PMA wants ban on e-cigarettes

[Sarevok]

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But do you know bro, that based on our marketing survey globally majority of ecig users are EXISTING TOBACCO smokers. You read through forums of ecig users online and understand kung naa ba kay makit-an nga ecig user nga non-tobacco cigarette user. Those nga mag suway suway ug ecig kuno without experiencing the use of tobacco cigarettes are there to test the device and so far dili avid vapers. If ikaw mismo are not into smoking why would you try an ecig which is a smoking cessation device para lang mo suway suway?!?!

Plus, its the serious smokers who are switching to ecigs. The cost of owning a set of device is expensive (3k pesos), compared to simply buying a pack of cigarettes (50 pesos). So if di ka tig sigarilyo nga tawo, mo gasto ba ka ug 3k lang and in the end venture into smoking the ACTUAL/REAL cigarettes? Maypag mo derecho nalang ko palit ug sigarilyo kung mao ng storyaa.

again this goes back to your marketing strategy. dili man mustop ang time nga wala nay mamalit sa future. sa pagkakaron gamay pa ang epekto kay bago lang na nisikat. samtang nagkasikat na ni, macurious ang mga tao then, as stated sa inyong mga advertisement, makarealize sila na maayo man diay ni ang ecigar kay di makadaot then same sensation sa tinuod na sigarilyo. so asa sila padong? di sa ecigar... then tungod sa nicotine kay ma-"addict" na nuon sila. then in the end musuway na nuon sila sa tinuod na sigarilyo kay lagi way makapugong sa addiction.

[Eyemesem]

if you ban e-cigarettes then you have to ban everything else

it's stupid, *****ic, idiotic, binugo, inamaw to say that they want to ban e-cigarettes but then wala silay effort against the real thing

it's like saying, let's ban bath salts but cocaine is okay. or let's ban cough syrup but shabu is okay

there's no way to defend PMA on this. it's stupid, *****ic, idiotic, binogo, inamaw again and again and again and again and again...

if they will make an effort against the real thing, then i will fully support them

but in this case, all i'm seeing is that they're just puppets/lobbyists for the benefit of the real tobacco/cigarette manufacturers. their motive is as clear as a sunny day.

[Sarevok]

if you ban e-cigarettes then you have to ban everything else

it's stupid, *****ic, idiotic, binugo, inamaw to say that they want to ban e-cigarettes but then wala silay effort against the real thing

it's like saying, let's ban bath salts but cocaine is okay. or let's ban cough syrup but shabu is okay

there's no way to defend PMA on this. it's stupid, *****ic, idiotic, binogo, inamaw again and again and again and again and again...

do you think the government has the power to ban cigarettes entirely? unless our rulers are like that of davao then it is impossible. actually the government is already doing their best to curb out cigarettes. sin tax is one of them.

[Eyemesem]

do you think the government has the power to ban cigarretes entirely? unless our rulers are like that of davao then it is impossible. actually the government is already doing their best to curb out cigarettes. sin tax is one of them.

then apply the same thing to e-cigarettes. walay double standards. if you ban e-cig, then ban the real thing

don't try to make excuses by saying the government has no power to ban them. they can if they have the political will. but of course you and the apologists would make excuses for this government kesho lisod buhaton in reality. puro excuses, puro pamasangil, puro na lang naay rason nga dili pwede buhaton

[Sarevok]

then apply the same thing to e-cigarettes. walay double standards. if you ban e-cig, then ban the real thing

don't try to make excuses by saying the government has no power to ban them. they can if they have the political will

tell that to the government. i hate people who always complain.

as for the e-cigars, that is exactly what they are trying to do. they are trying to stop it before it gets out of hand just like the cigarettes.

[Eyemesem]

tell that to the government. i hate people who always complain.

as for the e-cigars, that is exactly what they are trying to do. they are trying to stop it before it gets out of hand just like the cigarettes.

and i hate people who don't complain and allow the government to put our taxes to waste. we are paying taxes. we have every right to complain and demand from them

no that is not clearly PMA's intention. their moves is to curb e-cigars in favor of the real ones. they don't care about our health because if they really do, they should be screaming their heads off against the real thing. instead kaning e-cigar RA ilang gidumtan

again why stop at e-cigars? why not also include the real thing. wala gyud kay tubag ana. puro ra ka excuses kesho naa naman ng cigar, lisod naman so pasagdi na lang na. that's BS! if sin tax lang ang tinood nga cigar then dapat sin tax ra sad ang e-cigar. if i ban ang e-cigar then i-ban sad ang tinood. ka SIMPOL!

[Sarevok]

and i hate people who don't complain and allow the government to put our taxes to waste. we are paying taxes. we have every right to complain and demand from them

no that is not clearly their intention. their moves is to curb e-cigars in favor of the real ones. they don't care about our health because if they really do, they should be screaming their heads off against the real thing. instead kaning e-cigar RA ilang gidumtan

again why stop at e-cigars? why not also include the real thing. wala gyud kay tubag ana. puro ra ka excuses kesho naa naman ng cigar, lisod naman so pasagdi na lang na. that's BS! if sin tax lang ang tinood nga cigar then dapat sin tax ra sad ang e-cigar. if i ban ang e-cigar then i-ban sad ang tinood. ka SIMPOL!

yep it IS that simple. now make them government leaders understand that. or better yet, go and run for president or something. do you think they just make laws/bills in a blink of an eye?

