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  1. #511

    Quote Originally Posted by FISHPEN View Post
    na ba gyud porgatoryo? asa sa biblia?
    wala.

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  2. #512
    Quote Originally Posted by noister View Post
    bro, sa ako na hibaw-an ang the book of Apocrypha was written after the book of Malachi. Time nga silent ang Ginoo for 300 or 600 years, until ni abot c Jesus Christ. that means ang the book of Apocrypha ge tang2x coz dili xa inspired sa Ginoo.
    15 Books na ang Apocyrpha gibuhat na siya mas earlier pa sa malachi naa uban books ana before siguro i dont know.

    Natingala lang ko why ang King James Bible katong mga older version labi na ang Original Version naa ang Apocrypha ....

    So deli na preserve Bible ang King James bag-o lang nila gi tangtang ang Apocrypha.

  3. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by noister View Post
    likewise bro...

    pero ang pinaka-importante jud bro, ato relasyon sa Ginoo. . If anak ba jud ta niya. John 1:12, 1 John 5:13
    yup yup yup

  4. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    15 Books na ang Apocyrpha gibuhat na siya mas earlier pa sa malachi naa uban books ana before siguro i dont know.

    Natingala lang ko why ang King James Bible katong mga older version labi na ang Original Version naa ang Apocrypha ....

    So deli na preserve Bible ang King James bag-o lang nila gi tangtang ang Apocrypha.
    other reasons ako nahibaw-an ge tang2x ang Apocrypha kay wala ni ini ge suwat in Hebrew... and ang inspired by God jud kay was written in Hebrew man, all the OLD testament books. then ang NEW testament kay GREEK pag suwat.

  5. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by noister View Post
    other reasons ako nahibaw-an ge tang2x ang Apocrypha kay wala ni ini ge suwat in Hebrew... and ang inspired by God jud kay was written in Hebrew man, all the OLD testament books. then ang NEW testament kay GREEK pag suwat.
    Hebrew gihapon na ang New Testament bro, some text gani ana is Aramaic, it was only interpreted into Greek by St. Jerome.

    Verse dayon bro why ang Hebrew raman ang Inspired by God. Why ang Hebrew writings raman dapat e canonized ?

  6. #516
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Hebrew gihapon na ang New Testament bro, some text gani ana is Aramaic, it was only interpreted into Greek by St. Jerome.

    Verse dayon bro why ang Hebrew raman ang Inspired by God. Why ang Hebrew writings raman dapat e canonized ?
    thats not what history said, namatay na si jesus pag.abot ni st. jerome ang writting sa una ang ang pasabot ana.. jews speaks hebrew while some gentiles speaks the old language greek mao to gitranslate sa 70 rabbis ang scripture into greek..<<--- mao ni gigamit nga teaching ni jesus ug apostles niya then comes the NEW TESTAMENT ug wala dawata sa mga jews..

  7. #517
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    thats not what history said, namatay na si jesus pag.abot ni st. jerome ang writting sa una ang ang pasabot ana.. jews speaks hebrew while some gentiles speaks the old language greek mao to gitranslate sa 70 rabbis ang scripture into greek..<<--- mao ni gigamit nga teaching ni jesus ug apostles niya then comes the NEW TESTAMENT ug wala dawata sa mga jews..
    Balik2x man ta ana mam dartzed oi ... i already posted na its Hebrew before na you agreed .... karon dili napod ka agree.

    I posted before na ang mga Early Fathers attested na its in Hewbrew Text before it was translated .... dili nlang ko post kay reduntant na.

  8. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Balik2x man ta ana mam dartzed oi ... i already posted na its Hebrew before na you agreed .... karon dili napod ka agree.

    I posted before na ang mga Early Fathers attested na its in Hewbrew Text before it was translated .... dili nlang ko post kay reduntant na.
    hmmmmmm ah basta gitarnslate but the point is giapil man nya tanan.. ang imo sad claim is napugos kabaw ka kinsa nagpugos niya?..
    Last edited by dartzed; 10-28-2009 at 04:23 PM.

  9. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Tubag ... kanang apocryphal books lagi before sa council of trent wala pana siya na canonized, sa Vulgate naa na siya but is separated from the Canon ( accordingly dili puede for Church Doctrine )

    Its been included or added or being canonized during sa Council of Trent .... sa wala pa ang Council Trent The Roman Catholic Church is using the Canon without the Apocrypha.
    hmmmmm yes wala pa but apil sa scriptures the reason why giapil nana cla (7books only) kay ila man gitun.an..

    2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice.

    acts 17:11 - Now these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, who received the word with all eagerness, daily searching the scriptures, whether these things were so..<<--- this was paul's words to the Bareans scriptures man these people greek speaking jews so kad2ng septuagint ila gibasehan 4 sure.. if paul does not believe about the 7books to be studied then why would he say this.

    thus nigawas sa studies nga connected ang 7books sa other scriptures and yes naay proof of course..

  10. #520
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    thats not what history said, namatay na si jesus pag.abot ni st. jerome ang writting sa una ang ang pasabot ana.. jews speaks hebrew while some gentiles speaks the old language greek mao to gitranslate sa 70 rabbis ang scripture into greek..<<--- mao ni gigamit nga teaching ni jesus ug apostles niya then comes the NEW TESTAMENT ug wala dawata sa mga jews..
    Ka gets ko imo pasabot ... kana nga writing mao na ang Septuagint ( Greek Translation of the Jewish Scripture )

    But St Jerome in his Translation does not base of Septuagint but on the Hebrew Version. Which is mao na atoang gibasihan hangtod karon.

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