Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

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Hehehe bai ... sa akong opinion lang no .... bisan majority ang not enough grounds but naa gyud ni surfaced out na ENOUGH GROUNDS ... mo push through na oi ... her case is as serious as her responsibilities for the country.

but does majority of this congressman look at the grounds... they look at the ground for money. Kong wala to gi-dali2x og patay bai, wala ta kahibaw na dayon jud to... but again to be able to kill the impeachment ni sandig sila sa technicality.

I'll just cut n paste what you always says...

and why? what's your basis for this? '

and btw, wala man siguro gi-dali2x ug patay ang empeachment, there were a debates and votations...

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ngano magbuhat2x man sila og ilahang version kono nga that the real conversation is only between GMA and certain Gary. Tell me onsa ila purpose ani?

Â*Ngano man magbuhat buhat pod ug assumptions ang ANTI na ni CHEAT si PGMA to become our president ?

and why? what's your basis for this? and the opposition b4 is not after the power?

Â*AT that time .. the OPPOSITION is after the overhauling of the ADMIN ( ERAPS ) because of its incomptence as a leader . Not power grabbing ... karon na sitwasyon .. it is clearly understood na VENDETTA ang nahitabo because of a common thing link to ERAP .

Then it can applied to both... both have issues but no case, naa sab mga tao nga maka vouch sa authenticity sa issues pero wala lang sab gahom. Ang deperensiya lang sa duha... kay Lacson naa bot jud sa korte na hearing pero na dismissed. Pero kang GMA igo ra sa prosecutor og gi-dismiss tungod kay naa kono naka una og submit sa kaso, wala gi-dismiss kay kowang og ebidensiya.

DIli siya mo apply sa both because on PGMA side , accusations ra man . Sa side ni LACSON na manipulate man niya under ERAPS admin .

es majority of this congressman look at the grounds... they look at the ground for money. Kong wala to gi-dali2x og patay bai, wala ta kahibaw na dayon jud to... but again to be able to kill the impeachment ni sandig sila sa technicality.

Â*Because di na siya allowed sa korte ang TECHNICALITY . Its more nthan that also .... di sila mo scarifice kung ang mo puli ra pod diay is ERAPS shadows .

. kani imoha ron bai is pure tag-an2x. Kong naa issue nga bug-at mo gawas against niya nga makapalagpot og usa ka presidente, aw possibly. Mao bitaw naa ng impeachment bai para ang mga presidente mag tinarong.

Â*Pero wala lage IMPEACHMENT kay NAGTINARONG man ang presidente .

up i personally believe wala'y kwarta kaau ang opposition ron... kay kong naa pa, hagbay ra sila nakahakot og taw just like what they call EDSA III. If there accusations are baseless the issue won't last that long. And base sa ako gihatag nga rason ngano ni too ko nga si GMA is guilty of cheating. Tell me that it is baseless... one istoryan here ask me what are my basis, and I ask him if it was baseless, all he can say is "Ni ingon ba ko bai nga baseless" Now tell me is it baseless... care to talk why it is baseless?

Â*hehehe .. because wala man gani naka action ang taga MANILA na they are closer to reality , how much us na taga Cebu na we all gather infos from the MEDIA . MEDIA is baseless samotan ug ANTI PGMA na media atong storyahan .

Again dali ra kaau ni nila ingnon bai nga manufactured of dili si GMA og si Garci ang nagka-istorya bisan onsa pa na nga version, in fact Defensor tried that, but again he failed... this is one of the reason ngano naka ingon ko nga peke ni.

Â* Dali ra man sad kaau maka ingon ang OPPOSITION na nanikas si PGMA kay pilidihan man sila sab bai .

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OK di ka sa download na term , kadtong gipaminaw nimo sa website ?

You must be slow or something... I said I READ it off the PCIJ Blog. Not surprising that you can't understand even a simple sentence though.

Because I said first that you have comprehension problems makes u counter it " its beyond my capabilities ? " LOLZ .... you are clearly implying that ni jump ka sa conclusions . Di na authenticated ang tape but you are using it as a medium . Unlike you ... you understand statements LITERALLY .

