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  1. #4261

    I think there is a fine line between identifying yourself as a "Modder" and Identifying yourself as a "Builder". Both are enthusiasts.

    You can be a modder but not a builder, these are people who do a lot of scratch builds and case mods, but your PC is full of bottlenecks, bad quality parts or ill-advised combinations of parts. Usually these people come from Autosculpting cars, people who work with metal a lot or people who paint things for a living.

    You can also be a builder but not a modder, these are people who specialize in fantasy builds, they are familiar with what hardware it takes to run 4 titan blacks, they spend a lot of time in pc partpicker, these people are also very familiar with upcoming hardware releases. These people use standard cases and may not be comfortable with the first dremel cut.

    Both are equal enthusiasts and both have their specialty, a Builder can ask a modder to mod his rig, and a modder can ask a builder to mix and match his parts to remove any bottlenecks.

    Some of us are Builders, Modders and Overclockers.
    Enthusiasts all the same.

  2. #4262
    isnt that my point? although the challenges, excitement and fulfillment are different, does not mean they are non existent.

  3. #4263
    regarding no challenge, no excitement, no fullfillment,
    sorry if this is what your ego touches much

    there are many ways of expressing these words.
    think it just made some misleading.

  4. #4264
    i dont know how my personal ego is relevant, because i am a modder. so your phrase "no challenge no fulfillment no excitement" does not apply to me.. but it does apply to others. so i will and am speaking in-behalf.

    modding is not the only hobby related to PC.

  5. #4265
    Quote Originally Posted by j_rotten View Post

    kung ikaw tag-iya ug auto nya imo gipa-mod sa uban like pimp my ride,
    ok kaayo na kay di na ka mahago, all you have to do is bayad lng ka
    pero ako pangutana , kung nalingaw ba ka nagtan-aw sa di nimo binuhat?
    or nalipay ba ka nidaug ka sa di nimo binuhat?
    usually ang pangutana ana sa mga tawo or spectators is kinsa nag-setup ana?
    kinsa nagmood ana? di ba?
    tagsa ra kaayo muingon kinsa tag-iya ana? kay kahibaw ta dato jud ang tag-iya kay nindot.

    same thing ra na sa pc mod.

    naay kawarta daghan, kaya ra kaayo pa-mod sa uban.
    pero pangutana ana, na-challenge ba ka? nalingaw ba ka?
    di ba it's a hobby, ngano sa lain man ka magpabuhat.

    nindot mn gud ipakita nato atong binuhat

    di ba kasagaran sa mga muapil anang pc show tagsa ra jud kaayo niapil sa iya pc cya nagbuhat karon panahona?
    ato makit-an tag 3-5 entries modded by so on and so forth.
    I am into automobiles too and have been joining shows with my bestfriend.. We also have a project vehicle that was custom commissioned by others and a purely DIY modification, from conceptualization to materialization..

    In both instances, there was a 'jungle of emotions and experiences' that wass unique to one another that I can't say one is less of a value than the other... nor did it made me feel less of a hobbyist.. so to preempt and ask those questions bro, i'm afraid, really is a bit offensive.. Although i think that is not your intention to start with..


    Going within the realms of PC Hardware Hobby.. here's another perspective (mine) you might wanna see..

    If I can afford to have my rig modded by an expert.. I would.. Now where is the:

    Challenge? Probably in conceptualization.. My imagination can be limitless, but my hardware/tools are.. which is probably the one of the reasons why others opted to have their rig modded by others (dili pud baya basta basta ang gabson/buslutan nato, mistakes would be costly) Most likely i only want him to make my 'ideas/concepts' into realization..

    Excitement? you know being in a anxious seat, waiting for every teaser pics the modder would post every now and then (just like how bro acidsuicide has been doing.. i am one your avid stalkers diay bro haha).. that is excitement..

    Fulfillment? seeing how everything is being put up and finally getting hold of your " modified"rig.. sharing the amazement with others upon seeing the finish product (either through posting of pictures or displaying it on rig shows of which, whether who worked on it is not relevant to one's appreciation of the "rig itself") there is sheer fulfillment in it..

