MERGED: CHINA: Next Superpower?

[jangska]

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ahaha. advance man pud kaayo ang thinking sa mga tao diri. abot naman ang nukes. tanan dagko na nasod naa tngae nay gi tagoan nga special weapon for war di lang ang us bisag naa pana silay sabot.
for me in my own point of view kaning mga leaders sa nasod kusog kaayo mo psywar naghuna2 kaha ni sila kung ganahan ba jud ug war ang mga tao? ilaha ramang interest ilang gusto.

[monroy]

There's a difference between occupation and annexation. China only wants the Spratlys, it doesn't want the entire country. It's almost certain that the U.S. will help us if China invades to occupy the entire country. What's doubtful is whether they will interfere in a minor battle for Spratlys as its not even certain how much if any oil is in that area.

A loss whether political or absolute is still a loss. I don't think anyone could honestly say that the American public will tolerate another war, much less one with China. Their economy is in such shambles right now, another Iraq-style war would wreck their country, and this is China we are talking about not Iraq, they won't fall in a day or even a year. Also the days when the U.S. could accept hundreds of thousands of casualties like they suffered in Vietnam and WWII are long past. They have no stomach for huge casualties, even of the scale they experienced in Iraq. And there's no way they will allow the draft to take place again without widespread rioting. America is a different country now than it was before, it's weaker has less political will and most importantly has a citizenry that is averse to war.

The days when large, powerful countries fight against each other are also behind us. That's why we have the U.N. because the world realized after WWII that disputes need to be settled diplomatically at all costs and problems have to be solved before they escalate into bigger ones. A minor battle between countries is not going to be allowed to escalate into a world war between U.S. and China.

[Soul Doctor]

Mao ni gitawag og Art of War.
Actually dugay rang gaplano ang China moinvade sa Phil.
In art of war you have to win the war first before you declare war.

Hinayhinay osa ta sa China og cripple.

Ask yourself:

1.)Nganung naa man tay communist party of the Phils?
Muslim fundamentalist ba diay ga support nila.
Kinsa may communist? China di ba?
Kining mga rebelde, activist nga nagsigeg pasopaso sa treets, kinsa may nagsupport nila financially?
dili man ni muslim or arabs. communists ni sila.

China is secretly financing military group thru jose marie Sison.
This is to keep the military busy and to keep our economy down.
mas problemado ang security sa nasod mas dili makaattract og foreign investments.
Mas dugay o lisod pagdevelop ang nasod. mas pobre mas sayon pildihon sa gubat.

2.) Nganung target man sa mga communist party or leftist group ang america.?
Tungod kay ang america maoy potential motabang nato kung ugaling gubaton ta sa china.
Mao nga ilang palaguton ang mga tawo sa U.S. aron makontra na nato ang U.S. ug mawad-an ta og ally.
Para sayon na dayon ta nila attakehon.

3.)Kinsay nagsigeg strike sa atong mga dagko nga industries ug companiya,
using the labor unions and other leftist labor groups.
Nganung gibuhat ni nila.
Dili ni aron i-improve ang atong industries.
Hinayhinayan niyag cripple ang atong industries aron daghan mawad-an og trabaho aron makuhaan ang salig sa mga tawo sa atong gobyerno unya modawat na dayon ta sa ilang i-offer nga communism sa China as the better alternative.

4.)Nganung gibahaan man atong nasod sa mga barato nga china made products?
aron maguba ang atong economia. Maguba ang atong local industries.
Again mas pobre ang nasod mas sayon atakehon kay dili man sila kapalit og mga weapons or airplanes and missiles and jet bombers. ang china naa na silay nuclear missile giandam para sa pilipinas inkaso modecide na silag gubat nato. America na lang ug United Nations ilang problema.
Pero sayon ra nila ingnon nga giilog sa pilipinas ang ilang teritoryo sa Sabah.
Adto ta nila biklon.

5.) Asa gikan ang drugs diri sa pilipinas,?
ug nganung suko kaayo sila nga nabalik sa China ang mga drugs gikan diri.?
tungod kay ang drugs gikan sa china gihimo para sa filipino.
mao kini gamiton aron pagweaken sa atong military reservist.
pareho sa gihimo sa mga English ngadto sa hongkong,
nga gihimo una nilang adik sa opium ang mga tawo aron sayon sakopon.
kung daghan nag adik diri, mas daghan ang pobre, mas daghan way trabaho,
mas luya ang mga kalalakihan mas dali sakopon kung sugdan og gubat.

[Soul Doctor]

There's a difference between occupation and annexation. China only wants the Spratlys, it doesn't want the entire country. It's almost certain that the U.S. will help us if China invades to occupy the entire country. What's doubtful is whether they will interfere in a minor battle for Spratlys as its not even certain how much if any oil is in that area.

