MERGED: Do You Want U.S. Statehood For the Philippines?

[gareb]

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yeah!@!# goddamn imperialists!!! i dont really hate america though. coz they obviously influence our daily lives. no matter how anti-america you are, you still read there books, listen to their music, watch their hollywood movies, and in this case politics, you still take your stand against the iraq war even when your on the other side of the world. so what can you do? they got us by the b**ls.

most unfrortunatley they do... but for us to sit by the bystands and do nothing... would be most irresponsible for us... us who are supposedly educated and enlightened enough to see this.

i do not hate america as a country and as a people. what i hate is the way they deal with the people around them... what i hate is the way their government is enslaving us in subtle ways that only a few enlightened minds can see.

[r/brey]

yeah, we should become a communist country. and stop them from coming here. resign from the UN. then go to war. and maybe with george bush's one push of a button, nuclear missile goes off, we will all be ashes. vanished from the earth. a sad scenario but that could happen. the faint UN couldnt do anything about it. look at iraq. to think that the UN is the most powerful organization in the world. they're just all under Uncle Sam's a**.
thats just the thing about being a third world country in an imperialistic world. not much we can do about it. we live in sad times.

[gareb]

yeah, we should become a communist country. and stop them from coming here. resign from the UN. then go to war. and maybe with george bush's one push of a button, nuclear missile goes off, we will all be ashes. vanished from the earth. a sad scenario but that could happen. the faint UN couldnt do anything about it. look at iraq. to think that the UN is the most powerful organization in the world. they're just all under Uncle Sam's a**.
thats just the thing about being a third world country in an imperialistic world. not much we can do about it. we live in sad times.

we live in sad, sad time indeed.. yet communism too has its drawbacks... and to reisign from the UN will, i believe would be a great step backward.

what be ought to do is to isolate the United States; cripple it economically and militarily. it will affect us sure... but in the long run we will be the ones who will take home the bacon... provided of course that no other imperialist country wil take its place.

no need to repeat the 9/11 really. we could do this by rejecting american products and using instead our own. as simple as that... yet as hard too.

[silent-kill]

US nuked us!!!!! plsssssss.

[gareb]

huh?

[r/brey]

and yeah dirk, there is no limit to a mind's potential. no matter how young it may be. i just dont see it fit to put "age" right in the middle of the intelligent discussion. cmon. so what if you're older. i mean you can say only and mostly all wizards are old, white haired and bearded tall men. but its the new age man, look at harry potter huh?.

[gareb]

those aged may have wisdom, but they too have weak knees...
yet the young, with the vibrance and folly of youth also has knowledge.

[MuzicWierdoz]

hmp.....yeah agree


remember the days of your youth

[n`gel]

n'gel:

i know you're having a real hard time with this, but what mental_slave wrote was sarcastic. isn't it obvious that he's filipino, and is simply trying to make a point (although somewhat rudely)? he's anti-american and trying to mimic what pro-americans would say, or what he thinks they would say. it's that simple. he's mocking the pro-american filipinos, that's all.

We Filipinos say the meanest things to ourselves that hardly anyone would even say to us. Such cumbersome, utterly inept writing style deserves downright criticism. If you call it rude, I call it clumsy and ambiguous. And apparently a harsh and willful attempt to bruise every Filipino's ego.

[Visual C#]

As for racism in American policy allow me to explain further. As I've noted, the ones who directly affect foreign policy are not your Chinese-American, African-American, Latino friends, the ones who make the big decisions are all Anglo-Saxon rich males (i.e. Rumsfeld, Bush, etc.) who have a foot hold in Amercan society. Going back to the mines in the philippines, if they are responsible for abuse and extensive pollution (and this has been documented thru various NGOs and the UN) shouldn't the American gov't regulate its own entities? thousands upon thousands of complaints have been submitted to the U.S. State Dept., but they have chosen not to do anything. this is foreign policy. Why is America good inside America, but treat the rest of the world as a mere place to procure natural resources? Home Depot, the american hardwear store, gets 90% of its wood from Indonesia, effectively contributing to this nation's deforestation dilemma. the U.S. has been treating the whole Gulf Region in the middle east as a big dumb gasoline station, sucking up oil, while effectively manipulating politics in the region to guarantee this 'interest'. It is American policy to suck up the rest of the world's natural resources, becuz the U.S. population is the biggest consumer nation in the world. the not caring about what happens to people, their environment, and their way of life is RACISM. This hyper consumer culture began two centuries ago in America. to satiate this unnatural hunger, they've employed slaves to produce. American policy has been justified thru 'manifest destiny', in which millions of Native Americans were annihilated, to make way for american consumption. It spread thru Hawaii, where the Dole and Del monte corporations, effectively 'acquired' what was supposed to be a sovereign nation. To the 'benevolent' assumption of the philippines. American policy dates back a few century, and it's nothing new. What has changed is the sublty of the policy, not the purpose. This is why mining abuses is American racism.

I must admit, that's the best historical and systematic breakdown of the American problem here in the Philippines. I think most of us still suffer from colonial mentality, but are just unaware of it. It's like the "Matrix", dirk and mental slave (like Morpheus, Neo, and Trinity) are trying to show us the truth, but some people are just not ready to wake up. They'd just rather be comfortable in their little illusion of American benevolence. Me, I'm ready to wake up from this illusion. Down with America !!! Down with the System !!!

We were having a similar argument in the Philippine Reservation thread.... wala ko kahibalo nga pariha diay ang giawayan diri.... amen to that by the way, and what a great analogy!!! The Matrix!!!