Standard GMA brown-noser defense - "tape was not authenticated". GMA herself admitted to calling Garci, Garci flees to avoid being questioned under oath, GMA allies do everything possible to kill the impeachment complaint. Aren't you smart enough to put those things together? Don't answer that, clearly you're not.

LOLZ ... like you also knew what their reasons why they resign . And why are also the majority stayed ? Ayaw lage padala sa EMOTIONS nimo because you watch and listen to the media as a medium .

Maybe you don't read the news, or only read it if it's pro GMA. The "Hyatt 10" actually gave out a statement giving what I mentioned as one of the major reasons why they resigned.

And even if only one resigned and gave that as a reason... any one cabinet secretary, being part of GMA's official family, would be infinitely more qualified THAN YOU as to determine if GMA is an "effective leader". Than 10 of them resigned and gave that reason is just more telling.

I can take SARCASMS if it was meant as a SARCASM .. what you said was clear not . LITERAL na pagsabot ... just because I said TAE is vulgar makes you think , thats how I was brought up ? Heh pod ! Kasakit sa akong dughan .... gi ingnan ko ana LOLZ ! Ayaw lage pagkapa aron ingnon .

So, if YOU say what you say is sarcasm, and I say its not, you complain? But if I say something and mean it as sarcasm, you say it's literal? Got a dose of your own medicine eh?

As for bringing up "TAE" in conversation, to me it's not polite, it's rude and vulgar. Maybe to you and your family it's proper. Clearly we were brought up differently.

Hahaha ... like the SHOES for PGMA because wants to be elevated thats wh she said yung DAGDAG ? Pagka niom gyud dodong .

No comparison. I was highlighting the fact that it is ridiculous to think that "yung dagdag" and "pagpapataas" could mean anything else but cheating, i.e. it was ridiculous to assume that it was for "elevator shoes". You're the one with COMPREHENSION PROBLEMS!

LOLZ .. gi luod na ka ? How about calling someone a LAME DUCK ? Is that polite ? Unless mo think na pod ka na si PGMA naay FEATHERS ... get the drift ??

LAME DUCK can be used in polite conversation. "Eating TAE" should not be. There are millions of other phrases you could have used to make your point and remain polite. But maybe you have a limited vocabulary. Get the drift?

LOLZ .... ingna lang nabara^ ka ... why would you noy stoop down to my level when I dont know you and you dont know me ? Hahaha ..... ingna lang na kung ma corner ka ... AD HOMINEM dayon ka .... do what u need to do .... naa ra ko diri nagpahipi kaninyo tanan .

I had wanted to end this little debate with you as it's clear you're taking it too emotionally. But then you assume that it's because "you cornered me"... so....

I'm so GLAD I don't know you... if that's how you talk in person... I wouldn't want to know anyone so rude and vulgar. Do note that I have tried to remain polite to you even though you wouldn't give me that courtesy. Then again, maybe you just get too emotional when your beloved GMA gets attacked. And ako ma-corner by someone as foul-mouthed as you? You don't even show any sign of a good upbringing. Which is what I mean by not wanting to stoop down to your level. It's clear as day, I don't need to know you to conclude that you're not properly raised.

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You must be slow or something... I said I READ it off the PCIJ Blob. Not surprising that you can't understand even a simple sentence though, given your upbringing.

Now that is SARCAM ... and u figure it out incorrectly . WHo is SLOW now ? Ikaw pa ang ni gamit sa term na SARCAMS ? Why would you be more inclined sa NABASA nimo ? I would be more INCLINED sa unsay nadunggan nako kay proven man na si PGMA and GARCI ang mga voices didto . ANyone can write anything they want to . Sa tingog ... si TITAW GLOW ra man ang close to resemblance to the real one . AD HOMINEM .... tsk tsk tsk .... stick to the post and not the poster .

Standard GMA brown-noser defense - "tape was not authenticated". GMA herself admitted to calling Garci, Garci flees to avoid being questioned under oath, GMA allies do everything possible to kill the impeachment complaint. Aren't you smart enough to put those things together? Don't answer that, clearly you're not.

