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  1. #471

    Quote Originally Posted by redemption32 View Post
    I did not actually hear the ENTIRE HOMILY of the ARCHBISHOP. For the record, I base my opinions on the article I've read.
    I am not actually pointing fingers to you but in your case also , you have CONVICTIONS already about the ARCHBISHOP of CEBU where you rooted your opinions and direct it as a CERTAINTY already which is very very WRONG.

    No shame on that.
    There is shame on that because you are basing it on what you read , not on what you know. For the record , those who who belongs to the faithfuls who KNEW and HEARD of the HOMILY, will definitely react and get irritated because it is not what was brought to the table . I dont even know why they are not doing anything because it was a poor reporting on the side of the article.

    Some people here also base their opinions on a book they read, or what someone has said.
    If we have read the entire homily, one would then also counter: "Did you ACTUALLY know what he meant??".
    So, there's no winning here.
    It does not take a rocket scientist either to know what was delivered . Sama sa how you guys delivered such reactions because mao ang ACTUALITY sa gi mean sa article na gi grasp ninyo.

    From what I know, speaking out one's mind-- whether right or wrong doesn't merit a chili on the mouth.
    Unless you start saying ARCHBISHOP PALMA is an IDIOT , a HYPOCRITE , etc . Do you have that right ? Or anyone else ? Gi BUGUAN na lang gyud mo sa ARSOBISPO kay ta-aw ninyo mas kamao mo niya ? Lets all get real here . I know this is iSTORYA .net , words are hurled across even on a global scale but it is just plain wrong and I do hope you get my point here.

    Or in our case, the fingers, since we are just typing, after all..
    True to that .... but for humility sake , we should be careful on what we say because regardless of our hidden usernames and nicks here , someone , somewhere out there knows us personally and we have that what we call , INTEGRITY to protect because if we are TACTLESS in writen form , a big chance also follows in oral form .

    But then again , this is the cyberworld. So we will abide with RULES and REGULATIONS , kay if I was only an asshole like I used to be , nangahurot na unta mga tao diri ka MUTE or BAN because of INFRACTIONS .

    Just take note lang that the statements was intended for the general audience and not specifically to you but I answered it in a manner out of your statements lang pod.

    @RAISSAH ....

    is it worth listening to?

    I even hope nobody listened to that crappy homility. Nothing against catholics though.
    Reciprocal ra man na . Was the article worth reading also that it gets to your nerves man gyud na to a point maka sulti ka ug OPLOK ni mga RCC ?
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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    "Lihuk tawo kay tabangan tika."

    Ang dakong pangutana kay kung mag sge ug himo ug mga anak, kinsa man ang mo tabang kung walay tarong trabaho ang ginikanan? Ang simbahan ba nga ga ayo lang ang pangulekta kada misa? Tax free pa?

  3. #473
    Quote Originally Posted by oisilener1982 View Post
    Monday, January 21, 2013

    WITH the celebration of the feast of the Sto. Niño yesterday, Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma encouraged couples who want to have more children to do so, even with the recent passage of the Reproductive Health (RH) Law.

    In his homily in the Pontifical Mass for the feast of the Sto. Niño yesterday, Palma reminded churchgoers that children, like Cebu’s patron, are considered as objects of love that create joy wherever they are.

    In reference to the RH Law, Palma said that even if President Benigno Aquino III passed the law, couples should not be afraid if they want more children.

    “Bisan pa ug giaprobahan ang RH Bill, kadtung gusting manganak dili lamang usa, dili lamang duha pero tulo o upat, musalig lang kita kay Lord (Even with the passage of the RH Law, those who want to have children, not just one, not two but three or four, should put their trust in the Lord),” he added.

    Palma said he is sure that many couples have more than one child and live happy lives together.

