uniting esoteric groups in the Philippines

[LightBearer]

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Thank you for clarifying some things for us. You are right when you said that what we are going to form is an ALLIANCE and not an organization.

The propose ALLIANCE will be a good place were we can discuss our differences and formulate a code of ethics that is mutually beneficial to all those who wish to joined the Alliance.

The Alliance can also monitor the members' activities. no not spying on them but monitor their behavior kung badlongon ba ni nga member or naa ba ni siyay crime nga nabuhat while naa siya sa osa ka esoteric community. in that way we can prevent habitual offenders, nya malikayan nato og accept og badlongon nga member. knock on woods kay naa unyay members nga badlongon kaayo then nihawa nya nilipat sa laing esoteric group then gidawat not knowing nga nagpabadlong diay ni sa lain nga community. right, di ba?

so para nako this is good.

[TheDarkLord]

all wonderful ideas Alchemist.. I see your on the same wavelength as we are one.. just one inquiry

if this is going to be a delegation style systems.. what of those circles that do not get along with each other? lets say group a and b were both invited but all know these 2 groups are bitter rivals?

inputs awaited
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[TheDarkLord]

back to it.. for now it sounds UN type to me.. which is good.so long as you carefully monitor who is represented there.

there are several groups for example in manila who would do nothing but ruin such a gathering of liked minds due to the several stated reasons by the alchemist that we should avoid.. invitation to such an event should be very carefully given.

my advice.. ask the history of the groups, what have they done? who do they cater to? are they in existence to help serve the ppl or to just be like street gangs of areas claiming esoteric dominance to territory..

that be my 2 cents

[iczyes]

I like what's happening here...
It starts with the seed and in due time, it will bear fruit!

Alchemist, we have been through a lot of controversies, witchwars, issues in our previous orgs
And I'm pretty sure there are such kinds of ego-ic struggles within in each grp, practice, coven etc.
Much more, to esoteric grps within a certain locality, region, country...
It is but a reflection of the human tendency to believe to the ILLUSION that we are SEPARATE entities
We forget our interconnectedness with each other
I know that whatever practice or path one may be..we all boil down to the basics of ENERGY SYSTEM
It is this interconnectedness in the same pool of ENERGY that makes magick work!
Just like our previous orgs, we separate then reunite, die and undergo rebirth
This is but a normal cycle of life..any mage are aware of it...
but somehow we seem to forget this
So expect that in any group or alliance, this may happen.
At the end of the day, it is re-Membering that we are all one
which makes ego get out of the way and for love, forgiveness and compassion to prevail

Human tendency of people to set aside their differences when under a common foe
so i guess, when the time comes, this unity or alliance we speak...will be inevitable
but why do we wait for such to happen when we could start right now?

In my opinion, Arcanum was not a failure
Why? Because inspite of the dream not taking longterm form..the spirit of it...
the intent is its legacy...coz we wont be talking abt this
weren't not for the "seed of thought" Arcanum contributed to the cosmos
Remember bane, we have talked abt this a long time ago
We share the same dream even though we have different perspectives on how it shld be done
What mages can do for now is palaguin this "seed" into that which will manifest and bear fruit.

Happy new Year to all!

[bane]

I think the same plan as before could work, if we have an alliance that stays autonomous from each other under a single council. I am here in Davao and i will start a group just like what we did in Iloilo... I hope I can find real seekers here...

[LightBearer]

Let's keep the ball rolling then...