Havent u figure it out yet that what u said were mere SPECUALTIONS ? Yes those events happened but you dont know the exact details of the 4 W's . Ad Hominem .... tsk tsk tsk .... stick to the post and not to the poster .

Maybe you don't read the news, or only read it if it's pro GMA. The "Hyatt 10" actually gave out a statement giving what I mentioned as one of the major reasons why they resigned.

Â* And the MAJORITY who chose not to resign ? Is it that of a big deal na naay mo resign in the middle of a scandal ? Basin DAMAGE CONTROL .... pwede pa .

And even if only one resigned and gave that as a reason... any one cabinet secretary, being part of GMA's official family, would be infinitely more qualified THAN YOU as to determine if GMA is an "effective leader". Than 10 of them resigned and gave that reason is just more telling.

Â* Hehehe .... stick to the post and not the poster . And where are the MAJORITY right now ? Bisan immediate family pa na .... there lots of factors why it happened . So tell me now if SHE isnt a COMPETENT and EFFECTIVE leader . Tell me right now she isnt ... and WHY . By the way .... incompetent or not .... the topic isd asking who did more DAMAGE .... AFAIK .. she didnt as much as ERAP's .

So, if YOU say what you say is sarcasm, and I say its not, you complain? But if I say something and mean it as sarcasm, you say it's literal? Got a dose of your own medicine eh?

LOLZ ... because I told you that at first it was LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD by you then refers to it as SARCASM makes it an excuse ? Naay resita diha sa botika tambal sa ilaga na maayo kaua mo LUSOT ?? There were no SARCAMS from you ... you refered to it as SARCASMS untill I told you it was LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD .. syaro kaduha na nako gibalik .

Remember sa word na TAE ? LOLZ . Hahaha .... AD HOMINEM ... you dont even know me , mo personal na ka dayon ... as to what bai Tolstoi told me ... post here to have fun and not to get serious with it . Mo abot na man gud tawn ka sa pamilya bwahahaha .... basin kataw-an ka ra dodong .

No comparison. I was highlighting the fact that it is ridiculous to think that "yung dagdag" and "pagpapataas" could mean anything else but cheating, i.e. it was ridiculous to assume that it was for "elevator shoes". You're the one with COMPREHENSION PROBLEMS!

Â* Ayaw lage ug lusot . You were suggesting a JOKE that was countered with a JOKE then u refuse to accept it as a joke because you thought I was serious about it . Who has COMPRE ..... tsk tsk tsk AD HOMINEM . Faet nimo dodong ... kaw ra diay pwede mo komedya ??

LAME DUCK can be used in polite conversation. "Eating TAE" should not be. Get the drift?

Â* LOLZ ..... seryoso pod sa pagka raise sa family nimo oi .... that EATING TAE literally is bad . Face the world and face reality ... if you havent get the drift yet .... it was not meant to be LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD ... it is meant for you na unsay isulti mo tuo dayon ka bisan sa extreme conditions .... like eating TAE , LOLZ ! Now I spilled the beans for u .. syaro ka dodong .

I had wanted to end this little debate with you as it's clear you're taking it too emotionally. But then you assume that it's because "you cornered me"... so....

Â* That is not the point .... the point is KINSAY NA OFFEND because I used the word TAE ? Gi luod na ka diha ? Be a man ... ayaw na pod na sabta ug literally ha .

I'm so GLAD I don't know you... if that's how you talk in person... I wouldn't want to know anyone so rude and vulgar. Do note that I have tried to remain polite to you even though you wouldn't give me that courtesy. Again, maybe you just get too emotional when your beloved GMA gets attacked. And ako ma-corner by someone as foul-mouthed as you? You don't even show any sign of a good upbringing. Which is what I mean by not wanting to stoop down to your level. It's clear as day, I don't need to know you to conclude that you're not properly raised.

Â* LOLZ .... is that all u got ? I am not POLITE and VULGAR ? Like I said .... mura sad ug mga LIMPYO mo ug mga LOBOT ... ayaw na sabta ug literal ha basin ma offend na pod ka dayon mamasangil ka na VULGAR ko n di POLITE . LOLZ ......Â* dont brand me also as foul mouthed ... you havent heard me use the F word yet and wait till you hear it from me then ingna ko ug unsa ka bastos akong ba^ba^ LOLZ .

