ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

[obemon]

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ROTC: Is it really still relevant with todays kids?


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[jcdiaz]

ok!!!
mas kailangan ang mga ROTC cadets or officers dito sa Lanao.Malapit na ma full-out lahat ng detachment ng marines sa bundok dito... Mas kinakailangan ng maraming Reserve dito lalo na ngayon at red alert. di kasi ma isip ang preparedness ng ibang tao. if di nila maka experience kung ano nangyari dito..lalo na yung nasa mga malalaking cities.
kulang pa ng maraming ROTC voluntrs para mag join sa stand by ready reserve bat...

[BaDBoY]

ok!!!
mas kailangan ang mga ROTC cadets or officers dito sa Lanao.Malapit na ma full-out lahat ng detachment ng marines sa bundok dito... Mas kinakailangan ng maraming Reserve dito lalo na ngayon at red alert. di kasi ma isip ang preparedness ng ibang tao. if di nila maka experience kung ano nangyari dito..lalo na yung nasa mga malalaking cities.
kulang pa ng maraming ROTC voluntrs para mag join sa stand by ready reserve bat...

hmmmmm

[radiostar]

ROTC restoration opposed
The decreasing number of students that enroll in the Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC) program has prompted renewed efforts to once again make it mandatory. House Bill 309, seeking to repeal Republic Act 9163 (NSTP Act of 2001), has been filed before the House Committee on National Defense by Rep. Eduardo Gullas of Cebu -- a move hailed by no less than Defense Secretary Gilberto Teodoro.

What Teodoro fails to recognize is the fact that we students are expressing our opposition to the ROTC by preferring to enroll in its alternatives, such as the Civic Welfare Training Service (CWTS) under the National Service Training Program (NSTP). Gullas filed a bill without even consulting a key stakeholder in the issue, which is us, the students.

Although not yet perfect -- which is understandable considering that it has been institutionalized less than a decade ago -- the CWTS has taught us more and has made us more productive citizens than we possibly could ever have been, had we chosen the ROTC program instead. We prefer to teach poor children or build houses for the homeless than do push-ups and march around campus. The CWTS has also exposed us to the harsh realities and persistent problems that plague our fellow Filipinos: massive poverty, inaccessible education, social injustice.

We ask, what can we learn from the ROTC? It only teaches us the use of violence against our classmates. It claims to instill “discipline,” but that discipline merely stems from fear. It makes students docile, subservient, even uncritical -- consider the ROTC dogma, “Obey first before you complain.” We also have confirmed reports that the ROTC program is being used by the Armed Forces of the Philippines to recruit students to its Student Intelligence Network, which spies on the members and activities of progressive and nationalist groups.

The government, hell-bent on requiring us to enroll in the ROTC and forcing us to undergo public humiliation, excessive physical punishment and other characteristics that have defined the ROTC program, seems to have forgotten that there was once a Mark Chua who died mercilessly at the hands of his officers for exposing widespread corruption in his university’s ROTC program. We do not want another Mark Chua.

Teodoro claims that the decreasing number of reserve officers in the country is cause for alarm, saying it has “serious ramifications in assuring our national security and stability.” But we believe otherwise. We do not want to become “cannon fodders” in the unjust wars being waged by our government against the people. We do not want to become part of an establishment that is being used by the government to spy on organizations, the members of which are our classmates and friends. We do not want to be reserve officers of a military that is being used to claim the lives of activists and civilians whose only crime is to fight for their rights.

If the government is going to push through with the aforementioned proposal, we students pledge to oppose it with the same, if not greater force, than that used in 2001 to abolish the ROTC.

[yokam]

I was a freshmen in 2001. It was the time nga nagkagubot ang ROTC. I could even remember one time nga di mi pagawason sa UP one time kay daghan kaayo nagrally sa gawas, and I think the officers know that most of the students will really join the rally once pagawason mi.hehe. I only took ROTC in the first sem kay gitangtang na pag second sem. Those were the days.hehe

Anyway, I guess ROTC really went way out of hand during the later part. In the first place, why should they restore it that naa pa man ROTC karon (if I'm not mistaken)? They mean restore it in a sense nga compulsory na pud? Personally, ok lang, as long as it would really serve it's intended purpose, minus the hazing and the corruption. I might even enroll again kung klaro gyud ang training. .

