If there is no God, Who Governs Right or Wrong?

[tarpolano]

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"Right or Wrong is based on society, we make rules so that we can co-exist". This contradicts brad in history. Hitler or the Germans Didnt work out For them during the second world war. May unta dili mga pinoy e sunod... patay....

Right or Wrong is purely subjective and situational. Sure the Germans might have thought that their actions were Right, but the greater part of society even some of the Gemans perceived it as Wrong. So society as a whole corrected ourselves, the allies beat the germans and somewhat peace is restored. And then created committees like the United Nations so that atrocities like this will never happen again. But still things like this still happen albeit in a smaller scale all because of religion. Humanity still has a long way to go.

[Forcedesk]

The government?

[munzter666]

Well it is just a proof the the BIBLE you said is powerful. People used it for different reason and people believe. You see there is nothing wrong with the intention of the Bible I hope you agree. Its the people who used it to thier advantage. Let me repeat again. For Athiest how do you know its Right or Wrong.

ow dear, andyan ka na naman. making it a PROOOF now for the bible's validity or power.

do note, there are other HOLY literature out there not just the BIBLE.

if a person tells somebody to kill anther. you'd expect the reaction "wa ka na vuuuu-eng?"
but if you ask somebody to kill another...backs it up with bible verses, and closes it with GOD WILLS IT. you'd be surprised with some of the reactions.

[Ramini]

akoang answer sa thread is kng wlai god..ang mu rule is ang balaod sa tao..naa mana sa balaod sa tao nga kng mupatay ka..ma priso ka..depende sa imong intention..simple.

[kebot]

ow dear, andyan ka na naman. making it a PROOOF now for the bible's validity or power.

do note, there are other HOLY literature out there not just the BIBLE.

if a person tells somebody to kill anther. you'd expect the reaction "wa ka na vuuuu-eng?"
but if you ask somebody to kill another...backs it up with bible verses, and closes it with GOD WILLS IT. you'd be surprised with some of the reactions.

Idiota jud nmo brad. Ikaw ra nag mention og Bible. Basaha kuno usob imo post then ako post. Kung ni post ka lain book i still going to qoute it. Mao naka daot nmo brad reading comprehension palang slow na kaayo. D nana nako sala if lahi imo interpretation. If wala ka nag mention wala unta tay libro istoryahan, Nano mangatol man ka og maka basa og BIBLE? bsin gi kaJID na na ha... lols..

Brad my intention is to qoute you. Wala gani ko kabalu na Bible gi Basihan ni HITLER. can you show proof ana imong gi ingon. WTF, pagar par raman na imo oi...

[kebot]

ow dear, andyan ka na naman. making it a PROOOF now for the bible's validity or power.

do note, there are other HOLY literature out there not just the BIBLE.

if a person tells somebody to kill anther. you'd expect the reaction "wa ka na vuuuu-eng?"
but if you ask somebody to kill another...backs it up with bible verses, and closes it with GOD WILLS IT. you'd be surprised with some of the reactions.

Brad For your Info brad, those people who use Bible for thier benefit is called KULTO. Sure pede man gani ka gamit Bible dba? so dont accuse people who use Bible are all wrong. LOGIC BRAD.

[miyay]

what's right and wrong is dictated by man. god is just used as an excuse or a way to reinforce man's will on others. isn't this how the "divine right of kings" started?

[munzter666]

Brad For your Info brad, those people who use Bible for thier benefit is called KULTO. Sure pede man gani ka gamit Bible dba? so dont accuse people who use Bible are all wrong. LOGIC BRAD.

lolz, ALL organized religion including the one you're subscribing use some form of HOLY literature for their benefit.

there's nothing wrong about the pope donning expensive Italian leather sandals(heck, he speaks prada for all i care, good taste though), or sitting on a golden throne. its an image thing, he has to look good with some bling-bling.

guns dont kill people.
people kill people.

guns are just like religion(featuring its basic structural and functional unit d bible).

logic ka nanaman. kakasabi mo lang na ...even if its logically unreasonable. nag a-apeal ka pa sa LOGIC.lolz

[kebot]

lolz, ALL organized religion including the one you're subscribing use some form of HOLY literature for their benefit.

there's nothing wrong about the pope donning expensive Italian leather sandals(heck, he speaks prada for all i care, good taste though), or sitting on a golden throne. its an image thing, he has to look good with some bling-bling.

guns dont kill people.
people kill people.

guns are just like religion(featuring its basic structural and functional unit d bible).

logic ka nanaman. kakasabi mo lang na ...even if its logically unreasonable. nag a-apeal ka pa sa LOGIC.lolz

Sorry Brad pero Bible is like a two edged sword not GUNS.. hahaha. And Besides nobody said about killing? nano na abot naman ka ana na topic?

Imo posts Killing og ang POPE, TOPIC IS RIGHT OR WRONG? sak2 ba? hmmm...

Brad Believing is Free, Life is Free, nano ma problema man ka? I tot ala kay paki alam kay di ka mo 2o? Aw nano makig lalis man ka? Nasuya ka sa Catholic pope kay naa cya Golden throne. Omg. Murag imo problema brad dako u hate people, you hate belief and ingon paka mas maayo ka kay HONEST.

YAY! mahadlok man pod ta nmo brad.

[munzter666]

Sorry Brad pero Bible is like a two edged sword not GUNS.. hahaha. And Besides nobody said about killing? nano na abot naman ka ana na topic?

Imo posts Killing og ang POPE, TOPIC IS RIGHT OR WRONG? sak2 ba? hmmm...

Brad Believing is Free, Life is Free, nano ma problema man ka? I tot ala kay paki alam kay di ka mo 2o? Aw nano makig lalis man ka? Nasuya ka sa Catholic pope kay naa cya Golden throne. Omg. Murag imo problema brad dako u hate people, you hate belief and ingon paka mas maayo ka kay HONEST.

YAY! mahadlok man pod ta nmo brad.

please, by all means keep the FAITH. dont use that as your scapegoat. nobody is holding you back regarding such BELIEF. stick to the topic.

well, if you prefer the 2 edged sword(so oldskul, CRUSADES oldskul)...i like to use GUNs to give it a more modern feel.

mo posts Killing og ang POPE, TOPIC IS RIGHT OR WRONG? sak2 ba? hmmm...

which really is about the point i'm implying.
we have religion NOW like before. we have god centered states/countries NOW same with before.

can you spot any significant observations? most religious countries...well you'll find these countries are on the brink of poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt. RIGHT or WRONG you ask? religion is either ineffective or just plain dud. its not the religion's fault by the way, its the hands pulling its strings...MEN, not GOD.

same sh!t different packaging.