Â* Just because gi luod ka sa word na TAE .... hahahaha ..... it was ur basis of how I was brought up .. poor fellow , mura man tawn ka ug OPPOSITION ... puro accusations ... sakto gyud ... lame ducks have the same feathers . Mom ingon ko ug tanan TAE have the same stench .... ma offen na pod unya ka so I was a little " POLITE " karon .

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Now that is SARCAMS ... and u figure it out incorrectly . WHo is SLOW now ? Ikaw pa ang ni gamit sa term na SARCAMS ? Why would you be more inclined sa NABASA nimo ? I would be more INCLINED sa unsay nadunggan nako kay proven man na si PGMA and GARCI ang mga voices didto . ANyone can write anything they want to . Sa tingog ... si TITAW GLOW ra man ang close to resemblance to the real one . AD HOMINEM .... tsk tsk tsk .... stick to the post and not the poster .

I would think that the PCIJ is more credible than YOU.

Havent u figure it out yet that what u said were mere SPECUALTIONS ? Yes those events happened but you dont know the exact details of the 4 W's . Lupig pa man nimo ang MALACANANG EMPLOYEE . Ad Hominem .... tsk tsk tsk .... stick to the post and not to the poster .

I'm entitled to my opinion, same as you. I believe those events show that GMA cheated. If you don't, that's your opinion. But that doesn't make yoiur opinion any more important than mine. Get it?

And the MAJORITY who chose not to resign ? Is it that of a big deal na naay mo resign in the middle of a scandal ? Basin DAMAGE CONTROL .... pwede pa .

Well, you have a different view of them. I believe they are upright people who just couldn't stomach the direction GMA was headed. And GMA apparently believed in them too, after all, she appointed them! "DAMAGE CONTROL" probably fits better what the administration did to these people after they resigned.

Hehehe .... stick to the post and not the poster . And where are the MAJORITY right now ? Bisan immediate family pa na .... there lots of factors why it happened . So tell me now if SHE isnt a COMPETENT and EFFECTIVE leader . Tell me right now she isnt ... and WHY . By the way .... incompetent or not .... the topic isd asking who did more DAMAGE .... AFAIK .. she didnt as much as ERAP's .

She's not a competent and effective leader. She doesn't hold any lofty ideals but instead will do anything and everything to stay in power, including sacrificing the common good. She is a liar. She said she would not run (and on Rizal Day pa) but instead starts preparing for her election run by appointing a known dagdag bawas operator despite vehement objections.

She picked Noli as her VP, then her allies use the "Noli is incompetent" card to scare people who want her replaced. Her administration is rocked by scandals such as Venable and Northrail, and her response is to gag govt and military personnel to prevent the Senate from doing its constitutionally mandated oversight function. Those are just a few examples, I'm sure the other forum members can give more.

I started my posts here by replying to your assertion that the Garci and GMA conversation was no big deal. As for the topic... I am no supporter of Erap, I think the man was a fool and a disgrace to the Presidency. But at least the damage he did was cut short. GMA's is continuing.

And one more thing... no one can dispute that ERAP, bad as he was, was duly elected President, with the largest winning margin of any candidate in any Presidential election. GMA's election will always be under a cloud of doubt. And because of that, people will always find ways to try to weaken her. She should just do the honorable thing and resign. Heads of state in other countries have resigned for much less.

LOLZ ... because I told you that at first it was LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD by you then refers to it as SARCASM makes it an excuse ? Naay resita diha sa botika tambal sa ilaga na maayo kaua mo LUSOT ?? There were no SARCAMS from you ... you refered to it as SARCASMS untill I told you it was LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD .. syaro kaduha na nako gibalik .

Remember sa word na TAE ? LOLZ . Hahaha .... AD HOMINEM ... you dont even know me , mo personal na ka dayon ... as to what bai Tolstoi told me ... post here to have fun and not to get serious with it . Mo abot na man gud tawn ka sa pamilya bwahahaha .... basin kataw-an ka ra dodong .

