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  1. #391

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik


    Quote Originally Posted by herzabar
    @ 7DMM Hehe sorry we started on the wrong foot. Reason why I was so negative in my previous posts because I sincerely believe this proposal isnt going anywhere so I did not take it seriously. I know personally these people who are proposing, their motives and I dont dont agree with them.

    OT: 51st Batallion ka pre?? Under naka ni Lt.Col. Tomas Osmena?? hehehe

    @ ROTC should be voluntary.

    Well thats what the current set-up we have right now. The reason these people wanted to have ROTC compulsory is because under the current set-up the roster of cadets have declined. I mean not only slightly decline and to say drastically decline is even an understatement. It has declined so low to the point of non-existence.

    One of the reason, I think for this, is information disemenation. People does not exactly know what ROTC is all about. They dont know what their options after graduating from ROTC. They dont know that they can be in the Ready Reserves or go CAD. That they can take advanced ROTC courses and POTC to become officers in the Ready Reserves or even in the Regular Army if they go CAD(its called lateral entry in the PNP). Remember 70% of the officers in the AFP are ROTC graduates and not PMAers.
    According to my "scientific studies" 80% of those who joined the Ready Reserves now does not even know at first, prior to joining, that Ready Reserves exist and that they are even eligible to join. They usually learned this thing from their friends who are already under the Ready Reserves. IF YOU GRADUATED FROM ROTC THEN YOU CAN JOIN!!! Like most people, you can only appreciate ROTC if you join the Ready Reserves or better yet go CAD. You can also join the NPAs or declare jihad to spice things up....

    Why I dont agree with compulsory ROTC?
    Its better to have 10 well trained, highly motivated ROTC graduates than 1000 half-baked, uninterested ROTC graduates. Plus, it is a known fact that this will be again a breeding ground for corruption. The never endless corruption. sigh....
    @ herzabar: no problem.my apologies too. peace

    bok/sir/sarge/master maybe it's just that you know the proponents of this proposal and i guess you have serious issues with this people.i can't say much about your RRU.

    i was there during the said conference (PA ROTC Corps Commanders' Convention which i later found out that it was supposed to be "only" for PA. leaving out the PAF and the PN) and i heard a lot of comments from the corps commanders from our units that they don't agree to most of the proposals made and only they could come up with better ideas for it.didn't bother to look at it since lower mammal ra man pud ko.hehehehehe

    i am for the growth of Ready Reserve Units here in our country and of course ROTC is where we get our reservists from.i would agree with you that most who join the reserves doesn't have any idea about it.(dala lang sa kahig) as for me, i only found the time and the chance to be active in the reserve when they activated our unit about 3 years ago.(i didn't have regrets staying with the PN and at the same time turning down the offer for commissionship with the ARESCOM. no offense meant bok/sir/sarge/master)

    @ compulsoryship of ROTC: it has also been my experience that lahi gihapon ang naay ROTC. mas refined ang batasan sa naka graduate ug ROTC kay sa purely civilian ang character.maybe naa lang gyud mga pipila na wala gyud ma assimilate ang purpose sa program.well, i could say na fault sa sa ubang RESCOM CO's nganong wala.i would say taking up ROTC would somewhat create a balance.you will know the difference Â*between a purely civilian person and a civilian with military orientation.

    regarding corruption: no slaves if there are no tyrants-dr. jose rizal

    @ herzabar OT: then the COL. knows how to shout UWAAAAH! Â* Â*HOOOWAAAHHH to you!



    Audentes Fortuna Juvat

  2. #392

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    Quote Originally Posted by jugs_06
    pag ROTC mo para ma skin cancer mog was oras.. hehehehe
    mag hubo na deay ang ROTC karon? wakekekekke

  3. #393

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    Quote Originally Posted by BaDBoY
    Quote Originally Posted by jugs_06
    pag ROTC mo para ma skin cancer mog was oras.. hehehehe
    mag hubo na deay ang ROTC karon? wakekekekke
    OT: unsa gud nang pangutanaha.. not being naked doesn't mean you won't get skin cancer..

  4. #394

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    Quote Originally Posted by jugs_06
    Quote Originally Posted by BaDBoY
    Quote Originally Posted by jugs_06
    pag ROTC mo para ma skin cancer mog was oras.. hehehehe
    mag hubo na deay ang ROTC karon? wakekekekke
    OT: unsa gud nang pangutanaha.. not being naked doesn't mean you won't get skin cancer..
    OT: dilikado deay nga mag ka skin cancer ang mga farmers, metro aid, traffic enforcers, fishermen, and all military trainees nga nag training under the heat of the sun? wakekekeke... how do you get skin cancer anyway?

  5. #395

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    rotc is a required so ayaw nalang supak kay dili man gubat ang first purpose ana...disciplane na xa mga bro...

    ang di gusto mao tong mga di gusto magpadisciplina...

