ASPIN... is there any move to standardize our local breed?

[buttmen]

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by definition, thats not inbreeding. inbreeding, or close-inbreeding is the mating two closely related dogs.

But isn't that what is meant by inbreeding?

Sire to his own puppy mating. Unless you have any other explanations. +I mean when a puppy gets older....+

[buttmen]

... as far as health reasons are concerned, the risk is even more greater in dogs whose parents come from the same bloodline.

greater? i dont think so.

But that's what most people and even the scientists would claim. If a certain dog breed were prone to a particular genetic disease, there is a big chance that its offspring will 'benefit' or inherit that disease.

[buttmen]

in each breed there is an agreed and universally recognized standards... and it is this same standards that judges in dogshows are supposed to adhere to. they judge each dog as to its proximity to its breed's standards. i emphasize "supposed to" coz we know for a fact that judging is subjective and is far from ideal, esp. so if a particular judge is unreliable.

i think this video clip will enlighten us

YouTube - German Shepherd half dog half frog

[Ironwood_Cebu]

But isn't that what is meant by inbreeding?

Sire to his own puppy mating. Unless you have any other explanations. +I mean when a puppy gets older....+

your premise man gud sa imu previous post was breeding dogs of the same line/breed... mao imu ingun mas advisable ang crossbreeding... was that what you meant sa imu previous post? thats why i answered nga by definition, thats not inbreeding.

as to sire-pup mating.. thats precisely inbreeding.. and it is bad irregardless same breed or not (or aspin).

[Ironwood_Cebu]

But that's what most people and even the scientists would claim. If a certain dog breed were prone to a particular genetic disease, there is a big chance that its offspring will 'benefit' or inherit that disease.

pure breeds have no monopoly of passing genetic defects to its offsprings... even crossbreeds can. that is why if one has a defective dog, he should not be breeding it anymore, to avert passing these bad traits.

[Ironwood_Cebu]

i think this video clip will enlighten us

YouTube - German Shepherd half dog half frog

this issue i believe is entirely of different topic... its a continuing debate and whatever sides we'll chose, i dont think we can competently discuss and give justice here... this is aside from the fact im not familiar with gsd's standards.

[thethird79]

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[buttmen]

pure breeds have no monopoly of passing genetic defects to its offsprings... even crossbreeds can. that is why if one has a defective dog, he should not be breeding it anymore, to avert passing these bad traits.

that's why i used earlier the term 'greater' risk or chance... and that is for purebreeds.
whereas for crossbreeds, lesser chance to inherit the disease... according to my readings...

... as far as health reasons are concerned, the risk is even more greater in dogs whose parents come from the same bloodline.

[buttmen]

this issue i believe is entirely of different topic... its a continuing debate and whatever sides we'll chose, i dont think we can competently discuss and give justice here... this is aside from the fact im not familiar with gsd's standards.

I'm just using an example here... that's why we don't allow siblings, i.e., human beings, to marry. For me, it's not really about morality or religion... it is about health or genetic issue.