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    Men, women, istoryans ... lend me your ears (and your eyes)! Walang kai-kaibigan! Walang kapit-kapitbahay! Ang ato lang nga maluwas ta! Sakto ba ang mga pasangil nga gihandos niining tawhana?
    Sakto man. ;b And what As if sigurado mo nga maluwas ang mga devout RCFD's nga maluwas sila... ;b

    I need not reiterate they are in the previous pages if not, in a certain URL I copy paste from time to time....

    I may have lied many times in my life but in this discussion I have never lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Bunal
    Mosimos, Manny, Dacs

    you are a masters of Contrapositives.

    You also adhere to Argumentum Ad Baculum and Argumentum Ad Verecundiam. And that is your logic.

    Dacs, Sir

    eyebol nya ta sa TC aha man ka second floor sa ECE sa? ;-b hehehe.... bitaw sige ko'g duaw sa TC.
    Whoa, you guy taka a beating from the three of us and then accuse us of being fallacious? Come on, man. You can do better than that. Stick to the issues or you are just trying to get attention.

  3. #553

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    Of course the last Book of Scripture wasn't written when Paul wrote his last epistle to young Timothy...... but don't you see? Even then John attested that what was written contained enough information for people to know they have Eternal Life (1 Jn 5: 13, see also Jn 20: 31)

    How was apostolic tradition and instructions usually passed on if it was done by word of mouth? (1 Thes. 5: 27 )

    But why does Bishop Morrow say that The Scriptures do not contain all the necessary truths about our salvation in his book "My Catholic Faith"? when the apostles have mentioned otherwise?

    There is no other Truth more important than that of Eternal Life in the name of Jesus Christ yet the pharisaical clergy undermines the authority of the apostles.

    http://onemediator.4t.com/whats_new.html

    *As for 2nd Peter, in other text it says from a prophet's personal interpretation that no Scripture was brought about.... Yet why has Rome modified and distorted teachings in the Scriptures such as the Lord's Supper? They do it to their own destruction.

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    Kini ba mga baptist ug born again ba? Unsa man diay?

    Pagsulat diay nila ni Matthew, Mark, Luke ug John, GIDIKTAHAN diya to sila sa Ginoo? I mean do they underrgo in a trance while writing it or they are merely inspired by the Holy Spirit.

    Kay kung na trance sila while writing then we could say nga entirely WORD OF GOD gyud ang Bible and we have no choice but to interpret it literally.

    However, the contents of the Bible did not indicate that they are in a trance. They ar conscious.

    Mao na ang Bible. Naay Divine ug naa say human factor. mao na mag interpret ta tanawon nato ang context. Ang style sa writing, ang events when siya nahisulat, and ang prevailing culture adtong panahona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Bunal
    Of course the last Book of Scripture wasn't written when Paul wrote his last epistle to young Timothy...... but don't you see? Even then John attested that what was written contained enough information for people to know they have Eternal Life (1 Jn 5: 13, see also Jn 20: 31)
    In other words, the REST of the Bible is UNNECESSARY for salvation.

    But why does Bishop Morrow say that The Scriptures do not contain all the necessary truths about our salvation in his book "My Catholic Faith"? when the apostles have mentioned otherwise?
    For the same reasons that the REST of the Bible was written and compiled. It contains truths ABOUT salvation, not necessarily FOR personal salvation. As you claim, what was already written by the time of John's writings was sufficient FOR salvation, but the rest of the Bible was written anyway because this was necessary to transmit the other truths ABOUT salvation. Can't you tell the difference?

    Yet why has Rome modified and distorted teachings in the Scriptures such as the Lord's Supper? They do it to their own destruction.
    It HAS NOT. You have thus far failed to prove that premise. Every one of your personal interpretations against the Church have been shown to be without historical basis. Therefore you commit a logical falacy.

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    I think when someone takes the Bible "literally" they miss the point of the Bible. The Bible contains stories intended to show examples of how to live your life... you learn from them by thinking of how to apply them to your life, not by following them literally. it's more like a reference book than an instruction manual. Just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfg9000
    I think when someone takes the Bible "literally" they miss the point of the Bible. The Bible contains stories intended to show examples of how to live your life... you learn from them by thinking of how to apply them to your life, not by following them literally. it's more like a reference book than an instruction manual. Just my two cents.
    Thank you.

    Every two cents is important.

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    For the same reasons that the REST of the Bible was written and compiled. It contains truths ABOUT salvation, not necessarily FOR personal salvation. As you claim, what was already written by the time of John's writings was sufficient FOR salvation, but the rest of the Bible was written anyway because this was necessary to transmit the other truths ABOUT salvation. Can't you tell the difference?
    You are distorting the truth..... much like how the Roman church has to differentiate atonement from forgiveness....... or classifying sins as mortal and venial; much of these are done only to justify their man-made teachings and practices.

    No it was written so that it may be broadcasted to the churches (at that time) and to the rest of the world eventually the truth about how we may have Life in the name of Jesus Christ, the rest of the Scriptures chronicle events we need to know..... and when I say having Life in the name of Christ that includes ALL His teachings.

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    hala ka woi...


  10. #560

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    Babylon back in business, can I get a witness, every girl every man?
    Houston can you hear me, ground control can you feel me need permission to land!

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