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    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    if you are really serious about your question, you really need to search for the truth if Jesus really existed. one way is asking from this forum or go search from any reliable source you may think... you must act on it and search for it...

    kung duna ky nawagtang, imong pangita-on, dili ang nawagtang mao ang mangita nimo, dba? hehehe...

    or pwd sab kapoy man mangita or impossible man nga makakita ka ug reliable or credible nga source, d pasgdahan lng until nga makit-an ra nimo, bahalag dugay hehe

    Bitaw bro tinuod jud sa karon nga panahon lisod mangita sa history sa pagkatinuod sa usa ka butang, k daghan man gud istorya nga mugna mugna lang, ang ako lang is mg search ko sa tinuoray kay kapoy man gud nang motuo lang ta diretso bisag dili proven hehehehe. usa pa ang catholicism christianity nga religion mao baya ni ang gi duso pag ayo sa mga kastela sa unang panahon and you know kung unsay nahitabo ato nga time, gipamatay ang mga tawo atong higayona nga dili mo sunod sa ilang gi insist nga relihiyon kay aron lang ma convert into christian catholic, ilahang toturon ang mga tawo aron mahimong catholic heheheh what is this pinugsanay? ang nag sugod ug sayop mahuman nga sayop, kung tinuod pa nga existing si Jesus Christ yman ultimo ang mga jewish people wla man jud nakaila ni Cristo? usa pa ang taga Roma man ang nag indorso ani sa mga Tawo sa philippines ug sa uban pang nasod. Questionable kau ang mga panghitabo bro dili ba? Example: Ang tawo nga taga Cebu mailhan siya sa mga Sugbuanon dili ba? unya karon Si Cristo nga Taga Irael nailhan ba sa mga taga Israel? Wala! What a Questionable insident! karon kinsay nag paila ni Jesu Cristo sa mga Tawo dili ba ang mga "ROMANS"? WHY ROMANS? WHY NOT ISRAELITES? SI CRISTO TAGA ISRAEL MAN KAHA? DILI MAN SIYA TAGA ROMA? Simple kaayo ni Bro pero naglibog ang mga tawo ngano naunsa ning hitaboa, Example: SI Peter or Si Paul bato? diin gi patay dili ba sa ROMA MISMO? if ROMANS were the true followers of Christ then Why did they kill the apostle of Christ? Dili ba ila pa unta ning himoong PARE SI PETER OR SI PAUL SA ROMA? hehehehe libog lang ko dah nagdako ko nga NAG TUO SA MGA BAKAK SA RELIGION. hehehehehe thanks bro for the comments...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Bitaw bro tinuod jud sa karon nga panahon lisod mangita sa history sa pagkatinuod sa usa ka butang, k daghan man gud istorya nga mugna mugna lang, ang ako lang is mg search ko sa tinuoray kay kapoy man gud nang motuo lang ta diretso bisag dili proven hehehehe. usa pa ang catholicism christianity nga religion mao baya ni ang gi duso pag ayo sa mga kastela sa unang panahon and you know kung unsay nahitabo ato nga time, gipamatay ang mga tawo atong higayona nga dili mo sunod sa ilang gi insist nga relihiyon kay aron lang ma convert into christian catholic, ilahang toturon ang mga tawo aron mahimong catholic heheheh what is this pinugsanay? ang nag sugod ug sayop mahuman nga sayop, kung tinuod pa nga existing si Jesus Christ yman ultimo ang mga jewish people wla man jud nakaila ni Cristo? usa pa ang taga Roma man ang nag indorso ani sa mga Tawo sa philippines ug sa uban pang nasod. Questionable kau ang mga panghitabo bro dili ba? Example: Ang tawo nga taga Cebu mailhan siya sa mga Sugbuanon dili ba? unya karon Si Cristo nga Taga Irael nailhan ba sa mga taga Israel? Wala! What a Questionable insident! karon kinsay nag paila ni Jesu Cristo sa mga Tawo dili ba ang mga "ROMANS"? WHY ROMANS? WHY NOT ISRAELITES? SI CRISTO TAGA ISRAEL MAN KAHA? DILI MAN SIYA TAGA ROMA? Simple kaayo ni Bro pero naglibog ang mga tawo ngano naunsa ning hitaboa, Example: SI Peter or Si Paul bato? diin gi patay dili ba sa ROMA MISMO? if ROMANS were the true followers of Christ then Why did they kill the apostle of Christ? Dili ba ila pa unta ning himoong PARE SI PETER OR SI PAUL SA ROMA? hehehehe libog lang ko dah nagdako ko nga NAG TUO SA MGA BAKAK SA RELIGION. hehehehehe thanks bro for the comments...
    1st gyud nga step bro is to assume that it is there, that it is true that Jesus existed... then from there, you can move to the next step, dba? bec if you immediately assume gud nga wala Siya ni exist, then wala na ka next move to prove it, di ba? and the search for the truth never stops until proven nga di gyud tinood, basin makakita ra ka ug reliable and credible source, basin naa ra pud na sa Catholic Church pero hidden lng sa public, di ba? every possibilities gyud you have to consider