For one sem nga nag-ROTC ko, all we did was march and listen to the commandants and officers talking about how "good" they are, mogawas ang hambog once in the field. And what's so ironic is that once naa na sa school campus, pwerte diay'ng talawana. . Ang tarog lang gyud nga naagian nako sa ROTC is when we were shown and taught how to assemble and disassemble an M16 rifle.

[ichor_82283]

On the thread posted by radiostar:

Queries:

1. ROTC wasn't abolished right? It was one of the options that students may choose. The LTS, ROTC,CWTS was the three choices under NSTP students may choose. However, I am not updated.

2. ROTC alone? and no other option?

I will be one of the many who will oppose the restoration of ROTC as mandatory.
I have reasons myself which I gained from my two-year experience in ROTC.

1. The value of patriotism is misplaced among the many reasons why ROTC stands till now. Let these ROTC officers sing the national anthem, or probe their sense of patriotism...You can't get a sensible reason. Many of them choose to become officers for scholarship grants and a only a few of the few choose to be patriot.

2. I partly agree nga it promotes violence and BULLYING! This ROTC fertilizes BULLYING, I am certain of that. Discipline should not be academically and morally confused with BULLYING!

3. DISCRIMINATION. Look at the gays, they aren't treated well. Unsay gipabuhat? Sell itlog/eggs with make-up under the sun! Worse scenario, if mag-uwan pa shagiton ug tuda! Unsa na nga klase?

4. Made as a venue of business, business as in buy and sell with aid of undue influence.

5. A total loss of money. On the part of the school and the students. hala beh, i-defend: of all the sundays that the ROTC is being held, pila ka sundays ang naay lecture nga sensible? pila ka sundays nga naay sinagpaay, pagpa-numbag sa mga disiplina kunohay (kuwangan guru sila disiplina sa ginikanan), pagpang-bully?, pagpang-discriminate? Tubag!

I am an opposition to this move.

[LytSlpr]

without corruption, ROTC should be restored for all the right reasons.

excuse me for saying this but tan-awa ra gud intawn ng majority sa mga batan-on karon sa "playstation generation" mga sakto na man unta na sa edad pero wala gihapon mga buot. if their parents cannot instill discipline and sense of patriotism within them probably the ROTC will.

maayo man unta ning ROTC basta di lang sad himuon ug gatasan sa mga military ang mga estudyante.

[yokam]

ROTC is a good place to have those egos busted, but sometimes, the commandants and the commanding student officers go too far. They are superior in rank but that doesn't give them the right to insult and humiliate others in public, especially for very unnecessary and for no reason at all. The problem is that, setting aside corruption, most of the people who's got rank in ROTC tend to be abusive, mga hambugero especially when they're on the field.

They have to take note that they're handling students and not soldiers.

[r0mm3L]

no to ROTC

i rather stay at home during sundays and study my lessons than wasting time under the heat of the sun

[rockrhyan1982]

i remember those abussive and corrupt ROTC officers before who are very demanding..i was assign at transpo group..so may toyota revo will be used for special events..there was one time after our saturday formation...one of my officer approached me that he will use my car. he told me that he will drive the commandant home since guba iya car and i will just wait to a certain area kay did2 niya i-uli..sus naabtan nlng kog alas 10 sa gabii wa ghapon..gitawagan nako but unreachable cya..kuyawan nako..mao 2, pag morning na niya gi-uli...nakadungog lng ko nga gigamit ako car sa ila inom and wa tubili..lagot kaau ko..mao 2 pag graduate nako ug ROTC, ako gipabirahan ang office sa ako maguwang nga AKHRO..hilak2x gud..