    What's my point? We have differently perspectives about just everything.. We can't force nor tell everyone how/what they should/shouldn't do nor compare your excitement/challenges/fulfillment to others.. we are peculiar beings after all



    OT: mao ni among project DIY car last year hehehe..

    Last edited by giver_bert; 03-25-2015 at 02:00 PM.

  6. #4266
    kombati nani... grabe baya kaayo ko ka ARTISTIC moparayeg palitan ko pc parts ni MAMA. hahhahaha.. bitaw oi. Peace namo... Ma modders/builders/owners as long as nalingaw ta niining bisyoha!

  7. #4267
    Quote Originally Posted by AcidSuicide View Post
    i dont know how my personal ego is relevant, because i am a modder. so your phrase "no challenge no fulfillment no excitement" does not apply to me.. but it does apply to others. so i will and am speaking in-behalf.

    modding is not the only hobby related to PC.
    murag ako man ni na mention earlier boss
    "this is not pinpointing to the modders"

    akong point ra jud in this thread is to encourage "All PC enthusiasts" to build their RIG by themselves
    kung mabuhat sa uban, nganong d mn nato mabuhat.
    if mao lng ni prisipyo nato, why not? d ba?

    google and youtube are our bestfriends

    pero if d jud kaya so go to the modders/builders/unsa pa na diha, sa ako na giingon it's all your choice.

    kamo na lng bahala asa ibutang ang challenge, excitement ug fullfillment
    bcn lainon na pud ug sabot sa uban

    here' where the story ends - THE SUNDAYS
    Last edited by j_rotten; 03-25-2015 at 04:50 PM.

  8. #4268
    modder or builder, still the same. its the thought that counts nga ikaw ganahan ka magbuild og pc or mo modd. My first mod was by cutting my CM silencio 650 sidepanel and replace it with acrylic glass(need assistance from my bro since mas naa sya alamag anang handling sa tools and i did the designing part on how it would look like). I remember sauna nagpahimo ko ni @AcidSuicide og PSU cover kay kato nga time bago pako atong modding. i dont know if nkalimot nka boss but ako tong ni ad2 sa inyoha nagkuha sa item bsag layo kaau amo sa north(liloan) ni kurso dyd kog anha sa inyo kay maikog ko nmo(btw my old account was quad8300 i dont know nganu dli nko kalogin ani nga account). syempre naa ang excitement nga makuha na nmo ang item pra mabutang na nmo sa imong rig. didto ko nkahuna2x try og himo sidepanel after i saw his rig nya same pa dyd mig casing. not sure kng mao pa ba nang gipost nya katong centaurion. pero mao lge kuwang kaaug tools pra modding mao to nag ask ko ni bro @AcidSuicide unsay mga need like rotary tool, c clamp, heatgun etc(mao ni pra sa katong gusto mo mod pero limited rag tools). and now, successfully built my custom case (Computer parts mounted on Table considered as casing pero syempre need help from my bro kay weekends ra matrabaho kay work pud ko..) i've posted it here before. bottomline, to build or to mod, its the same thing naa ang excitement,challenge,fulfillment and anxiety(katong gi ingon nga costly ang parts if naay sayop).

    pero why not try both? mas higher ang excitement,challenge,fulfillment and anxiety kng ikaw magbuhat sa duha..just my two cents
    ill post updates on my rig kay naa nako naadd nga parts ato..