    He said he was glad that the Philippines remains to be family oriented, even though some countries are promoting a one-child policy.
    In fairness to the above quote, I see nothing wrong with it though I am pro-RH Law. However, there is one thing that I would not agree. Though he did not attack the RH law, he was making an insinuation that it is something to be afraid of in the first place and his homily was meant to reassure everybody. What many people do not understand or do not try to understand is that the RH law was meant for anyone who would like to make a CHOICE. It is not something that is forcibly enforced to everyone (unlike the one child policy of China). The law simply aims to those people who wants to determine the size of their family in accordance with their capability. Many would say its against God's law. Yes, it might be but it is also against God's law if you go against the government. Any law of the land as long as it will not suppress or control anybody's religious belief or faith is still a valid law and in no way it is a deterrent to society.

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    I would suggest to everyone to be sober on their posts and never engage in name calling

  5. #475
    the way archbishop palma made his statements was somehow PASAGAD

    he should have expounded by saying na, wai makapugong kung pila imong anak basta unta mindful sa ways and means and estado sa kinabuhi sa manag-asawa. unsaon man nang magsalig sa Ginoo pero gapatuyang ka diha ug anak nya di nimo halos matagad imo responsibilidad sa ila, di ba dako nang SALA.

    i have nothing against padaghan ug anak. pero unta di lang unta na ang CENTRO sa panag-asawa. dapat unta RESPONSIBILITY ang mag una sa mga tawng gusto musu-ong sa pagminyo.

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    Unsa jud kahay tinood aning about rh bill nga big issue kaayo sa Pinoy priestsnga sa US di pa daw na person ang fetus

    Lawyers for Catholic hospital argue that a fetus is not a person - CNN.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by burn777 View Post
    Unsa jud kahay tinood aning about rh bill nga big issue kaayo sa Pinoy priestsnga sa US di pa daw na person ang fetus

    Lawyers for Catholic hospital argue that a fetus is not a person - CNN.com
    Mo ingon dayon ning mga Catholics and christians , lahi daw ang "law of god" ug ang "law of man" . Pero kusog kaayo mag apil2x ang mga pari sa mga political affairs . Toinks !

    Tan-awa ra , kusog kaayo mo sibya sa kadaghanan nga human na daw ang fetus ... until MONEY is involved .

    Kahibaw na ko sa mga ilad ani nila . Ayyyy nalang ! Pfffft ...

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    dapat maghinay jud sa words na gamiton, kay malahi nya og interpret sa uban

  9. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by ghostie2472 View Post
    "Lihuk tawo kay tabangan tika."

    Ang dakong pangutana kay kung mag sge ug himo ug mga anak, kinsa man ang mo tabang kung walay tarong trabaho ang ginikanan? Ang simbahan ba nga ga ayo lang ang pangulekta kada misa? Tax free pa?
    Sure ka ani ? Kay if di ka sure , bati baya paminawn ang accusations nimo. Ang mo tabang sa ginikanan ? Instea dna CONDOM ang ihatag sa GOBYERNO , LIBRO man unta di ba ? Maong nahimong cycle unya gi scapegoat ang OVERPOPULATION when in fact CORRUPTION ang issue.

    @LIKYAM ....

    Unless didto ka sa HOLY MASS when the actual HOMILY was delivered , your statements are valid. Other than that , its the HOMILY of the reporter of SUNSTAR ang gipasabot nimo na NAGPASAGAD.

    @BURN777 ....

    Ni sulti ang mga RCC priest sa US na wala pa LIFE ang FETUS ? or ang LAWYERS sa establishment referring to the law that was observed definition wise sa state ?

    @FAQ ....

    Wala gihapon ka nausab sa GENERALIZATION nimo tungod kay PRE PROGRAMMED ang HATRED nimo sa RCC . Wala koy mahimo ana but what you can do also is keep it to your self if its not CONSTRUCTIVE but rather CHISMIS kay di man na maayo . You havent even looked at yourself in the first place kung tan-aw nimo wala pod ka nasayop .

    Prove me wrong though if kakita ko nimo ni PRAISE sa RCC because of the GOOD WORKS according to the TEACHINGS maski ka isa lang .
    Last edited by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40; 01-26-2013 at 10:15 PM.
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    wa may problema daghan anak basta maka supporta lang ang naka paet kay cge himo bata nya walay ikasupporta... na unsa...

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