Catholic Church has billions invested in BPI, Philex, San Miguel

[jumper_stage]

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ka nindot diay kung pari...dunay secret chicks, duna pay business....

[cobraKing]

wa nay time sila to focus sa ilang objective, mao bitaw ang priest single jud para maka concentrate..

unsa man diay ang ilahang objecttive

[tokidoki]

You may say that its not their primary job... but its also not their job to meddle in politics but they said they act because of their moral authority to do so.... are they not morally obligated to help the needy also seeing as they have the excess money to do it?

Bitaw, sige na balik2x ang uban diri na DILI DAW OBLIGASYON sa simbahan. Haller? Dili obligasyon? Then unsa man diay na ilang apil2x anang butang na WALA SILA LABOT? Halos tanan nalang issue MORAL OBLIGATION nila. hmmmmm??

I reiterate again to certain individuals, do not speak on behalf of your priests because their actions and their goals contradict your reasoning.

[tokidoki]

^^ Gusto lagi nila zerohon usa ang kwarta sa simbahan..
Baligya tanang assets/investments. Para tabla na.. LOL!

bro, ang bata na masakiton nanginahanglan lang na labing dako 50k (unless heart operation siguro na na maabot ug 1MIL). 50k imo minuson sa sa 12Billion = zero? Sayop imung math, bro. You must mistake the church for another organization - like maybe the gov't.

[seven_segment]

great... so the church should just close its doors to the harsh realities our people are faced with.

Maypa diay ang mga politico... at least mang hatag ug hinabang... bisag ingon ka nga gi kurakot ang kwarta.... pareha ra man na' nga kwarta sa kawtawhan ang ilang gi balik. In that example mas naa pay mu balik sa pobre sa ilang kwarta sa gobyerno kaysa sa simbahan...

Mas grabe pa diay ang kurakot sa simbahan kaysa gobyerno... tsk tsk

kay nibutar diay ta sa ma-pari sa atong Parokya?

kay nagbayad diay tag buhis sa Simbahan?

kanang kuhaon jud sa imong payslip...income tax for the Church?

loslosa nimo do...imo man gi compare hinoon sa gobyerno...

kanang kwartaha...pila na ka centuries nadawat sa simbahan...

in fact, donations na tanan....

maybe sauna...kaniadtong problemado pang simbahan...

pero karon...kinsa may gipugos ug hatag....di parehas sa uban...pugon jud kag 10% sa imong income...

[redhorse1L]

bro, ang bata na masakiton nanginahanglan lang na labing dako 50k (unless heart operation siguro na na maabot ug 1MIL). 50k imo minuson sa sa 12Billion = zero? Sayop imung math, bro. You must mistake the church for another organization - like maybe the gov't.

Naa nasad ka anang 12Billion worth of asset sa BPI stocks.
If mo-crash neh atong stock market, say in 1 year time.. mo-balik ang BPI shares sa 30 level, pila naman ang worth ana? Take note, dili na CASH on hand but company shares.

Daghan jud manginahanglan ug kwarta nga pobre, bisan gali dili pobre.

How do you know wala mo-hatag ug portion ang simbahan through charities? Kay abi naay ni-public service sa TV, dapat ang simbahan dayon ang mo-gasto sa tanan medical needs? Pila kabuok imong makit-an sa TV nagkinahanglan ug operation / medical assistance. Do you think with your 5 Billion, wala nay magkasakit?

If 10 Billion worth can make the entire country free from illness and poverty, nganong dili man mangita ug paagi ang goberno ana?

Willing man gali sila mo-pagawas ug 3Billion para sa condom ug pills, kana pa nuon 10 billion nga wala nay gutmon ug masakiton.

[tokidoki]

How do you know wala mo-hatag ug portion ang simbahan through charities? Kay abi naay ni-public service sa TV, dapat ang simbahan dayon ang mo-gasto sa tanan medical needs? Pila kabuok imong makit-an sa TV nagkinahanglan ug operation / medical assistance. Do you think with your 5 Billion, wala nay magkasakit?

If 10 Billion worth can make the entire country free from illness and poverty, nganong dili man mangita ug paagi ang goberno ana?

Willing man gali sila mo-pagawas ug 3Billion para sa condom ug pills, kana pa nuon 10 billion nga wala nay gutmon ug masakiton.

Because I still see a lot poor people bro. Even if we leave the 12billion alone. Sa collections nila. kulang? And don't give me that crap na dili obligasyon sa simbahan. Bago ra naai nagmention na apil apilon sila sa mga issue.

Dili makaraise ang gov't anang kwartaha bai. If my eyes don't deceive me, the church is FAR, FAR richer than the Phils.

And if I'm also not mistaken, kanang 3billion sa gov't for the RH usually mosugod gyud na sa UTANG. For all we know that 3B doesn't exist. Muagi pa na ug budgeting, estimation, then BLOATING pa. Ang bloated price utangon. That is one of the arguments for Anti-RH peeps. The gov't is spending 3B it DOESN'T have as opposed to the money we KNOW the church has. Of course, we also know the church will NOT invest in the same project because ANTI-RH baya sila.

[istoryamember]

Isn't it a sin to ask more money even though you already have lots of it and don't intend to spend it on helping the poor?

mao ni ako question bro nga wala pa jud natubag sa mga nikontra nato Dili sila katubag. Basin sila pud mga hakog. Wa daw pinugsanay pero pagawas sila sa ilang sibot. Moingon pa jud and pari, "lets be generous".

OT: balita sa tv gahapon, naay catholic school nag ask ug spiritual fee as part of miscellaneous fee. WTF.

[Sand Man]

I find it ironic na mostly ang mga pinakamahal na educational institutions dri sa atong nasud nagsugod ilang ngan ug "Saint"

[Sand Man]

balita sa tv gahapon, naay catholic school nag ask ug spiritual fee as part of miscellaneous fee. WTF.

LOL ... Saw that, too.

Students ask for regulation of 'imaginative' miscellaneous fees in private colleges - Interaksyon.com

How depressing.