very descriptive...
    Last edited by cosplay; 07-31-2008 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueleigh25 View Post
    i dont believe earth is hell.. besides i dont believe too na ang hell is init na place... like most catholics believe.. na naa fire and satan has this FORK! hehehe...with sungay and buntot....hehehe....basta ang naa sa bible mao ra na ako tuohan.....i dont care if ture and bible or not.. basta kung unsa naa didto ..mao na...
    dba ang naa sa bible hell is a lake of fire? u said u dont believe na init ang hell, but then den kung unsa naa sa bible mao imo tuohan? libog ko

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    nice observation angelfyre...

    libog pud ko...

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