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  1. #41

    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    i know bro, those data were fetched man sad sa source pero the question sa authenticity sa data is at hand. Dili man sa readily accessible or convenient na kayu in details. That script change is very crucial, if you are in an IT field you know very well that while the system is running it is vital as uch as possible not to change any code or script may it be minor or not. It is break or alter the system most likely if not naa cguro sa high probablity naay natandog, gi tandog or matandog sa system. Rule of thumb jd ni nga while running no changes should be made labi na kay sensitive kaayu kay election. This has raised many questions, and why arang dugaya nila naka human noh? hehehe.. and by that phrase dili lisod e detect ang anomalies? That depends at most times.. if you know how to tweak efficiently with a lousy crowd then it is not a problem, but this case was different coz many IT experts are critical to even small matters. In short, when in doubt, then most likely you are right.. first mistake of software is to "assume" it is working fine when its not.
    Dili ko IT expert bro pero I understood nga critical to nga issue ang script change.
    Pero ang pasabot nako nga dili na kau lisud ang pag-detect sa mga anomalies is because makita na nimo kung asa nga region/province/town/or precinct nga questionable and that result can be verified immediately with the candidate's network of poll watchers/coordinators on what are the actual results in their specific area.
    Anyway bro, I think there will be an investigation to be conducted on this issue.
    Comelec's Rowena Guanzon seeks for a hold departure order for the concerned smartmatic personnel who changed the code.

  2. #42
    di jud ko kupyansaan ni leni... kibaw ko, whether you like it or not, tuta ra ghapon ni sa mga Aquino, Mar, dagkong tae sa LP og bisan gani sa Abias-CBN.

    Sa akong tan-aw ni Leni, incompetent jud ni sya. bisan kintahay sya jud modaog ining VP, di ghapon pasabot mo bilib ko niya. akong kuyawan unsa kaha diktahan sa mga Yellow ni Leni...

    Mas maau gani either si Cayetano or BBM ang modaog. saun taman ga labaw man jud si Leni. pero sa side ni BBM, pede mo request og recount.

  3. #43
    funny coz ang script issue happens on the one of the 3 server, and the one that has issue is not the final server... people are calling recount.. katawa man sad ta... wala pagani nag sugod ang counting sa president ug vp... as long as the 2 server coincide with each other even if ang sa ppcrv ang nausab di rana mo matter... beside ang server nga issue... is not the official one but just a copy used by the media...

    FYI

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    funny coz ang script issue happens on the one of the 3 server, and the one that has issue is not the final server... people are calling recount.. katawa man sad ta... wala pagani nag sugod ang counting sa president ug vp... as long as the 2 server coincide with each other even if ang sa ppcrv ang nausab di rana mo matter... beside ang server nga issue... is not the official one but just a copy used by the media...

    FYI
    huh?? not the official one but just a copy used by the media? are you saying those servers are but dummy or a copy? Am I missing something? From what I understood those are the transparency servers of COMELEC. Kasabot ka sa imong pasabot bro? one of the 3 servers but not the final server? LOL... the architecture of these servers by all means each of them are crucial. On which part that even one of the server is "tampered" not a big issue?

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    huh?? not the official one but just a copy used by the media? are you saying those servers are but dummy or a copy? Am I missing something? From what I understood those are the transparency servers of COMELEC. Kasabot ka sa imong pasabot bro? one of the 3 servers but not the final server? LOL... the architecture of these servers by all means each of them are crucial. On which part that even one of the server is "tampered" not a big issue?


    ang issue is ang transparency server... not the comelec which is the official... the transparency server is just a copy of the official.. as long as the official is untouch then we are good... no body had access to the central server only comelec, .. not even smartmatic... then again depende napud if i allow sa comelec nga ang smartmatic mohilabot sa central... but they should not...

    wala pasay nakakita ug unsa nay number inside sa central server except comelec/nboc, mao na ang basihan sa modaog sa national position

    mao nay failsafe sa automation... to prevent cheating and manipulation... as long as the central server is intact then there is no issue... maski ma hack panang transparency server... di rana mo matter kay public man na nga server... ang central maoy private...

    transparency server is CC while ang central maoy TO


    ive serve many elections before as BEI and a volunter... mao ni ang process sauna pa maski manual... minus the server
    Last edited by salbahis; 05-17-2016 at 03:56 PM.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    kakita ka adtong ilang debate ?? ug unsay ang yawyaw ni leni the rights of women .. puro ra cya kababaihan.

