All About the AFP: Issues and Information

[Freeza]

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@@@@@@ Mr. FK @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ news for you

everybody knows thiis crap heheehehe

but anyway i still maintain we need a strong leader like GMA

http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index....story_id=70001

CLAIMING that he was just "a hair away," one of five lawmakers accused of rebellion said incumbent Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo attended several meetings in connection with the plan to oust her predecessor Joseph Estrada and that he was willing to testify on this.
"I'm willing to testify that we met with groups, people close to Malacañang. I'm willing to prove that we did this and that," Bayan Muna Representative Teodoro Casiño said Monday. "We were just one hair away from then vice president Arroyo."

Another Bayan Muna Representative Satur Ocampo supported Casiño's statement.

Ocampo disclosed that sometime in November 2000, his group met with Arroyo at her residence in La Vista, Quezon City where they laid down their 20-point agenda should Arroyo take the place of Estrada.

He said among the proposals were the release of political prisoners and continuation of the peace process with the communist group.

A second meeting with Arroyo was held the following month in her




office at the Philippine International Convention Center (PICC), Ocampo said.

In a separate press briefing, Ocampo showed pictures of Arroyo with him and other militant personalities, and another picture of the President hand-in- hand with Anakpawis Representative Crispin Beltran
with the word "Oust" printed on a red streamer in the background.

He said the pictures were taken during the gatherings where they were plotting against Estrada.

"So if you trace back my alleged involvement on rebellion, then she [Arroyo] was part of it," Ocampo pointed out.

Beltran, along with Ocampo, Casiño, and Anakpawis Representative Rafael Mariano, and Gabriela Representative Liza Maza had been charged with rebellion for allegedly conspiring with leftist and rightist groups to remove the President.

Casiño said that during those meetings mentioned by Ocampo, the President was allegedly receptive about the ouster plan against Estrada and did not object to it as it was being hatched.

He also pointed out that it was Arroyo, not their group, who had been talking to the military.

It was the withdrawal of support by the Armed Forces of the Philippines under the leadership of its then chief Angelo Reyes that sparked a second popular uprising against Estrada in 2001.

Ocampo and Casiño lamented how the present government seemed to forget the events that happened five years ago but remembered offenses they committed 14 years ago.

"This is exactly what we did before. But how come they call it now rebellion?" Casino said.

"They find it difficult to charge us with rebellion because the same elements were used to overthrow the Estrada government that put her into power," Ocampo said.

"So I think we'll get over this. They can't prove our involvement in rebellion," he added.

As Congress is set to go on break for the Lenten season on April 7, the lawmakers are still in the dark on whether they will remain under the custody of the House of Representatives.

Ocampo said there was an impression that their "protective custody" would only last while Congress was in session.

But he said if there was no other choice but to surrender themselves to the police, then they would not resist any arrest.

"We might get arrested once Congress goes on break. I think it would be untenable that we will be staying here after recess," Casiño said.

"The situation will be different. So either we get arrested or we go out but definitely I think April 7 is the day that we should have to resolve," he added.

[FK]

@Freeza: yup I read that a while ago.

ironic kaau... the current admin is charging people of things that they have done before. tsk... tsk... tsk...

[foxtrot]

The AFP is an active element of the society. It can't be isolated from the everyday affairs of the country. Just like anyone of us, they are witnesses to the present exciting times in RP! ... but unlike the majority of us, they can't join rallies for when they have chosen to be members of the military, they have forfeited some of their freedom.

I don't think the reminder was necessary as well as the plan of the opposition to talk to them. Individually by now they have already their own assessment of the situation, their own convictions, their own belief who is right or wrong ...luckily they were trained to act collectively and not individually. I believe in what they are doing now - letting the politcians try to solve their own mess!

[mosimos]

Senga tells troops not to be used by politicians? Ngano karon pa.

Cmon Senga, how would you explain Esperon, Kyamko and Habacon's involvement last election. Di ba thats politicking. Siguro dapat mo resign ni si Senga kay wa man ni kredibilidad mo istorya ani. Sila ra may naigo sa ilang tari'.

[FK]

@Freeza: in relation sa imong gi post.

ang depensa ni Mike Defensor...
http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index....story_id=70094

what a bunch of double standard. planning to throw the government before was legal but now no more?

[Gwynhuever]

@FK....nawagtang na man ko sa passing ani nga mga panghitabo bro...wa na ko mosubay pero na curious lang ko karon ....naa lang ko question...na unsa na man tong Magdalo soldiers nga na court martial gani? Preso gihapon sila? Wa makig dialouge si GMA nila nga morag daghan man kaayo to sila ug issues?

[tolstoi]

..nothing is wrong with preventing to overthrow an EFFECTIVE LEADER

[FK]

..nothing is wrong with preventing to overthrow an EFFECTIVE LEADER

again implementing double standard and biases.

[tolstoi]

..nothing is wrong with preventing to overthrow an EFFECTIVE LEADER

again implementing double standard and biases.

asa naman sad ko na double standard/bias diha bai?...c ERAP epiktibo diay to para nimo?

[Freeza]

@Freeza:Â* in relation sa imong gi post.

ang depensa ni Mike Defensor...
http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index....story_id=70094

what a bunch of double standard. Â* planning to throw the government before was legal but now no more?

of course it his job that is to be expected

were not going to discuss political moralÂ* righteousness s**t here hehehehe erap is weak just plain simple he deserves his fateÂ* ........... for the AFP problem GMA must stop these edsa mutiny scourge once and for all we have a new cardinal rosales who knows what the chruch should do in a political problem we have a good number of maases who are now awaken from years of public conditioning of these lame edsa ideals which infact a pestilence for a democracy.....we have number of people who now believe that following the book is the best thing to do in a situation like now we have in the country.