[high_heels]

again this goes back to your marketing strategy. dili man mustop ang time nga wala nay mamalit sa future. sa pagkakaron gamay pa ang epekto kay bago lang na nisikat. samtang nagkasikat na ni, macurious ang mga tao then, as stated sa inyong mga advertisement, makarealize sila na maayo man diay ni ang ecigar kay di makadaot then same sensation sa tinuod na sigarilyo. so asa sila padong? di sa ecigar... then tungod sa nicotine kay ma-"addict" na nuon sila. then in the end musuway na nuon sila sa tinuod na sigarilyo kay lagi way makapugong sa addiction.

Bro, gradual ang nicotine content sa eliquid. You can vape a 16 mg eliquid and go down all the way to 0mg nicotine as you progress. Pustaanay ta bro, kanang gi ingon ninyo nga non tobacco smokers nga na addict na hinuon sa nicotine tungod sa ecig device, I dare those non tobacco smokers who became serious vapers to come out and tell me straight here nga na ADDICT mo sa nicotine tungod sa ecigs, and from ecigs ni switch mo to real tobacco cigarettes. Kung naa man gani diri istoryan nga ing-ana, sige isaka inyong tiil, este kamot..este comment diay mo diri. Ayaw ng mga comment nga "naa koy kaila" and "i know someone" blah blah blah....

For the record, its NOT the nicotine that kills a smoker. It's the tar, toxins and carcinogens that are in cigarette smoke. Yes nicotine can be addictive, but it is NOT the killer in this scenario. Don't you know that eggplants and tomatoes have natural nicotine ingredients? Kana bro, example ra na.

To add, diri ra na sa Pilipinas bag o ang ecig. Sa US, Europe, and other Asian countries hagbay ra na ang ecigs. Do you know why until now ang FDA dili ka regulate ug sakto sa ecig?!?! Has anyone thought that maybe dili sila mismo ka pinpoint sa flaw sa ecigs and eliquids?

The industry of ecigs are shaking the boots of tobacco manufacturers, its an evolution and revolution to a very old social problem of smoking. Kana lang daan, nagpanikad na ang tycoons of tobacco companies.

Lastly, if dili ka ecig vaper, di gyud ka maka relate sa among lifestyle and why we are hook to ecigs. Kay kung sigarilyo inyong basehan sa ecig, well, di gyud ta magka sinabot. Kay sa laktod nga pagka storya, vapers ang STIGMATIZED by the bad reputation of cigarette smoking. That is what we "VAPERS" are fighting for, kay the stigma being placed over our heads by the uneducated (for the lack of better word) society is that we are SMOKERS. When in fact, we are NOT! We are VAPERS!

[Sarevok]

Bro, gradual ang nicotine content sa eliquid. You can vape a 16 mg eliquid and go down all the way to 0mg nicotine as you progress. Pustaanay ta bro, kanang gi ingon ninyo nga non tobacco smokers nga na addict na hinuon sa nicotine tungod sa ecig device, I dare those non tobacco smokers who became serious vapers to come out and tell me straight here nga na ADDICT mo sa nicotine tungod sa ecigs, and from ecigs ni switch mo to real tobacco cigarettes. Kung naa man gani diri istoryan nga ing-ana, sige isaka inyong tiil, este kamot..este comment diay mo diri. Ayaw ng mga comment nga "naa koy kaila" and "i know someone" blah blah blah....

For the record, its NOT the nicotine that kills a smoker. It's the tar, toxins and carcinogens that are in cigarette smoke. Yes nicotine can be addictive, but it is NOT the killer in this scenario. Don't you know that eggplants and tomatoes have natural nicotine ingredients? Kana bro, example ra na.

Lastly, if dili ka ecig vaper, di gyud ka maka relate sa among lifestyle and why we are hook to ecigs. Kay kung sigarilyo inyong basehan sa ecig, well, di gyud ta magka sinabot. Kay sa laktod nga pagka storya, vapers ang STIGMATIZED by the bad reputation of cigarette smoking. That is what we "VAPERS" are fighting for, kay the stigma being placed over our heads by the uneducated (for the lack of better word) society is that we are SMOKERS. When in fact, we are NOT! We are VAPERS!

as mentioned earlier in my post a few pages back, I said that this ecigar marketing is not a one time big time approach. it is ongoing and would still be until ecigars are stopped. I didn't mention about knowing someone who is a non-smoker, instead I said something about enticing non smokers to smoke which by the way was the main point of the news. now go and smoke eggplants.

[high_heels]

as mentioned earlier in my post a few pages back, I said that this ecigar marketing is not a one time big time approach. it is ongoing and would still be until ecigars are stopped. I didn't mention about knowing someone who is a non-smoker, instead I said something about enticing non smokers to smoke which by the way was the main point of the news. now go and smoke eggplants.

And I am pointing out to you that according to you "enticing non smokers to smoke which by the way was the main point of the news" <------ this is a FALSE claim not backed up by studies and research.

Oh by the way, I dont smoke an eggplant, I chopped them and cook them on my stove and eat it. Now don't you do the same?!?!
So next time you see an eggplant and tomato, you might want to stay away from eating it...As you know, the NICOTINE in those can be soooooooooo addictive!

purf!