RELIGION

[Sovabon]

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I believe GOD wont forgive us if we continue arguing everything here. Love, respect and unity, etc are His demands on us. These are the qualities of being a truly candid christians!

Accdg to Him, for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. That whosoever shall believeth in Him, should not perish but have everlasting LIFE!

Therefore, he is not requiring us to quarrel over one's group affiliation, denomination, belief, & faith in Him. It is only HIM who will decide His annointed ones to enter His kingdom prepared for the righteous.

[MrBiddle]

And that's it? Who's potterboy, bro? Why should anything he says have any value to your argument? Both of you never quoted from the early Christian writers. Your witness is to yourself. Sorry, bro. You got to do better than that. Indeed, there was a visible church before the Bible was ever completed. Ever read the Acts? Obviously, there was already the visible church or else who could be present at the Council of Jerusalem. St. Paul never had authority to decide on doctrinal matters - only the Church Magisterium has that.

But you're NOT in the context of Israel walking hand in hand back to sin and slavery, which Isaiah predicted in the first chapter of his book and in 17 - 18 of the Book of the Apocalypse.

It's all there, including the obsolete rendition of the Old Testament Tradition and how God sees the futility of those who still uphold the Jewish tradition.

But you're gonna accuse me and anybody separated from the RCC to be claiming "inner witness", I bet what I'm mentioning here has already been brought up to you a million times - by people who haven't been born 2000 years ago..... just like yourself ;-b

Walay pulos? Of course because as I said earlier when things get too clear as crystal you don't have the courage to put 2 and 2 together...... then you ask me if I hear myself. Yes I do. And I'm 100 per cent sure I don't need to check myself into a mental institution.

Potterboy is just one of us who understands the Scriptures with confident intuitiveness and comprehension.

[Melvinthegreat]

i agree with you mr. dacs. but the church is abusing thier powers and authority. they don't pay taxes and the priest are being high headed

its the government's decision to not asked taxes from the churches dude

[potterboy]

FYI:

when the government forwarded an info suggesting the religious sectors to pay taxes, the church responded immediately and positively even before it was seconded to be resolved.

in fact, the church[es] was[were] more than happy to help the country.


and unya ra... wala ko kabantay ani da... wala naman gud ko gana mobasa unta ani nga thread kay gipatuyoktuyok raman gud ni sa kaalam sa mga tawo. sama ani:

And that's it?Â* Who's potterboy, bro?Â* Why should anything he says have any value to your argument?Â* Both of you never quoted from the early Christian writers.Â* Your witness is to yourself.Â* Sorry, bro.Â* You got to do better than that.Â* Indeed, there was a visible church before the Bible was ever completed.Â* Ever read the Acts?Â* Obviously, there was already the visible church or else who could be present at the Council of Jerusalem.Â* St. Paul never had authority to decide on doctrinal matters - only the Church Magisterium has that.

lolz.
i am me.
i am a simple forumer who never expected that my posts were gonna be questioned.
i am a christian and i believe that the real church ceases to exist physicaly. ang tinood, bisan unsaun pa ug kadako ug kakaraan sa simbahan ug ang lupon nga nag-una sa "espirituhanong pakigbisog", but followers are just there merely because they believed the physicality of the church as a medium for their faith, di ba? basta simbahan na gud.Â* wud the church you said you were so informed about teach u to have ur statements against ur fellow forumers to question the greatest gift in life that CHRIST himself gave? "Who's potterboy, bro? "... a thousand books to teach you the history of the foundation of the church over the course of time is useless. it wud matter if ud base anything on them if science was the subject. but c'mon, it is the heart and how you believe that grows ur faith and not the knowledge u accumulated in this world. it only imparts a bit. mag-unsa man ang simbahan kung wala ang pagtoo. magpabilin ra nang SIMBAHAN ang pangalan ana. empty, an icon.

i dnt read the bible as much as you do. but i know sumwer...Â* (unya ra... basin ug correctionan ko ninyo ha...) i remember when i was still a child... hmmm... actualy, just a decade ago... i heard sumone said that CHRIST said " i am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the
Father but through me." and mao sad na akong gipangita... naa man sad gyud. lolz.

"Here was a reminder that, though on the human level the task was his, he should remember that any human effort to serve God, even in a seemingly purely physical project, depends on the presence of the Spirit of God for its success. It is not human might or power or wisdom that accomplishes God’s work, but God Himself, working through His people (see. John 15:5; Phil. 2:12,13). "

i wudnt care if there was no church for others to see... what i care about is how i establish the CHURCH,Â* of GOD, within me.

