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[kamikaze426]

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round 3 is 10-7 for pacquiao.... 2 knockdowns.... and marquez didn't know where his corner was...

10-8 ra ang round 3, 1 knockdown ra ang g call sa ref. although marquez grabbing the rope should have been declared a knockdown but it was not called by the ref. So officially, 10-8 ra gyud kay 1 knowdown raman

[godsaint]

Thats the problem in boxing.they must improve their scoring system.A fighter may bounce up and continue to fight, but he may not be aware of what's happening--he may be fighting on instinct. There have been fighters who, as a result of being knocked down, have no recollection of events before and after the knockdown. Therefore, in order to properly reward the fighter scoring the knock down, the round should be scored 10 - 8. Occasionally there may be a round where the fighter who was knocked down was dominating the round before the knockdown and makes a strong recovery after the knockdown. He could narrow the gap 10 - 9. Much depends on the impact of the knockdown punch and the time elapsed. Remember---anything can happen in a fight! There are occasions where one fighter may totally dominate his opponent, having hurt him badly, and be on the verge of a knockout only to be the victim of a flash knockdown himself. Unhurt, he gets up, takes the mandatory 8-count, and continues to bombard his foe until the round ends. He could indeed win the round 10 - 9. But this scenario is extremely rare.

Another example of applying good scoring technique is when a fighter dominates a round but does not score a knockdown. He batters his opponent throughout the round, perhaps hurting him, staggering him, but not flooring him. Such a round should be scored 10 - 8. By scoring the round 10 - 8, the judge acknowledges the difference between a closer round scored 10 - 9, where there may have only been a slight advantage. The same theory applies to round where a boxer takes a "standing" 8-count. (If a standing 8-count is in effect during a fight, this allows the referee to stop the action when one of the fighters has been hurt, visibly shaken, but not knocked down, and give the fighter an 8 count.) If you recall, when we were discussing the various scoring systems, some of the disadvantages of the pure round system in scoring was that the fighter could not receive credit for rounds where he dominated, or scored knockdowns, placing him at a disadvantage when the final scores are computed. The 10 Point Must System provides an opportunity to properly identify the winner of the round as well as the margin by which he won the round. In the 10 Point Must System, by using the available criteria, even rounds should be eliminated. This is not to say that there are no even rounds. On a rare occasion an even round may be justified, but they are normally few and far between.

A knockdown on Marquez but we have seen domination and schooling of pacman in round 6 and 7.proper scoring it should also be a 10-8 round for marquez.

[thadzonline]

In many rulebooks, a knockdown is only called when anything other than your feet touches the canvas, in which case did not happen to Marquez in the apparent second fall. The only other time a ref will call a KO is when a boxer is deemed physically unable or unfit to continue a fight. JMM have shown he still was fit to continue and even went on to finish the fight on his feet and could have won the bout had he not fell in the 3rd

[sitek]

marquez won the fight... hadlok rematch si pacquiao business is finish na daw
pacquiao puti itlog

[ajol]

I checked the replay, Pacman could have punched more, but the bell sounded, so even if JMM wobbled, and didnt know where to go, only 1 KO was counted(last 19 secs) and the 2nd time obviously did not count, in boxing parlance, saved by the bell si JMM.

one or two more punch before the bell sounded.... that would have sealed it....

clearly pacquiao was waiting for the referee to call a knockdown.... next time pacquiao SHOULDN'T BE TOO KIND to wait for the referee....

clearly everyone saw it...... can marquez defend himself with one hand on the ropes..... his head was an open target....

[ajol]

In many rulebooks, a knockdown is only called when anything other than your feet touches the canvas, in which case did not happen to Marquez in the apparent second fall. The only other time a ref will call a KO is when a boxer is deemed physically unable or unfit to continue a fight. JMM have shown he still was fit to continue and even went on to finish the fight on his feet and could have won the bout had he not fell in the 3rd

Again Pacquiao waited for the referee to call a knockdown..... how can marquez defend himself with one hand grabbing the ropes Pacquiao would have punch him straight in the face..... there was time left for one or two more punches....