    katong naghago ug pangita unya nakakita sa tinood, of course, d na gyud to sila magsaba... ky kabalo man sab sila nga kung sayon ra pangita-on, dili tagaan ug gibug-aton or importansya... pareha sa kwarta nga gihagoan ug trabaho ug sa kwarta nga hinatag or kinit-an lng... asa kaha ang sayon ra igasto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    1st gyud nga step bro is to assume that it is there, that it is true that Jesus existed... then from there, you can move to the next step, dba? bec if you immediately assume gud nga wala Siya ni exist, then wala na ka next move to prove it, di ba? and the search for the truth never stops until proven nga di gyud tinood, basin makakita ra ka ug reliable and credible source, basin naa ra pud na sa Catholic Church pero hidden lng sa public, di ba? every possibilities gyud you have to consider

    katong naghago ug pangita unya nakakita sa tinood, of course, d na gyud to sila magsaba... ky kabalo man sab sila nga kung sayon ra pangita-on, dili tagaan ug gibug-aton or importansya... pareha sa kwarta nga gihagoan ug trabaho ug sa kwarta nga hinatag or kinit-an lng... asa kaha ang sayon ra igasto?

    kaw bro naka tugkad naka sa mystery ani bro?

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    for me, the existence of jesus is like the legend of king arthur. na because of the story's popularity, people think and believe that there is a real king arthur. but i a sense, king arthur exist but in another being who is the basis for the person who created the character itself, sir malory had a model person where he based his character king arthur. same with jesus, i believe there was somebody who did some extra ordinary things that could be considered divine and extraordinary "THAT TIME" and somebody made a story based on that persons life, and thus the person known as jesus existed. we all know how story and word of mouth flies.. so the existence of a jesus could be true but the story evolving his life might be somebody's kaleidoscope imagination.

    just my 2 cents... IMO lang..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zubanu View Post
    for me, the existence of jesus is like the legend of king arthur. na because of the story's popularity, people think and believe that there is a real king arthur. but i a sense, king arthur exist but in another being who is the basis for the person who created the character itself, sir malory had a model person where he based his character king arthur. same with jesus, i believe there was somebody who did some extra ordinary things that could be considered divine and extraordinary "THAT TIME" and somebody made a story based on that persons life, and thus the person known as jesus existed. we all know how story and word of mouth flies.. so the existence of a jesus could be true but the story evolving his life might be somebody's kaleidoscope imagination.

    just my 2 cents... IMO lang..
    if Criss Angel or David Blaine existed during "that time" they could have been regarded as "divine" as well. basin magician siguro to si Jesus mao daghan nailad. abi nila divine pero slight of hand ra diay.

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    i agree with you bro... if somebody had a cellphone that time he would have been considered divine.. hehehehe...

    just as when somebody tried to question a "religious act" done by the church, can be considered heresy at that time.
    what the catholic church did in the inquisition when they burned people in stakes because they were thought to be witches was just purely bullish, its just like what the amputuans did in maguindanao.

    and its the catholic church who venerated jesus portraying him as a person of divine existence. he maybe is, nothing wrong with that. but its the catholic church who made joan of arc a martyr and saint whom they burn themslves because she's considered a heretic.

    just very ironic...now i wonder how they can portray the life of jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    so mao diay ang founder sa new age movement lives in india? am i right?
    d pa ta cgurado oi, wa pa gani ta kahibalo, basin mas una pa na sila didto, wala lng sila nagsaba for protection... nahitabo na baya sa alexandria, egypt nga gipangsunog ang library with many books about earth mysteries, ang mysteryo ana kung nasunog ba ang tanan books hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Tinuod ba nga may JESUS CHRIST? Is he really exists?
    murag past tense siguro ang angay, sir. "did he really exist?"

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    just be in Him and you will know that he really exist.

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    Thumbs up bro

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    murag past tense siguro ang angay, sir. "did he really exist?"
    bro matsalams sa correction, dili man gud ko maayo ug iningles mao nga bisdak kau pagka sulat but by the way it doesnt matter to me. stick lang ta sa thread bro. what's on your mind? about this pangutana?

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