MERGED: All about CBCP/bishop's "gifts" from PCSO/GMA

[KhunRudy]

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bitaw dong mau na imong pagsabot ron. sakto gyud para kay GMA para malimpyo sad iya pangalan kay daghan kaayong nagduda. mosotoy gyud ang asenso og wa nay kawatan og maminosan manlang kanang magpanuko na silag pangawat kumbati na kaayo na.

I still believe that GMA will be acquitted of all the Plunder cases filed to her ... Media Mileage rana ilaha nag file ana nga case para Next Senatorial Election ....

Ang Malacanang through DOJ or Ombudsman panagana man gani file sa case kay wala jud klaro ebedinsiya ... well tan-awon nato sa sunod nga ka tuigan ....

I Hope mahuman na nga Circus aron ma suetoy na ang atong pag-asenso ...

[FAQ]

Instead of MOVING on for the FUTURE but the administration loves dealing issues of the past . Unsaon man pag improve sa country intawn kung sigi lang ta ingon ani ? Filipinos as well are fond of blaming the PAST , utro pud mga abNoy ... no wonder they voted for an abNoy ! They think Noy2x is right for the position .

Hitler wannabe pud nis abNoy . Hitler blamed the Jews for the country's misery , while Noynoy blaming past administrations for Philippines' misery .

[endlessknight]

Kaluoy sa mga obispo, wa nay mga Pajero...

[|ceman]

Instead of MOVING on for the FUTURE but the administration loves dealing issues of the past . Unsaon man pag improve sa country intawn kung sigi lang ta ingon ani ? Filipinos as well are fond of blaming the PAST , utro pud mga abNoy ... no wonder they voted for an abNoy ! They think Noy2x is right for the position .

Hitler wannabe pud nis abNoy . Hitler blamed the Jews for the country's misery , while Noynoy blaming past administrations for Philippines' misery .

that's what you call accountability

[dmcebu01]

Must Read!!!!

Philippines News Link, PhilNews - Opinion: The bishops don’t get it

Wednesday, July 13. 2011
The bishops don’t get it
The recent controversy involving the ‘7 Pajero bishops’ has struck the nation with great embarrassment. The real issue is not whether the so-called gifts are ‘unlawful or anomalous or unconstitutional’.

The continued defensive actions and claims that followed clearly show how far off the mark the bishops are. They continue to miss the real issue in the controversy. No doubt, the SUVs are not for personal and private use; the PCSO gifts are for the social and charitable ministries of church; and the gifts are legal and constitutional.

The real tragedy in the said controversy is the fact, ‘wala get mo, sila’. Our ‘excellencies’ have remained, in the language of an Inquirer editorial, ‘clueless’.

'Receiving the fund from the PCSO is NOT the real issue, the crux of the matter is the fact that PCSO donations did not happen within a vacuum, as a happy case of happenstance, with no strings attached and no payback expected.'

Retired Archbishop Oscar Cruz is quoted to have said that it was 'impossible' for President Arroyo to accommodate the bishops without some quid pro quo. 'Kapag humingi ka sa gobyerno, nakatali ang kamay mo.'

The payback required was the silence of their 'excellencies'.

'When the nation needed the moral strength and clarity of the Church as the Arroyo administration lurched from one outrageous impropriety to the next,' there was SILENCE! The bishops’ silence was, indeed, deafening and the PCSO gifts of SUVs clearly come into real perspective. It was around this time, also, that the derisive sobriquet: the 'Malacañang Dioceses' came to existence.

Now, ‘get mo na’!

There is nothing illegal in the gifts. There is nothing unconstitutional about the gifts. And there is nothing unlawful about the gifts. But mind you, there is a PAYBACK time for the gifts! It is no free ride, Virginia!

Again in another editorial, St. Thomas More’s famous quote against his perjurer was artfully conjured… 'Ah! What profits a man to gain the whole world… but for pajeros, your Excellencies?'

But in a more worldly scale of power and gold, an SUV gift is, indeed, a real bargain for a price of silence and cooperation of a bishop. PGMA was noted for giving generous gifts and envelopes knowing full well that for each SUV and envelope, there is a payback!

It was a no mean feat that she survived her nine years of presidency notwithstanding the issues of legitimacy of succession; the Hello Garci scandal; NBN and Fertilizer scams; and that is simply to name a few. For 7 Pajeros? That is super cheap! ‘Kuha mo?’

The CBCP’s letter is a hodge-podge apology of two strands. The first strand consists of the first five paragraphs revealing that the writers have remained 'clueless' about the whole issue of SUVs. These are well-couched paragraphs, on the main, an apologia pro vita sua. The last paragraph is a stand-alone and it reveals that there is a saving grace notwithstanding the attempt to justify.

