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  1. #551

    OT: pasaylua ko kay pobre raman ko.. sa ako nabantayan sa sige nako ug basa ani nga thread, puros hambog raman ako nakita ug lalis.. wa man tay makat-unan.. ako pa ninyo, ayaw namu sige lalis kay wa man moy padulungan.. kabalo ko na wa jud nagsulti ug tinuod ang mga tao labaw na kato mga negosyante kuno kay puros hangin ra ako na bantayan.. kung datu jud mu nga tinuod dili mu maghinilas.. pasaylu-i lang kay pobre rako.. kabalo ko wa ko ryt na musulti kay pobre rako.. kung mag hatag palang mu ug mga pama agi unsaon pag datu kaysa mag away ug mag hinilasay na daghan ug negosyo.. matabangan pami mga pobre parehas nako..

  2. #552
    Quote Originally Posted by ryant View Post
    OT: pasaylua ko kay pobre raman ko.. sa ako nabantayan sa sige nako ug basa ani nga thread, puros hambog raman ako nakita ug lalis.. wa man tay makat-unan.. ako pa ninyo, ayaw namu sige lalis kay wa man moy padulungan.. kabalo ko na wa jud nagsulti ug tinuod ang mga tao labaw na kato mga negosyante kuno kay puros hangin ra ako na bantayan.. kung datu jud mu nga tinuod dili mu maghinilas.. pasaylu-i lang kay pobre rako.. kabalo ko wa ko ryt na musulti kay pobre rako.. kung mag hatag palang mu ug mga pama agi unsaon pag datu kaysa mag away ug mag hinilasay na daghan ug negosyo.. matabangan pami mga pobre parehas nako..
    Bai, you've made the most sense in this thread so far! Working stiff, employee, self-employed, big time businessman, does it really matter that much? As long as you are in gainful employment and a positively contributing member to the betterment of society (and not just yourself) you deserve a pat in the back. Never mind those who belittle your efforts or your status. The dignity of honest labor is way beyond the mere contempt of little minds.

    In as much as I'd like to give the TS the benefit of the doubt, I cannot help but think that the TS harbors an unhealthy degree of contempt for call center employees. There cannot be a proper discussion over a topic that is already skewed and skewered from the beginning. And then it just goes downhill from there. peace out!

  3. #553
    These days, more of us are finding we have to work long hours to keep the boss happy. And if we try to leave on time, we are accused of clockwatching - and we know there are plenty of people who will be too happy to step into our shoes. But is it worth busting a gut, just to put extra money in someone else's pocket? If we're honest, most of us dream of financial freedom and for many, a successful business is the only way we are likely to achieve it.
    Last edited by emb_ventures; 11-27-2009 at 05:23 AM.

  4. #554
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    daghan dire typical employee mentality... ok ra man nah.. but going into business,, you should change that...

    any business is potentially better than any job (except being president of the phils)..

    ang increase sa income sa trabahante thru paycheck kay +2, +3, +5, increments lang..

    sa business kay x2, x3, x5, exponential..

    sa business pud.. makatabang ka sa imo kababayan, by employing them, giving them an honest income, and mka provide pa jud ka products sa community..
    add lang nako ha....Money isn't the only important thing in life and what's the point of earning it if you don't have the chance to enjoy it? Work may play a significant role in our definition of who we are, but it certainly shouldn't be all that we are. starting up a business is very time-consuming, the ultimate goal is to create enough recurring income to give ourselves more free time. This is not possible in a job, except for a very fortunate few. You may well want to stop commuting for hours every week , followed by a ride on the bus part of your daily routine? Bad enough first thing in the morning, but then you have to repeat the process after a busy day, when you just want to get home and have a long soak in the bath. This is stressful at the best of times, but add traffic jams, bad weather ug uban pa ....and this is enough to exhaust anyone before they have even started work. Get a life beyond the office....