Is that in the Bible that CHRISTIAN means CHRIST I Am Nothing?

kamao man cguro ka mobasa... mura ug mao man ni akong gipost:
without CHRIST I Am Nothing.

kung wala si HESUKRISTO sa akong kinabuhi... wala koy pulos. mao na akong gipasabot.

ayaw palabi sa imong kaalam. ayaw padala sa imong emosyon. dili ni about sa kinsa ang sweto ug ang gigiyahan sa kaalam mahitungod sa espirituhaong panginabuhi ug panggubatan kundili kung kinsa ang KRISTIYANO nga tunhay ug kinsa ang nagpaka-aron-ingnon. let me stress that rituals and crying(kasagarang naandan sa mga naandan) alone wont do. your love and faith in God will.

Certainly.Â* You would never have a Bible.Â* In fact, you have to call Christ a liar because He never built the Church that He promised would prevail even on the gates of Hell.Â* The same Church that will teach even the powers and principalities of heaven (Ephesians 3:10).

hahay, i was talking of the PHYSICAL CHURCH... the ones that u see erected everywhere... the groups that you see claiming that their church is the way to eternal salvation...

i never questioned the BIBLE. did i? in fact, i only posted one or two paragraphs per post explaining my humble side as how i view some people making it a habit of inserting "earthly" traditions in their Worship.

had you not known love, u wud never learn to worship and acknowledge GOD as your creator and the life-giver. because of your faith, your spirituality grows strong. thus creating the CHURCH OF GOD in you.
FAITH. LOVE. CHRIST.

You can’t help but remember that the church is about people, with all their sins and needs and differences. You become very aware that apart from God’s Spirit, this thing called the church will never work!

let me ask you brother, what exactly is your point in this argument?

[potterboy]

nawa... na double post nalang nuon ko...

[MrBiddle]

Dacs, and what Magisterium.... in the City of 7 hills where Paul settled preaching the kingdom for the rest of his life? It doesn't say so in Acts.

Scriptures are silent. History is silent. Daniel and Isaiah, John vividly attest to the unbiased world history Meganda presented some time ago. My own witness? Call it that, but you're afraid to put 2 and 2 together, bro.

[MrBiddle]

i wudnt care if there was no church for others to see... what i care about is how i establish the CHURCH, of GOD, within me.

To give a better presentation, Eph. 2: 18 - 22, 1 Pet. 2: 4 - 8, 1 Cor. 6: 19 or 3: 16 (in context of Matt. 16: 18 )

You see Dacs? I'm NOT afraid of Matt. 16: 18!

I'll throw the question back to you, do you read the whole Bible or only the parts that you like

Canon is closed (Rev. 22: 17 - 19)

God chose the Canon (Is. 34: 16 )

Not even the powers of the RCC to prevent it from being read by the people could
stop the Message from spreading out (Matt. 24: 35)

although it was suppressed for a time (Amos 8: 11 )

[Cardinal Bunal]

S.N.M.P. is correct

I noticed nga naay uban diri grabe ang kalagot sa katoliko.Â* Perhaps siguro kay ang Catholic is one establishment nga lisud gyud tumpagon mao nang frustrating kaayo noh?Â*

And this is written in Rev. 18: 18, 14.....

Pnoize2k4 is also correct. They're acts of murder in the Inquisition is in Rev. 17: 6 and Isaiah 28 (whole chapter)

To quote SNMP, don't just read the passages man know and understand their meaning I recommend you guys understand the logic of A sentence is a term- but not every word is a term those other words are called syncategorematic terms in the sentence.

Of course the RCC will rant about people like myself, Von-X! Potterboy, Meganda or MrBiddle complaining about their doctrinals.
And then they will fleece us by saying they've always been an institution working for peace, in concert with the UN, CIA, FBI whoever. They're all part of the same alphabet soup.Â*

If some of you follow the recommendation of SNMP to take a course in Philsophy, then I recommend you know and understand the meaning of Argumentum ad Baculum, which Isaiah also alludes to (Isaiah 57: 12 )

[Cardinal Bunal]

Page 18 na ta.

Nasapawan na nuon nako ang reply ni Potterboy og MrBiddle. They're on the previous page

[PissKhanXXX]

I solely believe in the Bible.Â* Anything added or omitted, or any doctrine which is not in consonance with the Scriptures is not to be practised.