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  1. #31

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?


    Quote Originally Posted by YJOB
    wa koy laing gusto ipangutana sa mga motuo sa kumpisal, tagai ko ninyo ug lig-on nga rason nganong dili man ta angay modretso kumpisal sa ginoo? nganong mag-agi pa man jud ug pari? unsa man, di diay ta paminawn kun modretso ta?
    Because that's the way God wants us to do it. In James 5:16, God, through Sacred Scripture, commands us to "confess our sins to one another." Notice, Scripture does not say confess your sins straight to God and only to God...it says confess your sins to one another.

    In Matthew, chapter 9, verse 6, Jesus tells us that He was given authority on earth to forgive sins. And then Scripture proceeds to tell us, in verse 8, that this authority was given to "men"...plural.

    In John 20, verses 21-23, what is the 1st thing Jesus says to the gathered disciples on the night of His resurrection? "Jesus said to them, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.'" How did the Father send Jesus? Well, we just saw in Mt 9 that the Father sent Jesus with the authority on earth to forgive sins. Now, Jesus sends out His disciples as the Father has sent Him...so, what authority must Jesus be sending His disciples out with? The authority on earth to forgive sins. And, just in case they didn't get it, verses 22-23 say this, "And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.'"

    Why would Jesus give the Apostles the power to forgive or to retain sins if He wasn't expecting folks to confess their sins to them? And how could they forgive or retain sins if no one was confessing their sins to them?

    The Bible tells us to confess our sins to one another. It also tells us that God gave men the authority on Earth to forgive sins. Jesus sends out His disciples with the authority on earth to forgive sins. When Catholics confess our sins to a priest, we are simply following the plan laid down by Jesus Christ. He forgives sins through the priest...it is God's power, but He exercises that power through the ministry of the priest.

  2. #32

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    James 5:16
    Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.

    Ang meaning ani is kanang makasala kas imohang ka isig ka tawo mangayo ka niya ug pasaylo ....

  3. #33

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    James 5:14-15

    Is any among you sick? Let him call for the presbyters [priests] of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

    James 5:16
    Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.
    Unsa na nga Bible imoha ....

    ang uban nga Bible dili man save ang naka butang ...
    kasagaran jud

    James 5:16

    So admit your sins to each other, and pray for each other so that you will be healed. Prayers offered by those who have God's approval are effective.






  4. #34

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    Because that's the way God wants us to do it. In James 5:16, God, through Sacred Scripture, commands us to "confess our sins to one another." Notice, Scripture does not say confess your sins straight to God and only to God...it says confess your sins to one another.

    In Matthew, chapter 9, verse 6, Jesus tells us that He was given authority on earth to forgive sins. And then Scripture proceeds to tell us, in verse 8, that this authority was given to "men"...plural.

    In John 20, verses 21-23, what is the 1st thing Jesus says to the gathered disciples on the night of His resurrection? "Jesus said to them, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.'" How did the Father send Jesus? Well, we just saw in Mt 9 that the Father sent Jesus with the authority on earth to forgive sins. Now, Jesus sends out His disciples as the Father has sent Him...so, what authority must Jesus be sending His disciples out with? The authority on earth to forgive sins. And, just in case they didn't get it, verses 22-23 say this, "And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.'"

    Why would Jesus give the Apostles the power to forgive or to retain sins if He wasn't expecting folks to confess their sins to them? And how could they forgive or retain sins if no one was confessing their sins to them?

    The Bible tells us to confess our sins to one another. It also tells us that God gave men the authority on Earth to forgive sins. Jesus sends out His disciples with the authority on earth to forgive sins. When Catholics confess our sins to a priest, we are simply following the plan laid down by Jesus Christ. He forgives sins through the priest...it is God's power, but He exercises that power through the ministry of the priest.
    Idea raman na sa nag Sulat ani bro .. i think na mis interpret ni cia ....

  5. #35

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Unsa na nga Bible imoha ....

    ang uban nga Bible dili man save ang naka butang ...
    kasagaran jud

    James 5:16

    So admit your sins to each other, and pray for each other so that you will be healed. Prayers offered by those who have God's approval are effective.
    pariha rana ang gmean bro. words lang ang nalahi but the same thought..

    mao na ako gclear sa tanan bro na b careful sa bible na a2 gipang basa krn ky lahi2x ang naginterpret ana
    so that means naa jud kalahian ang bible sa uban religion..

    new testament bro..


  6. #36

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    pariha rana ang gmean bro. words lang ang nalahi but the same thought..

    mao na ako gclear sa tanan bro na b careful sa bible na a2 gipang basa krn ky lahi2x ang naginterpret ana
    so that means naa jud kalahian ang bible sa uban religion..

    new testament bro..

    Tynadele New Testament na cia ambot unsa nga Denomination nag gamit ana ..

    sa Catholic and Protestant Bible "Healed" or "Cured" man naka butang misleading man gud kaau ug Save nga word ang naka basa mag libog kay ug mo ask ka forgiveness sa tawo nga nakasala ka ma Luwas naka or ma Langit ba ..... iba bro

    unsa imo kasulti ...

  7. #37

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Tynadele New Testament na cia ambot unsa nga Denomination nag gamit ana ..

    sa Catholic and Protestant Bible "Healed" or "Cured" man naka butang misleading man gud kaau ug Save nga word ang naka basa mag libog kay ug mo ask ka forgiveness sa tawo nga nakasala ka ma Luwas naka or ma Langit ba ..... iba bro

    unsa imo kasulti ...
    aw ambot sad ana try to think daw bro ani nga line f whats the best word an ni fit? "pray for each other so that you will be_____"; i think sad "saved" man guro ang word na nifit ana... dba f mupray ka maluwas ka d ka macured, but i think its the same way around..

  8. #38

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by amingb
    Idea raman na sa nag Sulat ani bro .. i think na mis interpret ni cia ....
    Kinsa may na mis interpret bro? ang Protestants or ang Catholic Church nga maoy nag himo ug tinobdanan sa pag compile sa bible? the bible is a catholic book...

  9. #39

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak
    Kinsa may na mis interpret bro? ang Protestants or ang Catholic Church nga maoy nag himo ug tinobdanan sa pag compile sa bible? the bible is a catholic book...
    mao na dakong pangutana bro.. wala ta kabasa sa orig jud na bible, usa pah d sad ta kbaw mutranslate kay latin man.. although naa makartanslate but ang mga nagtranslate lahi2x sad ug ideas..

  10. #40

    Default Re: Opinyon: Pagkumpisal sa pari, gi-acknowledge kaha ni sa Ginoo?

    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed
    aw ambot sad ana try to think daw bro ani nga line f whats the best word an ni fit? "pray for each other so that you will be_____"; i think sad "saved" man guro ang word na nifit ana... dba f mupray ka maluwas ka d ka macured, but i think its the same way around..
    Naka Study man ko ana bro katong nag before ko ning decide mag pa convert to Christian Churches ...

    Ang explanation ana nga Verse is ug makasala kas imoha ka tawo mangayo jud ka ug pasaylo niya PARA ang tawo maulian sa iyaha gi bati nga guilty cia .... so the right Term ana para nako is Cured or healed ....

    Dili sab puede mga mo ask ka forgiveness ni God diritso, ug katong tawo nga nakasala ka wala ka nangayo ug Pasaylo ... God will never accept your forgiveness ... diba ang order diha is Pray for each Other so both parties are envolved ..

    What u think Bro...



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