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  1. #391

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvil View Post
    Maayo pa nimo, ayaw nalang ug simba kon mao man gani na dili nimo gusto. Ang simbahan igo ra na mo tudlo nimo ug naa sa imoha ang desisyon kon mosunod ka o dili. Dili man pud na sila mamugos nimo sa pagto-o kanila kay aduna man kay katungod.

    Kana sige sila ug reklamo anaa problema sa anang balaodnon na wala nato masabti. Pareho ra pud na nimo nga grabe pud nimo ka reklamo bahin sa homily sa pari. Ako ika tambag nimo brad ayaw na pag simba. Total dili man relihiyon ang maka salbar nato usa'g usa.
    And I thought your Church is for everyone? Here we have a saint encouraging someone not to go to Church.
    Keep telling people that!

  2. #392
    Quote Originally Posted by rickflag View Post
    that's the point bro nga di dapat daghan ug anak kay maglisud na gani tag bayad ug tax. to answer the question, way ma help ang govt ug ang ubang tao, it's your children so it's your responsibilities. daghan ko nailhan couples bro nga gusto unta manganak pa pero di nalang kay di kaya mao nay responsible parents. sayang unta ila kaliwat kay mga hitsuraan ug mga utokan.
    The more children you have the more exemption our government gave you. Pag single ka, dako na imo tax, sa pag anaa kay anak mo gamay imong tax kay hatagan ka ug exemption or less sa imong tax.

    Anaa ang problema sa atong gobyerno mao nang lisud kaayo ta. Ang simbahan nag reklamo sad sila bahin sa kabuang ning atong gobyerno.

  3. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvil View Post
    Anaa ang problema sa atong gobyerno mao nang lisud kaayo ta. Ang simbahan nag reklamo sad sila bahin sa kabuang ning atong gobyerno.
    Di nah ba sad angay ang gobyerno mureklamo napud sah kabuang sah simbahan?? Tanan nag-bayad ug tax. Ang simbahan? Aw.. Separation of Church and State dayon.

  4. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by oisilener1982 View Post
    Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma encouraged couples who want to have more children to do so, even with the recent passage of the Reproductive Health (RH) Law.
    Read my Lips! Pag siyooor oi...

  5. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by redemption32 View Post
    And I thought your Church is for everyone? Here we have a saint encouraging someone not to go to Church.
    Keep telling people that!
    The Church is for everyone and welcome to those who believe. But in your case you kept on complaining against the Church, ngano dili man ka mo gawas? Na wala manka naka uyon sa gitudlo sa simbahan. Igo ra ka tudloan ug anaa rana nimo na motoo ka o dili. You have the right to choose between good and evil.

    The same thing as what Martin Luther did. He is an Augustinian priest but due to the abuse done by the Church in his time like selling the indulgence to people, he protested and made his own religion.

  6. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvil View Post
    The Church is for everyone and welcome to those who believe. But in your case you kept on complaining against the Church, ngano dili man ka mo gawas? Na wala manka naka uyon sa gitudlo sa simbahan. Igo ra ka tudloan ug anaa rana nimo na motoo ka o dili. You have the right to choose between good and evil.
    And I also have the right to choose between smart and stupid. Don't worry. I got out yeeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrrssss ago.

  7. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by redemption32 View Post
    Di nah ba sad angay ang gobyerno mureklamo napud sah kabuang sah simbahan?? Tanan nag-bayad ug tax. Ang simbahan? Aw.. Separation of Church and State dayon.
    The state made a constitution on the separation of Church and the State. Not the Church who made the constitution. It is also the State made the Church FREE from taxes and not the Church.

    Nan karon unsa man diay na ang mga kaparian diba mga citizen man pud na sila. People of the Church who serve are also citizen of the State and has the right to complain on how our gov't govern the state.

    Mao na ang angay basolon ang gobyerno dili ang Simbahan kay ang atong gobyerno maoy nag gama anang constitution na libre ang simbahan sa buhis.

    There is also a law of the state that the Church cannot hide. Kon makasala ang pari like rape, pedophilia ug uban pang salaud na criminal, obligasyon pud na sa pari ang pag tubag sa iyang salaud. Pwede pud ang pari makasuhan sama nianang treason, rebellion ug uban pa kay ang pari usa sad ka citizen of that state.

  8. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvil View Post
    Mao na ang angay basolon ang gobyerno dili ang Simbahan kay ang atong gobyerno maoy nag gama anang constitution na libre ang simbahan sa buhis.
    Uu. Angay basolon ang gobyerno kay ang mga taga Simbahan, nagpakaharuhay ra nya nag sangyaw pa nga manganak pa ta ug daghan para ila napud basolon balik ang gobyerno nga wala kunoy nabuhat..

    wenlove24, di-ara ang circle nga dugay rah nimung gisulti ai..

  9. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvil View Post
    The Church is for everyone and welcome to those who believe.
    ngano naa man (catholic) missionaries naningkamot man nga ma spread word of god.. labi na sa mga non believers

  10. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by oisilener1982 View Post
    In reference to the RH Law, Palma said that even if President Benigno Aquino III passed the law, couples should not be afraid if they want more children.
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvil View Post
    Anaa ang problema sa atong gobyerno mao nang lisud kaayo ta. Ang simbahan nag reklamo sad sila bahin sa kabuang ning atong gobyerno.

    Ano ang karapatan ng mga bata
    1. Right to be born
    2. Right to have a family that will take care of them
    3. Right to receive a good education
    4. Right to expand their opportunities to reach their full potential.
    5. Right to have enough food, shelter and healthy.
    6. Right to have a the opportunity to play
    7. Right to be given protection agains abuse, danger and violence
    8. Right to live in a peaceful community
    9. Right to choice and right to make decisions

    if ang family income = 20k pesos / month
    mother + father + 1 child = 20,000 / 3 (person)= 6,666.67 person/person/month= 222.22 pesos/ person/day
    mother + father + 2 child = 20,000 / 4 (person)= 5,000 person/person/month= 166.67 pesos/person/day
    mother + father + 3 child = 20,000 / 5 (person)= 4,000 person/person/month = 133.33 pesos/person/day
    mother + father + 4 child = 20,000 / 6 (person)= 3333.33 person/person/ month = 111.11 pesos/person/day
    Last edited by masakiton; 01-24-2013 at 03:19 PM.

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