  5. #555
    Quote Originally Posted by emb_ventures View Post
    add lang nako ha....Money isn't the only important thing in life and what's the point of earning it if you don't have the chance to enjoy it? Work may play a significant role in our definition of who we are, but it certainly shouldn't be all that we are. starting up a business is very time-consuming, the ultimate goal is to create enough recurring income to give ourselves more free time. This is not possible in a job, except for a very fortunate few. You may well want to stop commuting for hours every week , followed by a ride on the bus part of your daily routine? Bad enough first thing in the morning, but then you have to repeat the process after a busy day, when you just want to get home and have a long soak in the bath. This is stressful at the best of times, but add traffic jams, bad weather ug uban pa ....and this is enough to exhaust anyone before they have even started work. Get a life beyond the office....
    para nako time is more important than money.. pila lang ka years, ill meet my maker na.. dapat enjoy it to the fullest..

    and also i prefer to be close to my children while they go up.. if i were busy in my job (or self employed sa business), murag dili ko kanunay naa para nila...

    nindot pud wui nga maski mag bakasyon2x ko outside the phils, money still comes into my account.. thats what i call freedom..

  6. #556
    all i can say is, everything depends on your personal truth, and with the skills u have developed all these years. Some men have high IQ for business while some are better employees than being a businessman. Business is the only thing that can greatly free a person from striving so much for money. I agree. But, finding the right business, finding ways to make it gorw and sustain its growth are the hardest details most people can't find. Why force yourself to be a businessman when obviously you don't have the brains to crunch numbers, management, and development? Why not be a successful employee instead? If you are an employee, and you feel that its not enough for you, why not try to venture in business? But not everyone can be successful, even no matter how hard you try... Like what Donald Trump said, there is a certain luck in business. If you are happy and contented (even if you're just settling), then thats great for you. If you're earning good money as an employee and yet you're still unsatisfied, then my friend i believe you are a businessman....or one greedy person.

  7. #557
    greed is good.. if you know how to manage it.. it can be both creative and destructive...

    agree ko wid the guy above.. ayaw jud mo sulod sa negosyo juz because cool ang title sa businessman.. kung dili ninu kaya ang pressure.. mas maau ayaw nlang...

    going into business is like going into a warzone

  8. #558
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    greed is good.. if you know how to manage it.. it can be both creative and destructive...

    agree ko wid the guy above.. ayaw jud mo sulod sa negosyo juz because cool ang title sa businessman.. kung dili ninu kaya ang pressure.. mas maau ayaw nlang...

    going into business is like going into a warzone
    Dili sad cguru maayo ang greed. Kung daghan naka ug kwarta butang dayon charity pareho ni Warren Buffet. Mao na akong goal. Kay kanang greed mao sad nay kamatyan sa mga tao kay mag ilog. Pareho ni Warren Buffet ba na tanan niya assets inig kamatay niya kay gamay ra ma punta sa iyang anak tapos ang uban ibalik sa society.
    Last edited by lorenzoleo; 11-27-2009 at 07:15 PM.

  9. #559
    Quote Originally Posted by lorenzoleo View Post
    Dili sad cguru maayo ang greed. Kung daghan naka ug kwarta butang dayon charity pareho ni Warren Buffet. Mao na akong goal. Kay kanang greed mao sad nay kamatyan sa mga tao kay mag ilog. Pareho ni Warren Buffet ba na tanan niya assets inig kamatay niya kay gamay ra ma punta sa iyang anak tapos ang uban ibalik sa society.
    i think what you mean is destructive greed.. constructive greed is motivates you to work hard and creatively, for the purpose of improving your life or of others.. kanang desctructive greed can kill you at an early age,, most commonly thru cardiac arrest.. hehehe

    para nako kanang maningkamot para mka nindot og balay.sakyanan, is constructive greed, you want a good life.. pero the moment mo compare nka sa lain, to the point you want excesses.. thats destructive...

    same hir... di ko gusto magbilin dako sa ako children.. mag away na hinoon.. ang ako lang is to train them so they will be capable or even more capable than me in acquiring wealth... ang kwarta mawala ra.. wisdom and knowledge, you bring it to the grave...

  10. #560
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    i think what you mean is destructive greed.. constructive greed is motivates you to work hard and creatively, for the purpose of improving your life or of others.. kanang desctructive greed can kill you at an early age,, most commonly thru cardiac arrest.. hehehe

    para nako kanang maningkamot para mka nindot og balay.sakyanan, is constructive greed, you want a good life.. pero the moment mo compare nka sa lain, to the point you want excesses.. thats destructive...

    same hir... di ko gusto magbilin dako sa ako children.. mag away na hinoon.. ang ako lang is to train them so they will be capable or even more capable than me in acquiring wealth... ang kwarta mawala ra.. wisdom and knowledge, you bring it to the grave...

    Hehehe! Ma generalize man gud ang greed as negative. Hehehe! Naa diay klase2x na greed? Hekhekhek!

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