Unsa may 7th day of the week? Sabado o Domingo?

[jouho]

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i hope dili masyang akong gipost dire,
kapoy bya cg type..basaha sad ninyo.

according to Soul Doctor, murag genius nko.

thnx kaau Soul Doctor.

God will bless u more.

[rcruman]

Asa na man to si Rc Ruman oi!
Mangayo og verse
unya dili magpasalamat kung tagaan!

out of range man ka bro.
unsa may pasalamatan nako nga pataka man lang kag punit og dili man mao ang issue.
Kahibalo ba ka nga physical sabbath ang gibuak ni Jesus Christ sa imo gihatag nga verse?
duna bayay Spiritual Sabbath bro FYI lang unless wla ka kahibalo.
og ang spiritual Sabbath mao ang gitudlo ni Jesus.

Sakto ka nga sa dihang gibuak ni Jesus ang sabbath kay naghimo siya og maayo (nanambal) og naay verse imo man gani gihatag.


sa dihang nisulti ko nga "tabla raman og ayawg tuo sa GINOO imo statement bro."
kay kini ako gibasihan nga imo statement:
"Pero dili importante ang Sabbath Day."

kasumpay naka karon sa ako pasabot.

karon asa nga verse nga "dili importante ang Sabbath Day"?
bro ang angay nimo mahibaw-an kay naay time frame ang bible og naay spiritual meaning.


Peace!

[Soul Doctor]

i hope dili masyang akong gipost dire,
kapoy bya cg type..basaha sad ninyo.

according to Soul Doctor, murag genius nko.

thnx kaau Soul Doctor.

God will bless u more.

^^ OT:
Inagon ani palang kagwapo ang mga forumers diri,
wala untay lalis!

[Soul Doctor]

out of range man ka bro.
unsa may pasalamatan nako nga pataka man lang kag punit og dili man mao ang issue.
Kahibalo ba ka nga physical sabbath ang gibuak ni Jesus Christ sa imo gihatag nga verse?
duna bayay Spiritual Sabbath bro FYI lang unless wla ka kahibalo.
og ang spiritual Sabbath mao ang gitudlo ni Jesus.

Sakto ka nga sa dihang gibuak ni Jesus ang sabbath kay naghimo siya og maayo (nanambal) og naay verse imo man gani gihatag.


sa dihang nisulti ko nga "tabla raman og ayawg tuo sa GINOO imo statement bro."
kay kini ako gibasihan nga imo statement:
"Pero dili importante ang Sabbath Day."

kasumpay naka karon sa ako pasabot.

karon asa nga verse nga "dili importante ang Sabbath Day"?
bro ang angay nimo mahibaw-an kay naay time frame ang bible og naay spiritual meaning.


Peace!

Spiritual Meaning?
Sabbath?

Akong gipasabot nga dili importante ang Sabado
ug ang mga karaang balaod nga gituman kada Sabado.

Si Jesus mismo daghan ug gihimo nga nakalapas kuno sa balaod bahin sa adlaw nga Sabado.
Pero kinsa may naghimo atong mga balaod (bahin sa adlaw nga Sabado)?
Dili Ba tao ra?
Mao nga si Jesus wala panumbalinga kining ilang balaod sa Sabado.

Dili importante ang adlaw nga Sabado ug ang balaod niini.
Ang importante unsa ang imong gibuhat niining adlawa,
ug kung ang imong gibuhat makalipay ba kini sa Ginoo.

Ka-Sabbath na ka?
O wala gihapon ka ka-Sabbath?
Gibinisaya na jud ni nako ha!

[Kenshiro]

Matthew 28: 1 - In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

so at the end of the Sabbath, the first day began which is Sunday when Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

Sunday is the Sabbath day when it is clearly depicted that after sabbath that it is the first day of the week.
As you have stated the first day of the week is Sunday. So what is the 7th day?

You have misunderstood what you have stated bro.

As what I understand let me reinstate what you really mean:
Sunday is the day that we should celebrate the resurrection.

The Word of God makes it quite clear that Sabbath observance was a special sign between God and Israel: "And Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain, saying, "Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel: 'You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings and brought you to Myself. Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine'" (Exodus 19:3–5).

It doesnt say that we should keep the commandment except the fourth commandment

This idea is repeated more than once in the New Testament: "One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it" (Romans 14:5–6a). "But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You observe days and months and seasons and years" (Galatians 4:9–10).

