God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

[josephdc]

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Only God can have such authority and perfection.

how do you know?
then again....who's god? which is which?
this is leaning towards absolutism. moral codes and fibers were not god copyrighted.

How does this lean towards absolutism?

I think all I'm saying is that the existence of objective moral values and duties gives us hints that God exists. If there is an objective basis for all our moral acts, that basis must be perfect since it's the standard for what's good and right. That basis can't be merely an abstract idea because then it wouldn't have the capacity to oblige us to do good and avoid evil. So it's plausible that this basis is not a thing but a person. Also, one of the definitions of God is that He is the greatest conceivable Being, so He, if the conception is true, must possess attributes that are perfect. Objective moral values and duties points to the existence of goodness and rightness, and these two are reflections of God's character.

[nikxz unÖ]

existence is a perfection...
something has to exist to be potent...

[josephdc]

Di ba we all have consciences? (Except maybe for a few whose consciences may be blurred or suppressed like those of serial murderers and rapists.)

I believe that our conscience is God's voice in our hearts. It can be likened to a compass which shows us the way. It guides us in our journey in life. If we violate the compass, we lose our ways. If we abide by it, we find the way and we find ourselves in the process. We become better human beings, more compassionate, loving and generous. In other words, we gradually perfect our nature. What is a perfect human being? My answer is that he or she is a person who is divine-like. I believe that that is what awaits us in our journey in life; if we follow the compass, we will arrive at a state of perfection. We will find our way to God, who Himself is perfect.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

you may be right.

[munzter666]

exist with faith? then what kind of FAITH?
then let me tell you that FAITH towards GOD has manifestation or in reality.
but those you've mention "for the record", is it reality?

PEace!

do you watch x-files? moulder and skully? did those 2 settle with faith trying to prove UFO's and the whatchamacallits? NO.

How does this lean towards absolutism?

I think all I'm saying is that the existence of objective moral values and duties gives us hints that God exists. If there is an objective basis for all our moral acts, that basis must be perfect since it's the standard for what's good and right. That basis can't be merely an abstract idea because then it wouldn't have the capacity to oblige us to do good and avoid evil. So it's plausible that this basis is not a thing but a person. Also, one of the definitions of God is that He is the greatest conceivable Being, so He, if the conception is true, must possess attributes that are perfect. Objective moral values and duties points to the existence of goodness and rightness, and these two are reflections of God's character.

objective morality or absolute morality...morality as prescribed by who/what? bible god is just one of many.

from an abstract idea....you came up with not a "thing" but a person? a he? anthropomorphism?

why is it only good things point to god anyway? if you consider him/her/it everything....good and bad/evil falls under one bracket, your god. right?

[nikxz unÖ]

why is it only good things point to god anyway? if you consider him/her/it everything....good and bad/evil falls under one bracket, your god. right?

just in one bracket.. :]

[regnauld]

Back to the topic:

Atheist's existence has not yet been disproven and it's still ok with me. What's the fuss?

[amingb]

Back to the topic:

Atheist's existence has not yet been disproven and it's still ok with me. What's the fuss?

Tinood bro, if there are athiest out der then they will not join in this spiritual forum.

[regnauld]

Tinood bro, if there are athiest out der then they will not join in this spiritual forum.

Very smart!

[etsirkoid]

What if by our persistence to prove that God doesn't exist, God will prove that we did not exist...
Imagine a headline that goes "Earth on the path of colliding w/ an asteriod the size of Mars in 1 hour"