  6. #396

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    Quote Originally Posted by phil_vigilante
    rotc is a required so ayaw nalang supak kay dili man gubat ang first purpose ana...disciplane na xa mga bro...

    ang di gusto mao tong mga di gusto magpadisciplina...
    Sure ka bai nga discipline ang purpose ana? Unsa may purpose ana kung dili gubat? What can u earn kung mahuman ka sa ROTC? Is it an advantage if you apply for a job here and abroad?

  7. #397

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    Quote Originally Posted by lalakingbisdak
    Quote Originally Posted by phil_vigilante
    rotc is a required so ayaw nalang supak kay dili man gubat ang first purpose ana...disciplane na xa mga bro...

    ang di gusto mao tong mga di gusto magpadisciplina...
    Sure ka bai nga discipline ang purpose ana? Unsa may purpose ana kung dili gubat? What can u earn kung mahuman ka sa ROTC? Is it an advantage if you apply for a job here and abroad?
    niagi ka ba ug boyscout bay? duda ko wala sad kay nakat-unan sa imong pagka boyscout.. so kung mao man gani, gahi gyud deay ka makat-on... wakekekekekeke... kahibalo ba kaha ka sa meaning sa ROTC noh? aron sad makasabot ka kung para asa ang ROTC ba...

  8. #398

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    Quote Originally Posted by BaDBoY
    Quote Originally Posted by lalakingbisdak
    Quote Originally Posted by phil_vigilante
    rotc is a required so ayaw nalang supak kay dili man gubat ang first purpose ana...disciplane na xa mga bro...

    ang di gusto mao tong mga di gusto magpadisciplina...
    Sure ka bai nga discipline ang purpose ana? Unsa may purpose ana kung dili gubat? What can u earn kung mahuman ka sa ROTC? Is it an advantage if you apply for a job here and abroad?
    niagi ka ba ug boyscout bay? duda ko wala sad kay nakat-unan sa imong pagka boyscout.. so kung mao man gani, gahi gyud deay ka makat-on... wakekekekekeke... kahibalo ba kaha ka sa meaning sa ROTC noh? aron sad makasabot ka kung para asa ang ROTC ba...
    mao ba? dili lang ang rotc ang makadisiplina sa tawo kundi sa tawo mismo. required sa unsa ang rotc? palihug klaro bi. that's shallow if you say ang dili ganahan sa rotc mao tong di gusto magpadisiplina.

  9. #399

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    nganu sad kaha no nga ang uban dili man gyud ganahan ug ROTC... ako ganahan gyud ko pero sakit palandungon nga dili nako pwede sa ROTC kay ning graduate naman gud ko... lingaw kaayo ko sa among marcha2 sa una, sige pa-init, pa-abog, pa-punish sad sa mga officers, mao nga lingaw gyud kaayo ko... daku pa gyud akong grado sa ROTC... ang akong experience sa ROTC dili gyud mabayran ug kwarta kay daghan kaayo ko nga nakat-unan, sama sa pagmata ug sayo sa adlaw nga Domingo, apil ug bantay sa panahon sa Sinulog, ug pagpanglimpyo sa pier isip community outreach program... mao nga naka ingon gyud ko nga kapoy kaayo ang ROTC... hehehehehe... pero ganahan gyud ko ug ROTC...

  10. #400

    Default Re: ROTC: Ang pagbabalik

    Quote Originally Posted by BaDBoY
    Quote Originally Posted by lalakingbisdak
    Quote Originally Posted by phil_vigilante
    rotc is a required so ayaw nalang supak kay dili man gubat ang first purpose ana...disciplane na xa mga bro...

    ang di gusto mao tong mga di gusto magpadisciplina...
    Sure ka bai nga discipline ang purpose ana? Unsa may purpose ana kung dili gubat? What can u earn kung mahuman ka sa ROTC? Is it an advantage if you apply for a job here and abroad?
    niagi ka ba ug boyscout bay? duda ko wala sad kay nakat-unan sa imong pagka boyscout.. so kung mao man gani, gahi gyud deay ka makat-on... wakekekekekeke... kahibalo ba kaha ka sa meaning sa ROTC noh? aron sad makasabot ka kung para asa ang ROTC ba...
    Nag agi ko ug boyscout bai and I found it silly, camping, making fire and sleeping sa tent. Rediculous! Its not that I hate camping but I really hate the entire set-up. I tell u I took ROTC for a year lang, because ining second year nako, na voluntary naman na so I took CWTS. So far, I dont see any connection with ROTC sa ako pag eskwela. ROTC is not a requirement in applying for a job. Besides ang english sa ako commandant is really disgusting, I mean very poor. Maayo nalang nga ni graduate nako ug wala nako e follow how he speak english. Because if I did, di jud ko madawat sa ako karong gitrabahoan which english profeciency is a MUST.

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