These were the old tradition of the Jew by which keeping lunar sabbaths, seasons and old traditional feasts are being manipulated by the Pharisees for their own good and to corrupt what God has commanded. Paul is not talking about breaking the fourth commandment.
This letter is mainly aimed for those old traditional feast and statutes of the Jews.
These are minor laws and statutes which include lunar sabbath's monthly feasts, circumcision and lamb sacricifes are part of these statutes. This is what paul is talking about that should not be mandated anymore. Even the manner of how the ten commandments are mandated.

Did Jesus break the Sabbath commandment in the law of God (Exodus 20:8-11, Deuteronomy 5:12-15)? Let's let Jesus Himself answer that question
"I have kept my Father's commandments" (John 15:10).

Also in response to the young man who asked Him what to do to inherit eternal life, Jesus said,

"If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments " (Matthew 19:17).]

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets" (Matthew 5:17).

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:19

How beautiful to know that the death of Jesus means we no longer have to look at the blood of lambs, the table of stone, or try to be perfect by our own works! Now that Jesus has taken our sins on Himself at the cross of Calvary, His righteousness atones for our sins if we simply confess that we are sinners and ask for His forgiveness.[/quote]

Jesus emphatically did not break any of God's commandments. Not even the slightest detail! So which commandments did Jesus break? The answer is found in another quote from Christ Himself, recorded in Matthew 15:9,

"In vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."

Jesus quoted this statement from Isaiah 29:13 and applied it to "the tradition of the elders" (Matthew 15:1) as taught and practiced by the hypocritical, self-righteous scribes and Pharisees who sat in judgment of Him. These "commandments" were also known to the Jews as the "oral Torah (law)." It was this verbal version of the law that Jesus sought to correct in the "sermon on the mount." This is clearly evident by his statement:

You have heard that it was said to those of old, . . ."

that prefaced each of his pronouncements (Matthew 5:21, 27, 31, 33, 38, 43). What follows is Jesus' explanation of the proper application of the commandment upon which the particular tradition was based. Jesus thus "fulfilled" the law by restoring it to its complete original meaning and intent. Our righteousness must therefore exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees (verse 20) in that we must keep the law of God in its proper intent. To put it another way, we must keep the spirit of the law, not just the letter of the law. This is only possible through the presence of the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:7-9), which God offers upon repentance and baptism (Acts 2:3. But that is another subject.

The catholic church changed the worship from Saturday to Sunday not becuase the Bible indicates to ignore the Sabbath but it is an excercise of its own Authority:

Who is responsible for all of the confusion regarding the Sabbath?

In the Bible's prophetic book of Daniel, God lists many identifying characteristics of the little horn who would 'think to change' God's law. The Bible's identifying points clearly implicate the Roman Catholic church as this organization. Infact, you can even find the answer to this question by looking at the many statements made by the church and its leadership.

“The Catholic Church designated Sunday as the day for corporate worship and gets full credit – or blame – for the change.” This Rock, The Magazine of Catholic Apologetics and Evangelization, p.8, June 1997

"The Church, on the other hand, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, to the first, made the Third Commandment refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord's Day." The Catholic Encyclopedia,

''Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.'' C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

How ironic that we should keep all the ten commandments except the fourth commandment
Considering the signs of the AntiChrist during the last days:

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. " Daniel 7:25

long ago God predicted that, from within the church itself, misguided men would arise who would attempt to change His holy law. We'll do a little detective work here, can you guess what does the Bible mean of law and times have been "changed". What is a commandment that is both law and time.
Yes that is the 4th commandment by which the Anti Christ is explicitly trying to change.

For if we break a single commandment we effectively break all commandments.

If we love Christ we should keep God's commandments
To observe the sabbath is a clear recognition that we obey Gods commandments:

"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:1

It is clearly stated that God intend's for us to keep his commandments.

[NASYO]

very satisfactory. I hope our SDA brothers will have an opportunity.
I hope so.

[arubinkun]

Here's what I researched from Wiki...

Calendar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

- The practice of naming the seven days after the then known "planets" goes back to Babylonian or Egyptian times and was adopted by Greeks and Romans.

** I guess the names of the days isn't so biblical after all...

I believe that in the old times (as mentioned in the bible) they didn't use names for the days but numbers... I'm not sure...

[NASYO]

based on chinese calendar, lahi sad ilaha no?

[Soul Doctor]

Mao bitaw na ang mga conflicting parts sa Bible.
And we keep justifying by giving reasons ang excuses
about all these biblical contradictions.

[NASYO]

maayo pa ang message sa "imagine" na kanta no, kay wala man bangi bahin sa mga adlaw, petsa, piyesta ug uban pa.

nganong dili man jud patu-o ning uban diri nga ato na i-apply sa tagsa2x nato ka kinabuhi ang "Imagine" philosophy.