Pacquiao should SHOW NO MERCY it fights like this....

[ajol]

Thats the problem in boxing.they must improve their scoring system.A fighter may bounce up and continue to fight, but he may not be aware of what's happening--he may be fighting on instinct. There have been fighters who, as a result of being knocked down, have no recollection of events before and after the knockdown. Therefore, in order to properly reward the fighter scoring the knock down, the round should be scored 10 - 8. Occasionally there may be a round where the fighter who was knocked down was dominating the round before the knockdown and makes a strong recovery after the knockdown. He could narrow the gap 10 - 9. Much depends on the impact of the knockdown punch and the time elapsed. Remember---anything can happen in a fight! There are occasions where one fighter may totally dominate his opponent, having hurt him badly, and be on the verge of a knockout only to be the victim of a flash knockdown himself. Unhurt, he gets up, takes the mandatory 8-count, and continues to bombard his foe until the round ends. He could indeed win the round 10 - 9. But this scenario is extremely rare.

Another example of applying good scoring technique is when a fighter dominates a round but does not score a knockdown. He batters his opponent throughout the round, perhaps hurting him, staggering him, but not flooring him. Such a round should be scored 10 - 8. By scoring the round 10 - 8, the judge acknowledges the difference between a closer round scored 10 - 9, where there may have only been a slight advantage. The same theory applies to round where a boxer takes a "standing" 8-count. (If a standing 8-count is in effect during a fight, this allows the referee to stop the action when one of the fighters has been hurt, visibly shaken, but not knocked down, and give the fighter an 8 count.) If you recall, when we were discussing the various scoring systems, some of the disadvantages of the pure round system in scoring was that the fighter could not receive credit for rounds where he dominated, or scored knockdowns, placing him at a disadvantage when the final scores are computed. The 10 Point Must System provides an opportunity to properly identify the winner of the round as well as the margin by which he won the round. In the 10 Point Must System, by using the available criteria, even rounds should be eliminated. This is not to say that there are no even rounds. On a rare occasion an even round may be justified, but they are normally few and far between.

A knockdown on Marquez but we have seen domination and schooling of pacman in round 6 and 7.proper scoring it should also be a 10-8 round for marquez.

1 knockdown gives you 10-8

2 knockdowns gives you 10-7

so on and so forth....

[ajol]

Golden Boy offers Manny $6 million for third match

Sports
Golden Boy offers Manny $6 million for third match
By Abac Cordero
Monday, March 17, 2008

LAS VEGAS – Golden Boy Promotions has offered Manny Pacquiao $6 million for him to face Juan Manuel Marquez a third and last time.

“I’m putting $6 million on the table,� said Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer during the post-fight press conference that got a little out of control due to the building controversy following Pacquiao’s close win.

“Come on, Bob (Arum),� said Schaefer as Arum sat, watched and listened to the offer being made by his co-promoter in the highly successful “Unfinished Business� card at Mandalay Bay.

It was so successful that Arum reported a record $3.3 million in gate receipts, something which Arum said he has never experienced while handling a Pacquiao fight.

And calls for a third fight should start mounting by the day.

“There is no better fight out there than have these two guys fight again,� said Schaefer.

http://philstar.com/index.php?Sports...id=20080316121

Manny wouldn't be stupid to turn that offer down....

Let the voices be heard pro or cons.... Let the dusts settle


by offering $6 million for manny to fight again

I believe sunday's fight sold at least $20 million could be as high as $40 million.

[thadzonline]

Again Pacquiao waited for the referee to call a knockdown..... how can marquez defend himself with one hand grabbing the ropes Pacquiao would have punch him straight in the face..... there was time left for one or two more punches....

Pacquiao should SHOW NO MERCY it fights like this....

that is exactly what I am saying..Pacman lacked the killer's instincts..If he had that "show no mercy" attitude, he would have knocked JMM down a second time in the 3rd round..but then again without the KO, he could have lost that fight too

[ajol]

after the dusts have settled...

There will be a 3rd fight.... is inevitable.....

My theory was that 2nd fight was planned to be so close... because there will be more money for the 3rd fight....