Well... I wasn't being personal, I was merely stating that such a word didn't belong in polite conversation... kung na-igo ka, sorry. Just goes to show how your family raised you. Not your fault, I said. As for posting to have fun, do you have fun offending other people and being insensitive?

Ayaw lage ug lusot . You were suggesting a JOKE that was countered with a JOKE then u refuse to accept it as a joke because you thought I was serious about it . Who has COMPRE ..... tsk tsk tsk AD HOMINEM . Faet nimo dodong ... kaw ra diay pwede mo komedya ??

So you admit it's ridiculous to think that "yung dagdag" and "pagpapataas" could mean anything but cheating? I was stating an example of a ridulous explanation for what was on the tape. You gave an even more ridiculous example. In other words, you sidestepped the issue which was what GMA and Garci meant by what was said on the tape

LOLZ ..... seryoso pod sa pagka raise sa family nimo oi .... that EATING TAE literally is bad . Face the world and face reality ... if you havent get the drift yet .... it was not meant to be LITERALLY UNDERSTOOD ... it is meant for you na unsay isulti mo tuo dayon ka bisan sa extreme conditions .... like eating TAE , LOLZ ! Now I spilled the beans for u .. syaro ka dodong .

I understand perfectly your point.... what YOU don't understand is my point. Let me state it again, hopefully you'll understand this time: "There are a million other phrases you could have used to make your point and remain polite". Your selection of terms speaks for itself.

That is not the point .... the point is KINSAY NA OFFEND because I used the word TAE ? Gi luod na ka diha ? Be a man ... ayaw na pod na sabta ug literally ha .

So you honestly think that term isn't offensive? I'm not surprised. Remember this is a public forum with many people viewing it at ALL times... you should learn to be more polite and sensitive to other people. Then again, if thats how you talk in person... can't blame you for that.

LOLZ .... is that all u got ? I am not POLITE and VULGAR ? Like I said .... mura sad ug mga LIMPYO mo ug mga LOBOT ... ayaw na sabta ug literal ha basin ma offend na pod ka dayon mamasangil ka na VULGAR ko n di POLITE . LOLZ ...... dont brand me also as foul mouthed ... you havent heard me use the F word yet and wait till you hear it from me then ingna ko ug unsa ka bastos akong ba^ba^ LOLZ .

So only the "F" word is foul-mouthed to you? Again, I'm not surprised to see that you don't think your terms are rude and improper.

Call me a prude, but I believe people should remain polite in a public forum. If you think your terms are proper in this forum... well, like I said, that just goes to show what kind of upbringing you had.

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Ngano man magbuhat buhat pod ug assumptions ang ANTI na ni CHEAT si PGMA to become our president ?

please answere sa akong pangotana b4 ko ni answeron.

AT that time .. the OPPOSITION is after the overhauling of the ADMIN ( ERAPS ) because of its incomptence as a leader . Not power grabbing ... karon na sitwasyon .. it is clearly understood na VENDETTA ang nahitabo because of a common thing link to ERAP.

but if ERAP did not commit those things charge against him... dili jud to siya mapalagpot. again ang sayop sa presidente maoy maka-palagpot dili ang iyang pagka incompetent.

DIli siya mo apply sa both because on PGMA side , accusations ra man . Sa side ni LACSON na manipulate man niya under ERAPS admin .

og ngano dili man bai? tungod kay ang pag manipulate ni GMA sa congressman kay speculations ra... og pag manipulate ni Lacson sa panahon ni ERAP kay dili speculation?

hehehe .. because wala man gani naka action ang taga MANILA na they are closer to reality , how much us na taga Cebu na we all gather infos from the MEDIA . MEDIA is baseless samotan ug ANTI PGMA na media atong storyahan .

hahaha... kon ANTI GMA dili katoohan kong PRO GMA kay katoohan... pro BiaS.

Pero wala lage IMPEACHMENT kay NAGTINARONG man ang presidente .

to the eyes of the GMA supporter a big YES...

Dali ra man sad kaau maka ingon ang OPPOSITION na nanikas si PGMA kay pilidihan man sila sab bai.

of kors.. if administration didn't try to hard and failed to prove that the tape is not authenticate I could have doubt its content.