A loss whether political or absolute is still a loss. I don't think anyone could honestly say that the American public will tolerate another war, much less one with China. Their economy is in such shambles right now, another Iraq-style war would wreck their country, and this is China we are talking about not Iraq, they won't fall in a day or even a year. Also the days when the U.S. could accept hundreds of thousands of casualties like they suffered in Vietnam and WWII are long past. They have no stomach for huge casualties, even of the scale they experienced in Iraq. And there's no way they will allow the draft to take place again without widespread rioting. America is a different country now than it was before, it's weaker has less political will and most importantly has a citizenry that is averse to war.

The days when large, powerful countries fight against each other are also behind us. That's why we have the U.N. because the world realized after WWII that disputes need to be settled diplomatically at all costs and problems have to be solved before they escalate into bigger ones. A minor battle between countries is not going to be allowed to escalate into a world war between U.S. and China.

You are forgetting that there are people who benefits in every war. They supply and sell the weapons and arms, the military planes and the war missiles.
This is how they make money in war.
So if they become greedy now.
they can create another false flag operations(like 911) just to start a war.

[Soul Doctor]

exactly my point.. di ni mahitabo. kabalo sila sa consequences if buhaton ni nila.. imagine worldwide boycott sa ila mga produkto? if tan-awn nato kinsa ang kusog mo invade, that will be the US. & sa karon, safe ta kay wa may makuha ang US sa ato (humana man sauna, na invade nata daan..hehe). Aggression sa spratlys is natural, para sad na di ta manghilabot nila. murag basketball ba, masikhan gani ka yaw panawag sa ref para motawag og foul. paniko sad..baws2 rana. ang ato lang kay di man ta kabalo maniko gud (wa sad tay ikabuga) mao gihimo ratang kataw-anan. if kusog (og limpyo) pa ta og military force, i am sure walay mohilabot nato.

OT: take SG or Brunei (or even taiwan) for example, kagamay anang mga nasura, ngano man nga walay manghilabot sa ilaha? it is all about respect..bottomline, wa silay respect sa atong nasud (Govt). kay if naa pa, wa nay buang nga moilog sa Spratlys og sa SABAH.

China do not need the world for economic survival.
infact they can easily produce more than what they need.
China is a very powerful country, do not underestimate the powers of China.
They've been planning to invade us for a long time.
For how many years now, who financed the NPA's in mindanao?

[Soul Doctor]

ka paranoid ba nimo ts

di na mahitabo oi, ky kitay usa sa mga konsumedor sa mga imit nilang mga produkto! hahaha

tanang butang made in chinaaaaaaaaaaaa!

wala ra nay value nila ang mga china products nga gipabaha diri.
iglalabay ra na nila didto. surplus and rejects na sa ilang mga industries didto.
gilabay na diri para:

1.)smuggling drugs. ang mga imported nga tissue, diapers, cotton buds ug uban pa
maoy convenient nilang suksukan sa mga drugs padung sa pilipinas.

2.)money laundering. kung ang mga politiko, druglords ug gambling lords diri gusto labhan ang ilang
dirty money, ila ra kining ikumpra og mga chinese products bahalag ibaligyag alkanse basta inig kahalin limpyo na ang kwarta. air freshener tag P12 pesos. (ang local nga air freshener mo range from P50 to P120.)
Patungan pa sa taxes, pagpadala pa ana diri. nganung ibaligya man nilag barato kaayo?

bottomline, naay plano ang china pagguba sa atong ekonomiya, para sayon ra pildihon sa gubat.

[Soul Doctor]

ang japan gani nga gamay ra kaayo nga nasod gihimo man gani ni nila ang pag-atake nato sa una, unsa pa kaha ang china?

[Soul Doctor]

MO-invade ang China?

Kadugay na natong gicontrol sa China, ah.

kabantay diay ka brod?

[Soul Doctor]

Why are we so fricking worried about goddamn China?

sa star trek pa "resistance is futile"
right pinoy_09?

[Soul Doctor]

kung mahitabo ni, first thing mahitabo, mga datung insik dri mag larga, more on like exodus, nya ang mga pobre i dont know. mahadlok man gani slag conquer sa taiwan and cant even politicaly conquer hongkong. luoy jud ang chi community dri, filipinos wil bear grudge against chi, mag mob rule tingali. even in america during world war 2, gbutang sa consecration camps ang mga america-japs. if chi wil realy get spartly by force, maguba jud ang economic relations n peaceful community dri sa pinas. if dey badly want spratly, *****eral talks lng pra walay hasol

kung mahitabo ni. ang mga datu nga intsik maoy mahimong gobernador ug mayor sa mga lugar diri.
nganung manlarga man nuon sila. exactly spratly's is their trigger. once they decided to make war with the phils. they use spratly's as excuse to invade us. you have to understand the "ART of WAR" before you can see these things.