View Poll Results: who is the greatest bball player of all time?

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  • KOBE! KOBE! KOBE!

    43 14.93%
  • MJ! MJ! MJ!

    245 85.07%
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  1. #481

    hala kinsa kaha tong mga fools diri...

  2. #482
    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze426 View Post
    let kobe play with a flu in a nba finals game on the road (kana kung maka balik pa)...
    bitaw sah,payter kaayo to oi! even na sakit siya ato,duwa gihapon. grabe kaayo fighting spirit c MJ ato. Mura sad ug super human preha ni Lance Armstrong. even na down na,ni barog gihapon...

  3. #483
    mas maayo pa mu-tanaw mo ani.

    YouTube - 2008 NBA FINALS: Kobe Bryant vs. Boston Celtics Zone Defense

    then kamo lang decide.

    kamo lang magkatawa.

    today's defense is weak? gimme a break.
    today's game is more on bad officiating if you ask me.

  4. #484
    kobe will surpass jordan soon!

  5. #485
    posible man. But lahi jud ang auro ni MJ.

  6. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by jiggy101 View Post
    You can never compare two greats, from two different generations. If MJ played today, he would be clobbered by the new NBA style of defense. MJ even tried to play again as a Wizard .Y'all know what a disaster that was. He was not only a disaster as a player but, also as a manager. That is always the character flaw of "winners", they don't know when to quit. Kobe's legacy is far from over. I am sure history will judge him well. Let's just hope that he knows when to quit, while he is still on top.


    Jiggy101
    jiggycerna@yahoo.com
    di man to disaster iya wizards stint oi, na pud gani xay nahimu na record ato..... kita mo atong all star game, one on one to sila kobe, kinsa lang na guwangan ato... haha

  7. #487
    Quote Originally Posted by awlandyan View Post
    di man to disaster iya wizards stint oi, na pud gani xay nahimu na record ato..... kita mo atong all star game, one on one to sila kobe, kinsa lang na guwangan ato... haha

    You obviously don't know how the story ended. Michael Jordan got fired from his management job and quit his player job too. Sad ending for a great player.


    Jiggy101

  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    mas maayo pa mu-tanaw mo ani.

    YouTube - 2008 NBA FINALS: Kobe Bryant vs. Boston Celtics Zone Defense

    then kamo lang decide.

    kamo lang magkatawa.

    today's defense is weak? gimme a break.
    today's game is more on bad officiating if you ask me.

    Pls. read up on your NBA rules and then make a comparison on how people defend today and how they defended during MJs time. YOutube does not show what the rules are.


    Jiggy101

  9. #489
    NBA's rule change
    for a smarter game

    Zone defense promises more strategy on the court

    By Elizabeth White Against the backdrop of all the hype that goes into sports marketing, a little thing like a change in the rules of the game might seem almost insignificant.
    But for the NBA the latest rule changes could be exactly what the league needs to reverse the decline in viewer interest.
    Last Thursday the league's board of governors removed the rules against illegal defenses.
    That means that for the first time in 50 years, or almost since the league began, NBA teams will be allowed to play what's known as a zone defense, in which defensive players guard areas of the court. The existing rules require a man-to-man defense, in which the player with the ball attempts to get past a defensive player assigned to him.
    That still may not seem significant to most people.
    But it means that the NBA considers making the game more exciting for the fans an important enough priority to change one of its oldest and quirkiest rules.
    "I think it's a step in the right direction, and it changes some things in the strategy," says Dean Luplow, vice president and media director at Starcom Worldwide. "It's a nice indication that the NBA is taking a hard look at the game and maybe taking a back-to-the-basics approach."
    The rule change also means that the NBA is willing to think outside the box.
    The zone defense is associated with lower scoring games and slower play, and allowing teams to use it seems almost counterintuitive for a sport already criticized for being too boring.
    Media folks tend to think that the new rule is a tradeoff. The game may become more exciting in the strategic sense, but it'll lose the big plays and one-on-one matchups that defined the NBA during its most recent heyday in the 1990s.
    "Most of the criticism that the NBA gets is that it's a superstar game and that there's no strategy involved," says Hadrian Shaw, sports analyst at Paul Kagan Associates. "But the NBA wants to develop superstars."
    "If [the NBA is] not happy with the product, then do it, do whatever it takes," says Shaw. "Right now, too many times you see players standing around. To get that out, you give up the scoring part. It all depends on the game you want to watch."
    And most media analysts think that what the audience really wants to watch is another Michael Jordan-style superstar.
    "Several changes will help, but the thing that will help the NBA the most is finding a new superstar," says Lynn Kahle, professor of marketing at the University of Oregon.
    Luplow agrees.
    "It's a star-driven league, and they're trying to develop some new stars," says Luplow. "And maybe these rule changes will help that.
    "The core of the game is still the same, it’s still the same players, this is just to tweak on the defense."
    The advantage of the one-on-one game is that it tends to produce high-scoring games with exciting plays, like slam dunks, when the player with the ball breaks free.
    The disadvantage is that you really have only two players in play, the man with the ball and his defensive player. The remaining players on both teams stand on the other side of the court, doing nothing.
    In a zone defense, each defensive player guards a section of the court, or a zone. That means that one defensive player can effectively cover two offensive players at the same time.