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I would think that the PCIJ is more credible than YOU.

Wala man ko ni ARGUE who is who ... we are discussing about LOGIC and SOURCES na mo make sense .Asa ka ? Sa nabasa or nadunggan ?

I'm entitled to my opinion, same as you. I believe those events show that GMA cheated. If you don't, that's your opinion. But that doesn't make yoiur opinion any more important than mine. Get it?

And so are ur towards mine . Recoprocal ra na siya . You are nobody also in these field because sama sa name sa forum , ISTORYA.net ra ni .

Well, you have a different view of them. I believe they are upright people who just couldn't stomach the direction GMA was headed. And GMA apparently believed in them too, after all, she appointed them! "DAMAGE CONTROL" probably fits better what the administration did to these people after they resigned.

Naa pa diay ingon ana klaeshang mga tao ni exist karon panahuna who are UPRIGHT PEOPLE WHO CANT STOMACH THE DIRECTION of PGMA ? Like u said imoha ra pod na ... what I think is not. Usa ra ang color ana nila .

She's not a competent and effective leader. She doesn't hold any lofty ideals but instead will do anything and everything to stay in power, including sacrificing the common good. She is a liar. She said she would not run (and on Rizal Day pa) but instead starts preparing for her election run by appointing a known dagdag bawas operator despite vehement objections.

Becxause she figures out she needs to because she is the only capable one to do it . Just because she said she is not gonna run makes her a LIAR ? Hahaha .... she has left without a choice but to break it .

She picked Noli as her VP, then her allies use the "Noli is incompetent" card to scare people who want her replaced. Her administration is rocked by scandals such as Venable and Northrail, and her response is to gag govt and military personnel to prevent the Senate from doing its constitutionally mandated oversight function. Those are just a few examples, I'm sure the other forum members can give more.

Of course other forum members can give their insight about it .. the ANTI PGMA iSTORYANS that is . Naa man gani scandal sa Bacolod ... kana na ba na KWARTA ang na involved .

I started my posts here by replying to your assertion that the Garci and GMA conversation was no big deal. As for the topic... I am no supporter of Erap, I think the man was a fool and a disgrace to the Presidency. But at least the damage he did was cut short. GMA's is continuing.

Good for you to realized thats how it all started before you started attacking the poster instead of the post's . Hagbay ra lage unta na preso and na impeach si PGMA .... technicality or not kung ni padayon siya sa gibuhat ni ERAP .

And one more thing... no one can dispute that ERAP, bad as he was, was duly elected President, with the largest winning margin of any candidate in any Presidential election. GMA's election will always be under a cloud of doubt. And because of that, people will always find ways to try to weaken her. She should just do the honorable thing and resign. Heads of state in other countries have resigned for much less.

So you are implying that PGMA cheated . I myself did not know also if she cheated or not .... but you are so sure of the accusations u made so prove it . PCIJ na pod because they are more credible than me ?LOLZ !

Well... I wasn't being personal, I was merely stating that such a word didn't belong in polite conversation... kung na-igo ka, sorry. Just goes to show how your family raised you. Not your fault, I said. As for posting to have fun, do you have fun offending other people and being insensitive?

Ah ic .... so ikaw ang NAIGO ? Kay I was referring eating TAE to u . Nisabot lang ka LITERALLY mao na offend ka . Wala diay ka napadako sa imong ginikanan na mo sabot sa mga sultion na di literal na pagsabot . I never offended people unless provoke ... unless u take it offensively kay LITERAL na pagsabot nimo .

So you admit it's ridiculous to think that "yung dagdag" and "pagpapataas" could mean anything but cheating? I was stating an example of a ridulous explanation for what was on the tape. You gave an even more ridiculous example. In other words, you sidestepped the issue which was what GMA and Garci meant by what was said on the tape.

I think urs is the RIDICULOUS one . Go check ur PCIJ once again and double check it for urself .

I understand perfectly your point.... what YOU don't understand is my point. Let me state it again, hopefully you'll understand this time: "There are a million other phrases you could have used to make your point and remain polite". Your selection of terms speaks for itself.

