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    I think mao man na ang punto ni Trillanes, dili man seguro siya against sa idea sa K12 per se, but he's just emphasizing that no amount of educational reform will suffice if the physical infrastructures are not in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hexo View Post
    I think mao man na ang punto ni Trillanes, dili man seguro siya against sa idea sa K12 per se, but he's just emphasizing that no amount of educational reform will suffice if the physical infrastructures are not in place.
    Check this to be enlightened https://www.istorya.net/forums/politi...l#post16637632

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    Kung dili karon, kanus-a? Kung dili lang gyud makawat ang budget sa edukasyon for this year and the following years to come macover na seguro na na problema sa facilities... Na-worry sila sa pila? 85,000 College Professors and Workers na posible ma-retrench this coming 2016... But wala sila na worry sa mga high school graduates na wala nay capacity to go to college, or college graduates na walay kapaingnan kay dili qualify sa available na trabaho? Mo-istambay na lang dayun reklamo...

    Or na-worry sila sa ilahang colleges and universities na mugamay na unya ug estudyante, kay motrabaho na dayon after high school ang mga estudyante... Palihog daw ko tan-aw sa other side of the story, there might be something hideous about the Senator's POV.

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    Kung ipa repeal na ni Trillanes aning K-12 kay mobutar gyud ko niya. I believe in quality over quantity. Maski kapila pa na katuig idugang sa curriculum sa high school kung inana kulang libro classoom and teachers kay wala gyapon na madawdaw mga studyante sa public schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pak88 View Post
    Kung ipa repeal na ni Trillanes aning K-12 kay mobutar gyud ko niya. I believe in quality over quantity. Maski kapila pa na katuig idugang sa curriculum sa high school kung inana kulang libro classoom and teachers kay wala gyapon na madawdaw mga studyante sa public schools.
    The problem is, when the proposition is still in the drawing board, wa pud ni gihimay-himay niya. Not until now when schools are started rolling in for the K12 program.

    Usa ko sa mga skeptical about the K12 program. Kung imong hunahunaon, ang infrastructure lang daan, gakulang na with the current system, how much more if idugang pa ni nimo ni. While naay need nga i-augment ang quality sa edukasyon sa Pilipinas in order to be competitive globally, pero wala natarong ug tanaw unsa pay angay i-improve esp. on the infrastructure side.

    Hinoon, karon I am a bit surprised that as early as K1 now, naa nay mathematics/reading/reading comprehension/Filipino-Tagalog... Giahak sa akong panahon sauna, gadrawing-drawing ra man intawon mi ug linya, unya usahay kamuritsing pang agi.. Hahahahahahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by pak88 View Post
    Maski kapila pa na katuig idugang sa curriculum sa high school kung inana kulang libro classoom and teachers kay wala gyapon na madawdaw mga studyante sa public schools.
    Still doesn't negate the fact that the curriculum is inevitable in line with the Bologna Accord and the Washington Accord.

    Quote Originally Posted by psyche54 View Post
    Hinoon, karon I am a bit surprised that as early as K1 now, naa nay mathematics/reading/reading comprehension/Filipino-Tagalog... Giahak sa akong panahon sauna, gadrawing-drawing ra man intawon mi ug linya, unya usahay kamuritsing pang agi.. Hahahahahahahah
    The Department of Education did not mandate any subjects to structure the Kindergarten level. Some private schools adopt a structured curriculum and advertise that their pupils can read at an early age in the hopes of increasing their enrollees.

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    I don't know what those accords are and I have never hear of them. I don't know if we are required to change curriculum from those accords.

    However, the Filipino workforce is not that backward. We are a prime exporter of labor all around the globe and they are the product of a backward K-10 education we currently have. Since my elementary school days, I have heard of friends and relatives who migrated to Western countries and excelled in the education system that they have. So our private shool education system works.

    However, we really need to fix the quality of our public school system. Most of them are just going through the paces and do not produce quality graduates.


    Quote Originally Posted by NudgeDELTA View Post
    Still doesn't negate the fact that the curriculum is inevitable in line with the Bologna Accord and the Washington Accord.



    The Department of Education did not mandate any subjects to structure the Kindergarten level. Some private schools adopt a structured curriculum and advertise that their pupils can read at an early age in the hopes of increasing their enrollees.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by pak88 View Post
    I don't know what those accords are and I have never hear of them. I don't know if we are required to change curriculum from those accords.
    Well It's time to read before making a comment.

    Quote Originally Posted by pak88 View Post
    However, the Filipino workforce is not that backward. We are a prime exporter of labor all around the globe and they are the product of a backward K-10 education we currently have. Since my elementary school days, I have heard of friends and relatives who migrated to Western countries and excelled in the education system that they have. So our private shool education system works.
    Have you also heard how they need to take up additional couple of years before they can work abroad? The K-12 is a bi-sectorial program. It works in public and private education. You can't disregard the public.

    Quote Originally Posted by pak88 View Post
    However, we really need to fix the quality of our public school system. Most of them are just going through the paces and do not produce quality graduates.
    There's no question about fixing the quality. The issue here is Trillanes. A senator with military background trying to oppose a law in education without truly understanding it.

  9. #49
    If you say it is required well I will take your word for it but I'm not going spend time to read that unless I'm getting paid for

    I don't know what you mean by additional couple of years before they can work abroad. I doubt that the K-12 system can fix that due to the generally poor quality of secondary education here. Adding two more years will exacerbate the problem as Sen. Trillanes may possibly realize. The government should focus on addressing the lack of basic materials for public schools and not having to add two more years that students will have to sleepwalk through.



    Quote Originally Posted by NudgeDELTA View Post
    Well It's time to read before making a comment.



    Have you also heard how they need to take up additional couple of years before they can work abroad? The K-12 is a bi-sectorial program. It works in public and private education. You can't disregard the public.



    There's no question about fixing the quality. The issue here is Trillanes. A senator with military background trying to oppose a law in education without truly understanding it.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by pak88 View Post
    I don't know what you mean by additional couple of years before they can work abroad. I doubt that the K-12 system can fix that due to the generally poor quality of secondary education here. Adding two more years will exacerbate the problem as Sen. Trillanes may possibly realize. The government should focus on addressing the lack of basic materials for public schools and not having to add two more years that students will have to sleepwalk through.
    We were the only country left aside from Mongolia to have only 10 years of basic education in Asia. If you have not noticed, circa 2005 there were a lot of agencies that offer "studying while earning opportunities" abroad. In other countries our college graduates are considered high school graduates, our masters graduate as college graduates, our PhD graduates as masters graduates. The K-12 allows us to be at par with other countries so our migrating countrymen can work directly.

    While the quality of education is still a problem that needs to be addressed right away, the K-12 curriculum is one of the solutions. Students can't sleepwalk through Senior High since majority of the program entails skills work.

    Moreover, after Senior High, the graduates are at par with TESDA graduates. Hence, they can work in trade industries. Currently, it is faster to go abroad via the TESDA route than finishing a 4-year degree. Some are even earning more than our doctors. Addressing the problem of graduate compatibility to local industries is equally important than the quality of education.

    In closing, I urge everyone to read more intensively about the topic before posting a comment. Read the whole thread, since there are pertinent information about the topic that has been discussed already.

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