    VP ka then focus ka ug usa ka sector/demographic ra ?? pag sure oi.

    and kana iyang votes, if ever tinuod na, dili na tungod kay ganahan ang mga tao sa iyaha. kungdi gibayran niya ug dako ang mga tao. 2k or even 3k.
    Boss, aware ko adtong debate niya oie. Dismayado kaau si leni, I have to admit that.

    Obvious man jud tong binuhatan sa LP nga vote buying. rampant kaau to oie. kung ako pasulti-on, biktima jud sa tikas si BBM. even Du30 was cheated, but sa kadako sa labaw ni Du30, maglisud sila apas. Mar on 2nd spot is even questionable... tsk tsk. mao concede sila sa President instead ila gi-target sa VP.

    Naa pa ga status/ comment sa FB nga Okey lang mangdaya si Leni basta huwag lang ang Marcos. asa ka ana.. tsk tsk

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post


    ang issue is ang transparency server... not the comelec which is the official... the transparency server is just a copy of the official.. as long as the official is untouch then we are good... no body had access to the central server only comelec, .. not even smartmatic... then again depende napud if i allow sa comelec nga ang smartmatic mohilabot sa central... but they should not...

    wala pasay nakakita ug unsa nay number inside sa central server except comelec/nboc, mao na ang basihan sa modaog sa national position

    mao nay failsafe sa automation... to prevent cheating and manipulation... as long as the central server is intact then there is no issue... maski ma hack panang transparency server... di rana mo matter kay public man na nga server... ang central maoy private...

    transparency server is CC while ang central maoy TO


    ive serve many elections before as BEI and a volunter... mao ni ang process sauna pa maski manual...
    if you follow the flow and the process it is foolproof right? Nothing can change nor manipulate the actual result since no one can easily access the final server? Maybe so.. have you heard from reports on tampering of the election return last 2013 elections?

    Maybe you can have the idea why tampering of the transparency server gives a big issue on this 2016 election, and not something to be taken lightly.

    POLITICAL TIDBITS: Computer expert denounces to JCOC on AES chair Koko Pimentel tampering of election returns in 2013 elections, executed through “Workfile server” inserted by Smartmatic between the ‘Transparency Server’ opera

    in there was explained bits by bits on why such modification of any kind like the transparency serevrs may have made the system vulnerable, resulting in security breach, open to online interference or manipulation.
    Last edited by yhokz101; 05-17-2016 at 04:05 PM.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    if you follow the flow and the process it is foolproof right? Nothing can change nor manipulate the actual result since no one can easily access the final server? Maybe so.. have you heard from reports on tampering of the election return last 2013 elections?

    Maybe you can have the idea why tampering of the transparency server gives a big issue on this 2016 election, and not something to be taken lightly.

    POLITICAL TIDBITS: Computer expert denounces to JCOC on AES chair Koko Pimentel tampering of election returns in 2013 elections, executed through “Workfile server” inserted by Smartmatic between the ‘Transparency Server’ opera

    in there was explain bits by bits on why such modification may have made the system vulnerable, resulting in security breach, open to online interference or manipulation.
    any one with proper access can access the transparency server... if a hacker is good enough to do social engineering and acquire the key to access via shell then vulnerable na... im not surprise... however and central server is one-way data in no data out... afaik it doesnt have remote access with elevated rights... so if someone have to do changes they have to be in the physical server itself...

    again transparency server is not the official server where the results are tallied... for me its not an issue... gipadako lang na...

    if there is a manipulation it has to be done from precint level... central server is not connected through internet where as the transparency server is...

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    any one with proper access can access the transparency server... if a hacker is good enough to do social engineering and acquire the key to access via shell then vulnerable na... im not surprise... however and central server is one-way data in no data out... afaik it doesnt have remote access with elevated rights... so if someone have to do changes they have to be in the physical server itself...

    again transparency server is not the official server where the results are tallied... for me its not an issue... gipadako lang na...

    if there is a manipulation it has to be done from precint level... central server is not connected through internet where as the transparency server is...
    quite true, but it makes even simpler to manipulate and will take no hacker to do it when this "automated election system" still involves the physical transporting of SD (secure digital) memory cards containing the vote count and other details for every poll precinct. Keyword: "physically transporting of SD memory cards". Which is obviously much slower and fraught with security risks that threaten the integrity of the entire electoral process. Moreover, there could be switching of SD cards with fake ones with pre-programmed election results. Hence we go back to unofficial results that could tally the "rigging" of those SD cards. See the pattern?

  10. #50
    mas makuyawan si leni kung siya ang mananaug isip bise presidente kay basin ug tukbon ni siya ni digong ug basin ug adunay karnerong malapa sa leon sa sulod sa malakanyang

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