That TAE is VULGAR and POLITE ? Unsa angay i substitute nato ana ??

So you honestly think that term isn't offensive? I'm not surprised. Remember this is a public forum with many people viewing it at ALL times... you should learn to be more polite and sensitive to other people. Then again, if thats how you talk in person... can't blame you for that.

Nope it is not offensive .... PUBLIC or PRIVATE . I didnt violate , discriminate nor downgraded someone kung sabton lang nimo ug heartily . Gipahaba na man gud nimo na ang TAE makaon gyud diay mao vulgar n di siya polite . Sentido Komon na lang unta ... ang TAE dili makaon .

So only the "F" word is foul-mouthed to you? Again, I'm not surprised to see that you don't think your terms are rude and improper.

Hahahaha .. be more smarter than that . Saying the word TAE is being FOUL ? Again sabta ako gisulti LITERALLY ? Ngano di man niom madawat na LITERAL ka mo sabot ?? Kung gusto ba lage ka ug mag foulmouthing ko .... you havent heard me yet .

Call me a prude, but I believe people should remain polite in a public forum. If you think your terms are proper in this forum... well, like I said, that just goes to show what kind of upbringing you had.

Hahahaha .. it clearly states that gi seryoso n personal na nimo . Unsay connection sa UPBRINGING in forums when for a fact walay VULGAR and UNPOLITENESS nahitabo ?? UNderstanding LITERALLY ... word for word daghan kaau nuon .

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please answere sa akong pangotana b4 ko ni answeron.

It may be so weird but my opipnion dictates ... is BUNYE PGMA ?

but if ERAP did not commit those things charge against him... dili jud to siya mapalagpot. again ang sayop sa presidente maoy maka-palagpot dili ang iyang pagka incompetent.

Mao lage .. so hagbay ra unta napalagpot si PGMA pod .

og ngano dili man bai? tungod kay ang pag manipulate ni GMA sa congressman kay speculations ra... og pag manipulate ni Lacson sa panahon ni ERAP kay dili speculation?

Of course ... clear pa kaau na sa tubig sa bottled mineral water bai . LACSON kay tuta na ni ERAP . Alangan ug prisohon niya ang tao na maoy makatabang or nakatabang niya .

hahaha... kon ANTI GMA dili katoohan kong PRO GMA kay katoohan... pro BiaS.

Reciprocal di ba ? Mo banda ra man na .. bottomline is , ang ANTI wala naka PALAGPOT ni PGMA so ang BIAS na term is out of the picture na .

to the eyes of the GMA supporter a big YES...

Of course kitang mga PINOY and PINAY mga chismoso n chismoa man ta . Balitang hangin ba ... favorite pastime nato .

of kors.. if administration didn't try to hard and failed to prove that the tape is not authenticate I could have doubt its content.

Because the OPPOSITION is the source . Unsay reason why those tapes existed ? A stepping stone for the opposition ?

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Wala man ko ni ARGUE who is who ... we are discussing about LOGIC and SOURCES na mo make sense .Asa ka ? Sa nabasa or nadunggan ?

First you say that the tape is not credible, then you say that mas credible ang nadunggan nimo kesa sa transcript sa PCIJ?

Naa pa diay ingon ana klaeshang mga tao ni exist karon panahuna who are UPRIGHT PEOPLE WHO CANT STOMACH THE DIRECTION of PGMA ? Like u said imoha ra pod na ... what I think is not. Usa ra ang color ana nila .

Huh? So you don't think it's possible to be upright and be anti-GMA? That explains a lot. FYI, GMA is not the epitome of righteousness... Far from it.

Becxause she figures out she needs to because she is the only capable one to do it . Just because she said she is not gonna run makes her a LIAR ? Hahaha .... she has left without a choice but to break it .

Look up what lying means in the dictionary. When you say one thing and do another, thats lying. And how presumptous of her (and her supporters like you) to assume that she's the only one capable. There are 70+ million Filipinos, she thinks she's the only one qualified?