  9. #4269
    Quote Originally Posted by testerness View Post
    modder or builder, still the same. its the thought that counts nga ikaw ganahan ka magbuild og pc or mo modd. My first mod was by cutting my CM silencio 650 sidepanel and replace it with acrylic glass(need assistance from my bro since mas naa sya alamag anang handling sa tools and i did the designing part on how it would look like). I remember sauna nagpahimo ko ni @AcidSuicide og PSU cover kay kato nga time bago pako atong modding. i dont know if nkalimot nka boss but ako tong ni ad2 sa inyoha nagkuha sa item bsag layo kaau amo sa north(liloan) ni kurso dyd kog anha sa inyo kay maikog ko nmo(btw my old account was quad8300 i dont know nganu dli nko kalogin ani nga account). syempre naa ang excitement nga makuha na nmo ang item pra mabutang na nmo sa imong rig. didto ko nkahuna2x try og himo sidepanel after i saw his rig nya same pa dyd mig casing. not sure kng mao pa ba nang gipost nya katong centaurion. pero mao lge kuwang kaaug tools pra modding mao to nag ask ko ni bro @AcidSuicide unsay mga need like rotary tool, c clamp, heatgun etc(mao ni pra sa katong gusto mo mod pero limited rag tools). and now, successfully built my custom case (Computer parts mounted on Table considered as casing pero syempre need help from my bro kay weekends ra matrabaho kay work pud ko..) i've posted it here before. bottomline, to build or to mod, its the same thing naa ang excitement,challenge,fulfillment and anxiety(katong gi ingon nga costly ang parts if naay sayop).

    pero why not try both? mas higher ang excitement,challenge,fulfillment and anxiety kng ikaw magbuhat sa duha..just my two cents
    ill post updates on my rig kay naa nako naadd nga parts ato..

    uu.. ka remember ko nimo. kay mao tong na tyming pinaka palpak. kay gi dala dala to nako sa akong mga lakaw ato nga day nga perting inita.. na lanay kay sa dashboard naka butang. sorry kaayo ato. i would be more than happy to replace it, even though it's been some years na.

    anyhoot.. the issue is not about modders vs builders or any type of enthusiast. it is the way nga murag na look down ang nag pa mod, or nag pa build because they didnt do it on their own. kanang phrase nga "di parehas anang uban, nindot kaayo ug rig, pero gi pa mod ra diay, walay challenge walay excitement. walay fulfillment" is what ticked me off. and he's said that more than once. murag man ug nag imply nga there is a BETTER breed of enthusiast. how would customers ni renaire, comcam, lordzhen and me react if he said that directly to them? ma offend ui. kung mag post sila ug rig nga gipa mod nila, and mu ingon si jrotten nga "nice pero way challenge kay dili kaw nag mod".. how would that make the poster feel about the pride they have sa ilang rig? that is the only point im trying to convey. nothing else.

    and para ma klaro jrotten, yes. kasabot ko dili ang modders imong gi pinpoint. klaro ana. but like i said.. "im speaking in-behalf" of those nga na PA mod.

  10. #4270
    Started this hobby when a friend recommended me to visit istorya (don't know what this site is so that caught my attention). I read some PC stuffs and topics around and learned some things, so a friend encouraged me to join a group in FB for all Computer Enthusiasts, so I decided to join and that caught my attention engaging more in computer stuffs.

    One thing also caught my attention when watching bro @AcidSuicide work through FB, how nice his works are, with all the RIGS he modded and watching some other modded RIGS in other sites as well some other peeps through here in istorya who fulfilled me on this passion.

    Going back:

    I remembered one time when I contacted bro AcidSuicide para magpabuhat niya og GPU backplate sauna because I don't know how to do it and that's what other peeps also recommended nga magpabuhat nya because of his great works. After having the GPU backplate, decided to contact him again para mgpahimo og PSU cover and ipa MOD akong Front Panel and some other stuffs.

    With all those MODDED works he did for my RIG, that gave me an idea how to do it and caught my attention with PC DIY already.

    So I decided to MOD my RIG on my own (i don't have the tools to MOD it and I don't know where to start, It's really not my intention to MOD my RIG but it's because I want to try and I like it and I can't say I am a modder or a builder, it's because I just love this passion cuz it's my hobby so nangita ko og paagi unsaon nako pag MOD.

    Since wala man jd koy enough tools to MOD my RIG but as long as you are determined on how to do it. It is possible.

    From Worse to Better. .hehe..

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