    That also means that it's much harder for the offense to score--and significantly harder to score close to the goal, as with the slam dunk.
    How that will look in the NBA is probably three players instead of just one around Shaquille O'Neal, making it more difficult for one of the Lakers' top scorers to even get the ball, much less score.
    At the same time, zone defense forces the offense to be more creative. So fans should see more movement and action on the television screen, even if the ball doesn't go up and down the court as much.
    "The idea that scoring baskets is the only way fans can enjoy basketball underestimates the intelligence of the fans," says Kahle. "They can enjoy the strategy.
    "The other side of the zone type defense is that it forces more outside shooting. And with more outside shooting, there'll be more missed shots, and missed shots can be exciting."
    Also, by opening up the options available to coaches, the zone defense should provide for more unpredictability in the game. Fans won't always know what's going to happen when a certain player gets the ball.
    "From a fan's point of view, it might drive some interest," says Shaw.
    "With the zone, big plays would be more rare. It'll put the emphasis back on shooters, which is a lost art in the NBA."

    can you say weak

  10. #490
    Thanks Groovestreet! I knew that they changed the rules that would make it more difficult for a player to dominate. Thanks for providing the Kobe Haters Evidence that MJs Airness would be deflated with the "New" rules in the NBA.


    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    NBA's rule change
    for a smarter game

    Zone defense promises more strategy on the court

    By Elizabeth White Against the backdrop of all the hype that goes into sports marketing, a little thing like a change in the rules of the game might seem almost insignificant.
    But for the NBA the latest rule changes could be exactly what the league needs to reverse the decline in viewer interest.
    Last Thursday the league's board of governors removed the rules against illegal defenses.
    That means that for the first time in 50 years, or almost since the league began, NBA teams will be allowed to play what's known as a zone defense, in which defensive players guard areas of the court. The existing rules require a man-to-man defense, in which the player with the ball attempts to get past a defensive player assigned to him.
    That still may not seem significant to most people.
    But it means that the NBA considers making the game more exciting for the fans an important enough priority to change one of its oldest and quirkiest rules.
    "I think it's a step in the right direction, and it changes some things in the strategy," says Dean Luplow, vice president and media director at Starcom Worldwide. "It's a nice indication that the NBA is taking a hard look at the game and maybe taking a back-to-the-basics approach."
    The rule change also means that the NBA is willing to think outside the box.
    The zone defense is associated with lower scoring games and slower play, and allowing teams to use it seems almost counterintuitive for a sport already criticized for being too boring.
    Media folks tend to think that the new rule is a tradeoff. The game may become more exciting in the strategic sense, but it'll lose the big plays and one-on-one matchups that defined the NBA during its most recent heyday in the 1990s.
    "Most of the criticism that the NBA gets is that it's a superstar game and that there's no strategy involved," says Hadrian Shaw, sports analyst at Paul Kagan Associates. "But the NBA wants to develop superstars."
    "If [the NBA is] not happy with the product, then do it, do whatever it takes," says Shaw. "Right now, too many times you see players standing around. To get that out, you give up the scoring part. It all depends on the game you want to watch."
    And most media analysts think that what the audience really wants to watch is another Michael Jordan-style superstar.
    "Several changes will help, but the thing that will help the NBA the most is finding a new superstar," says Lynn Kahle, professor of marketing at the University of Oregon.
    Luplow agrees.
    "It's a star-driven league, and they're trying to develop some new stars," says Luplow. "And maybe these rule changes will help that.
    "The core of the game is still the same, it’s still the same players, this is just to tweak on the defense."
    The advantage of the one-on-one game is that it tends to produce high-scoring games with exciting plays, like slam dunks, when the player with the ball breaks free.
    The disadvantage is that you really have only two players in play, the man with the ball and his defensive player. The remaining players on both teams stand on the other side of the court, doing nothing.
    In a zone defense, each defensive player guards a section of the court, or a zone. That means that one defensive player can effectively cover two offensive players at the same time.

    That also means that it's much harder for the offense to score--and significantly harder to score close to the goal, as with the slam dunk.
    How that will look in the NBA is probably three players instead of just one around Shaquille O'Neal, making it more difficult for one of the Lakers' top scorers to even get the ball, much less score.
    At the same time, zone defense forces the offense to be more creative. So fans should see more movement and action on the television screen, even if the ball doesn't go up and down the court as much.
    "The idea that scoring baskets is the only way fans can enjoy basketball underestimates the intelligence of the fans," says Kahle. "They can enjoy the strategy.
    "The other side of the zone type defense is that it forces more outside shooting. And with more outside shooting, there'll be more missed shots, and missed shots can be exciting."
    Also, by opening up the options available to coaches, the zone defense should provide for more unpredictability in the game. Fans won't always know what's going to happen when a certain player gets the ball.
    "From a fan's point of view, it might drive some interest," says Shaw.
    "With the zone, big plays would be more rare. It'll put the emphasis back on shooters, which is a lost art in the NBA."

    can you say weak

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