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[fingolfin]

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this started it all. click me.

the "debates" were firmly in good order but when mosimos said this

To Carlo Borromeo:

I dont believe your mother is Opus Dei. I dont believe your brother is a Jesuit and I dont believe you are a Catholic. If i were you I would shed my Catholic pretensions.

.. how would you guys react if your families are insulted ?? coming from a guy who doesnt even know you.

Where is the insult there. We are free to believe or not right? I think nobody can force to believe a fact that is presented. Its like saying I dont agree with you. Is that an insult? This is a rather strained interpretation of what the word "insult" means.

I didnt call him names. But look at the guy he is calling me a d***K. What can you say about that?

.. do you know carlor borromeo or any of the members here in a personal level who are you to say those things

..

[weedmeister2]

@ Carlo: Bro, take it easy... you know for a fact that Desert Farter just shoots his mouth off without really knowing what he's saying... Let's not stoop down to his level... I admire the way you have been handling all his BS... Just forget about it bai... Â*

[Desert Father]

ey MOdZ..just like to ask if we'll not be banned if we join Carlo on his rampage?

.. carlo has every right to be angry.Â* In situations like this it should be done thru PMs but since mosimos posted that phrase in public then carlo should be free to retaliate whatever he wants.Â* Personal attacks is hurting but involving the family is something else entirely.

What? Im very surprised. I thought the rules are clear.Â* No insults.Â* And it should not depend who fired the first shot (of which I dont think I did). I dont think that statement was an insult.Â* Yeah I dont know personally Carlo but I do know what he is posting and i was basing that post on the way he is conducting in the forum.

You reprimand the initiator but you dont give the other the license to violate the rules you want to implement.Â*

Whats this? Subjective application of the rules? This is the true irony.Â* "I dont like you to violate the rules. But if the insults will be pointed to you no problem, fire away, rules are suspended."

.. i have read the entire thread.Â* dont mock my judgement.

I didnt mock your judgment. Â*Im just posting to explain myself. Ha hayyyyy. Â*I know Im hanging on a very thin thread. But you see, you got to believe me for once that I did not insult him.

Okay granting without admitting that I did insult him, the repeated posts of big bold, technicolor letters was too much for a retaliation which I think is no longer sanctioned by the rules.

But then I respect you but please could you give a small space so that my voice could be heard.

Thank you and more power. Â*God Bless You. Â*God Loves you.

[Desert Father]

this started it all. click me.

the "debates" were firmly in good order but when mosimos said this

To Carlo Borromeo:

I dont believe your mother is Opus Dei.Â* I dont believe your brother is a Jesuit and I dont believe you are a Catholic. If i were you I would shed my Catholic pretensions.Â*

..Â* how would you guys react if your families are insulted ??Â* coming from a guy who doesnt even know you.Â*

Where is the insult there. We are free to believe or not right?Â* I think nobody can force to believe a fact that is presented.Â* Its like saying I dont agree with you.Â* Is that an insult?Â* This is a rather strained interpretation of what the word "insult" means.

I didnt call him names.Â* But look at the guy he is calling me a d***K. What can you say about that?

.. do you know carlor borromeo or any of the members here in a personal level Â* who are you to say those things

..

No further comment fingolfin, I guess I have clearly stated my point. Sorry for everything.

Again God Bless you.

[fingolfin]

.. do not apologize to me. apologize to carlo and everybody here that you felt you have erred.

[weedmeister2]

@ Desert Father:

Is not religion all deeds and all reflection,

And that which is neither deed nor reflection, but a wonder and a surprise ever springing in the soul, even while the hands hew the stone or tend the loom?

Who can separate his faith from his actions, or his belief from his occupations?

Who can spread his hours before him, saying, "This for God and this for myself; This for my soul, and this other for my body?"

All your hours are wings that beat through space from self to self.

He who wears his morality but as his best garment were better naked.

The wind and the sun will tear no holes in his skin.

And he who defines his conduct by ethics imprisons his song-bird in a cage.

The freest song comes not through bars and wires.

And he to whom worshipping is a window, to open but also to shut, has not yet visited the house of his soul whose windows are from dawn to dawn.

Your daily life is your temple and your religion.

Whenever you enter into it take with you your all.


@ Gwyn: Familiar?

[tolstoi]

OT:..let's just take a breather guys

https://www.istorya.net/forums/index.php?topic=66196.475

[Carlo Borromeo]

.. do not apologize to me. apologize to carlo and everybody here that you felt you have erred.

Thanks for the back-up, bro. Nice to hear from you again. It's been a while.

[Desert Father]

.. do not apologize to me.Â* Â*apologize to carlo and everybody here that you felt you have erred.

With alll due respect fingolfin, I beg to disagree. Forgiveness is what a real catholic should endeavor. But in the case of Carlo, I think its not possible. Â*

Its him who repeatedly posted those d***k words over and over and over again with MALICE and DELIBERATE INTENT to hurt my feelings. Unprovoked at that. Â*

Without remorse and without due regard to my feelings.

Not even contented, he even posted obscene images offensive to the Catholic faith like the crucifix shape like a male organ and image of Jesus Christ cussing.

Instead of me asking his forgiveness, its should be him who should ask my forgiveness and to all the Catholics out there who are gravely offended by his language and posting of obscene images.

[enlighten]

The fallacy of ad hominem.

They cant beat you in the religious debate, they resort to innuendoes. Please lets go back to the doctines.

AD HOMINEM?

INNUNEDOS?

READ FOR YOURSELF, MOSIMOS:


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Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

Revelation 22:15
Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

Micah 5:12
I will destroy your witchcraft and you will no longer cast spells.


SO, MOSIMOS, WHO'S THE PAGAN? WHO'S THE WICCAN? MAYBE YOU SHOULD INQUIRE INTO YOUR RELIGION FIRST BEFORE YOU CALL OTHERS NAMES...

yes that's the sad fact weedmeister that some catholic priests and nuns are practicing new age movement...such a shame really inside our own church...anyways whoever did say that the catholic church is of the highest ideals and perfect is quite wrong....even priest sins commit mistakes how much more the church...

anyways i think carlo borromeo is catholic and there is no need for you mossimos to judge others through their post here unless you know them personally besides discussions should be healthy dli personalay...

haay grabe pila lang ko ka days wala ka anhi daghan na au nahitabo...ingon btw ko sa una respect each others opinion nalang...mas mau pa...or their religion and beliefs for that matter....

Naa pajud diay ko share ghapon attend ko mass then ang wali sa pari mao ni even if you know the bible cover to cover kun wala nmo gi practice ang iyang teaching ug wala sad ka magbuhat ug good deeds sa imong fellowmen wala gihapon sense ang imong pagka master sa bibliya...

have a nice day my friends...hope wala na maglalis ug maginsultuhay...