[The Alchemist]

@TheDarkLord: precisely! but isn't the purpose of this Alliance the gathering of minds? if group a and group b are at odds with each other for some personal reason, then why shouldn't the Alliance be a venue for their reconciliation or truce?

but still we should be careful. there are groups who are renegades in the field. who do things simply because it is a fad or something they feel gives them one up over others. and these groups should be counseled as to right action. and if they do not act accordingly, we should let them go and let them be. sometimes, we must make them realize that pigs can sometimes be cooked in their own fat. no need to formulate rules of reward and punishment for errant groups, their karma will catch up in due time. they are responsible for their own evolution in this world, they have lessons to learn and they should buckle up.

but the question is, who will choose which group will be represented? which group will be invited? i suggest that an initial meeting be called. when a group is ready to check this out, they will find a way to meet in Alliance. i suggest the venue be Cebu of course. as our Master said, Cebu is the heart of the Philippines, if we bring light in Cebu, the whole country will be lit.

@bane: good luck on your search for seekers in Davao. there are many, and as with any province, they will be colored by their own culture. my counsel-act as a sieve. sort out the bigger rocks and separate those who are meant to stay on the path, the finer sand will show themselves to be what they are. practice always the path of light, and always instill in them that the path is a path of the heart..not of the mind. but always remember that the Universe has a way of course-correcting. those who are meant to become mystics, will become mystics whether they like it or not. one way or another, they will be given a road to follow, signs to heed, and a door to open them to our world.

@iczyes: i agree completely. no questions asked. YOU brought me the SEED, i only sowed it. i am but the messenger. hehehe...

@LightBearer: i hope we could meet sometime. so that we can formulate a plan as to how to get this rolling. then we can relay it to our respective groups. are you a member of any esoteric group?

a CODE OF ETHICS would be good. a bunch of IDEALS for which the Alliance will stand for is also a good thing. there would be no Constitution and By-laws for this Alliance. God forbid this will become another umbrella group.

my suggestion: let us not make this into a physical organization. but something that will always be ethereal. in that way, its purpose will not be lost in a maze of organizational mayhem. there would be no council or elders..only the Code of Ethics stands as our symbol of Unity. those of us who will represent a group will monitor ourselves from within, and also keep our eyes open for any transgression done by our allied groups. always, the mark of true counsel is compassion, not punishment. if the erring group still does not correct their ways, they will have to let go, and we will let them be.

to all:

if you noticed, disasters have been happening a lot more frequently to date. we, on our part, have been doing what we can to avert these disasters. with enough power, we can stop Mayon from blowing up. as we did before when the next super typhoon after Ondoy ALMOST hit the country but veered away to China.

for those who are into Philippine folk magic/paganism, petition the goddess Magayon. i did this already...as we did the last time she almost erupted. my former coven did an earth ritual and Mayon went back to sleep. now she threatens to erupt again, and we should do everything we can to radiate light,protection and peace to people living near the volcano.

elections are coming up, and darkness generated by politicians is threatening to cover the Philippines again. we of the light must gather our forces to overcome it. we can only banish shadows by lighting a candle. and if we have enough candles, the darkness will never win. already. murders of political motive are threatening to override order in the country, cheating is rampant, lies are told. let us all do our best to let the Divine work its will that a rightful leader will emerge at the end of the day.

good luck to us in this endeavor, may the Light shine upon us all. so mote it be.

[TheDarkLord]

im all for this.. so long as we focus on Quality.. Not Quantity..

We all know what happened when a certain TV personality go to Cebu, and we also know what happened when people joined such allliances just for prestige and recognition..

I quite frankly get tired of hearing people say "im the grand pumba of Torroktok (Fictional place) Manila. you all should respect my domain..

My take is. if a person is gonna say crap like that.. atleast show to the world that said places are prospering under you so called DOMAIN

another pet peeve of mine is say for example I speak for THIS sector of the occult in this country. Be it Yoga, wicca, or hermetics.. etc

If ur gonna say things like that... be sure that all in your denomination recognize you as an elder.. if not. just speak for yourself

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ps. agreed with this plan. just ranting previous experiences.

[TheDarkLord]

@Alchemist: Cebu as a venue is fine for some but not for all... However I do see that only those who take it DEAD seriously will find means and ways of making it there... Thus continuing the filtering process hehehe

[LightBearer]

let set a date then...hehe