The last paragraph could have been THE letter: short and 'pointed' devoid of any pretense and finally addressing the real issue involved in the SUVs as it quotes Psalm 51: 'a humbled and contrite heart' as they stand before the Lord that in the secret of their hearts, they may be taught God’s wisdom. Finally, 'KUHA NA!'
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[noel_llapa]

ga tanaw ko LIVE ron sa newsTV

walay pajero ug walay luxury vehicles
nya sakto man tanan ila gi gamit 2nd hand pa gae 2ng isa gi palit
nya taga bukid pa jud ang mga gi gamitan sa sakyanan

naluoy lang ko sa mga obispo kay napauwawan jud... tsk3

ngon pa ganiha nay mga "hyena" ug mga tao ga hatag ug malisya
ga twist tanan sa isyo..

ngon pa sen.Sotto mura nag mga kimpang ang mga bishop-dioceses
sa pag uli sa mga bukid ug mag lisod na pag access nila sa mga ila gipang
tabangan sa mga bukid2, ila na gipang uli ang units.

tawn gipang gira man gae ang lugar sa uban saon nalang

--shame on people na ga una2 ug sulti na wala pa kadungog sa side sa Simbahan

I saw it on ANC. Pajero wala, luxury vehicle naa--Montero Sport 1.7M. Personally, si Dios Pueblos ra jud ang ako ang ako gidumtan amongst the bishops, although as Bishop Oscar de la Cruz himself said ang gibuhat sa kadtong mga bishops shows grave imprudence and a lack of delicadeza (bishop na mismo ang nagsulti anah mismo ah).

Pero sa tanan bishop, si Dios Pueblos jud ang pinakabagag dagway, kay while the others asked for pick-ups and vans, siya nangayo jud ug Montero Sport, and the high-end variant pa jud ang gipili. And he was the only one na nagspecify pa jud pang-birthday gift jud to. He says na he wants to bring peace between xtians and muslims in CAraga! Wa sya nabuang! Pila ra man kabook muslim sa Caraga! Having lived in Caraga for 25 years, i know for a fact na muslims in caraga are a very tiny minority, unya wala jud intawn moro rebels sa caraga--the only troublesome muslims is caraga are the squatters and drug pushers in some parts of Butuan.

Since presidente pa ni Dios Pueblos sa Father Saturnino Urios University (College pa under his term), baho na kaayo ni iya reputation sa Butuan. Iyang gibutang ang assets sa school, which as its mission-vision explicitly states is a "non-profit" institution, under his name. Sa history sa eskwelahan, which has been under the diocese of butuan for more than a century, wala pa jud ni nahitabo na giangkun ang school sa usa ka bishop. tsk tsk.

And as for the Pajeros, the only bishop amongst the seven who ever had a Pajero is no other than Dios Pueblos himself. sus. I'm soooo proud jud sa amoang bishop. hehe. He had a Pajero Fieldmaster which he drove around the "far flung areas" of caraga daw. I guess naguba na to, so iya na ilisan ug Montero.

[concern_citizen]

according to bishop pueblo, the reason ngano 4x4 pajero iya gipangayo kay nagseservice xa sa mga bukid2x nga lugar nya dli daw nindot ang road conditions and kabalo daw si GMA sa kabati sa condition sa dalan ngadto dapita..

ang ako lng ngano 4x4 pajero man jd gipangayo nya knowing nga bati ang condition sa lugar, with that kind of road maski brand new pa na dali ra na maguba.. if gusto nya mo tabang sa mga tao ngadto na lugar ug mo service. dapat dli 4x4 pajero or SUV iya gipangayo ni GMA. dapat iya gipangayo ni GMA nga ayuhon ang dalan ngadto pra maski unsa na iya sakyanan krn magamit jpun nya ug maka benipisyo pa pd sa mga mumulopyo sa bukid2x nga iya gi servicesan... klaro lng jd nga nangita ug lusot...

[concern_citizen]

as per jinggoy's question to bishop pueblo

jinggoy: kung lumitaw si satanas sa harap mo at bigyan ka ng pera o kotse tatanggapin mo ba?
bishop peublo: posibleng tanggapin ko as long as gagamitin ko sa better cause.

WTF!! WTH!! asa nman tawn iya na kat.onan sa bibliya oi.. suma pa sa bibliya nga dili ta mo dwell sa presence sa demonyo...nya mo dawat na nun sa gihatag sa demonyo... na unsa nman tawn na xa oi... ang ginoo gani wla man gani ni dawat sa gi offer sa satanas kato naa xa sa wilderness si bishop pueblo na non.. hangawa ani nya oi. hahahahaha...

ok ra mo dawat ug kwarta gikan sa daotan basta gamiton pra mka tabang sa pobre? naunsa mani xa abi cguro nya cya si robin hood. hahahahahaha... pastilan nlng jd!!! kiat lng ang agi!!

[batigol192002]

--- gamiton ra ang nga sa Ginoo, ug para sa pobre kunohay...

[concern_citizen]

for me its not enough na reason na "AS LONG AS GAMITIN SA BETTER CAUSE" if thats the case pwede day ta mang hold-up nya ang ato na hold up ato i-tabang sa mga pobre... na unsa nman tawn ni oi....

dli pd enough na i-uli ang sakyanan ug sorry daun palusoton na cla... if thats the case tanan snatcher i-uli ang nahabilin sa kwentas nga gilabni daun sorry pra mkalusot sa kaso, ang hold.uper i-uli ang nahabilin na kwarta gi hold.up ug mo sorry daun palusoton na sa kaso... its the same thing gi-gamit na nila ang mga sakyanan.. pag uli ana used car nana dli na same price inig baligya ana daun mangayo ug sorry?... still dapat gihapon imbistigaran ug kinahanglan jpun naay justice nga mahitabo ani nga kaso... silutan ang mga angay silutan ma pcso official pana, ma bishop or ex-presidente..

ka hayahay ra sa mga bishop ah.. 4x4 brand new SUV man jd mo service sa bukid nga ang mga tao ddto kaya rman gani mag habal-habal... nganu kinahanglan 4x4 SUV man jd naa sila daghan dala gamit? dli jd pwede motor lng pang habal2x pra tipid pd gasolina...