Of course other forum members can give their insight about it .. the ANTI PGMA iSTORYANS that is . Naa man gani scandal sa Bacolod ... kana na ba na KWARTA ang na involved .

Again sidestepping the issue. Why pick Noli and then use him to "scare" other people who want GMA replaced? Isn't that hypocrisy and pragmatism at its worst?

Good for you to realized thats how it all started before you started attacking the poster instead of the post's . Hagbay ra lage unta na preso and na impeach si PGMA .... technicality or not kung ni padayon siya sa gibuhat ni ERAP .

I didn't say she continued what Erap did. I said she cheated in the elections, and as a result is vulnerable to all the flak she's been getting. The most honorable thing for her to do, and the best course for our country, is for her to resign so the Presidency will not be tarnished.

So you are implying that PGMA cheated . I myself did not know also if she cheated or not .... but you are so sure of the accusations u made so prove it . PCIJ na pod because they are more credible than me ?LOLZ !

Whether she cheated or not, the tape (corroborated by the testimony of the marine officers), the accounts from her own former cabinet secretaries of her administration's actions, the killing of the impeachment complaint... all point to a rotten administration. I for one believe she cheated, and surveys such as those conducted by the SWS recently, showed that majority of Filipinos believe so too. Again, heads of states in other countries have resigned for much less.

.. so ikaw ang NAIGO ? Kay I was referring eating TAE to u . Nisabot lang ka LITERALLY mao na offend ka . Wala diay ka napadako sa imong ginikanan na mo sabot sa mga sultion na di literal na pagsabot . I never offended people unless provoke ... unless u take it offensively kay LITERAL na pagsabot nimo .

Why keep bringing up the "literal meaning" card ad infinitum? Like I said it doesn't matter if you meant it literally or not. It's simply not a word to use in polite conversation.

I think urs is the RIDICULOUS one . Go check ur PCIJ once again and double check it for urself .

So your assertion that what GMA meant by "yung dagdag yung dagdag" and what Garci meant by "pagapapataas" is to add votes to FPJ and Lacson to make it more challenging, isn't ridiculous?

That TAE is VULGAR and POLITE ? Unsa angay i substitute nato ana ??

Haay... to enrich your limited vocabulary... you could have meant the same thing, WITHOUT OFFENDING ANYONE, by saying something like "if someone says jump off a cliff, you'd jump"?

Nope it is not offensive .... PUBLIC or PRIVATE . I didnt violate , discriminate nor downgraded someone kung sabton lang nimo ug heartily . Gipahaba na man gud nimo na ang TAE makaon gyud diay mao vulgar n di siya polite . Sentido Komon na lang unta ... ang TAE dili makaon .

Again, see above for an example of a phrase that means the same thing, WITHOUT OFFENDING SENSIBILITIES. Maybe you just don't have any grasp of the idea of being civil and polite in a forum. Like I said earlier... look up "netiquette".

Hahahaha .. be more smarter than that . Saying the word TAE is being FOUL ? Again sabta ako gisulti LITERALLY ? Ngano di man niom madawat na LITERAL ka mo sabot ?? Kung gusto ba lage ka ug mag foulmouthing ko .... you havent heard me yet .

Again, see above.

Hahahaha .. it clearly states that gi seryoso n personal na nimo . Unsay connection sa UPBRINGING in forums when for a fact walay VULGAR and UNPOLITENESS nahitabo ?? UNderstanding LITERALLY ... word for word daghan kaau nuon .

Let me spell it out for you since you seem to be slow... if you were brought up correctly (unfortunately you were not), you would know that it;s rude and vulgr to talk about feces in a public forum where there are other much more acceptable and sensible ways of communicating the same point.

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Bai bfg9000, debating with a poster like springfield is just a waste of your time. Lisud pasabton bay. Mag tuyok tuyok ra na siya nya way tunong ba. And when you read his logic, pastilan ni kapirangot wala gyud.

Kung wa pa mag cheat si GMA, where is Garcillano.

Kung wa pa mag cheat si GMA, nganong nag I am sorry man siya.

Kung wa pa mag cheat si GMA, ngano nawala man mga balota sa Congress.

Mas maayo pa bfg kita na lang ang mag discuss.