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  1. #31

    Sa wala pako nag grade 1, ge indoctrinate nako sa akong amahan mahitungod sa tinuod nga kina-iya ni aguinaldo, nga dili siya dapat tawagon nga bayani (philippine hero), o bisan lang una nga presidente sa Pilipinas.

    Maayo unta mapasa ni sa atong mga kabatan-onan mahitungod niining Republic of Visayas.

  2. #32
    still, US do have good intentions. d ko mka imagine if this small archipelago states would be bound with stupid tiny border wars... uniting this archipelago was the best thing US did, but Manila receiving all the credits that's a dog breed out from a bulldog and a shit tzu!

  3. #33
    sauna pani gubot ang philippines.hehehehehehehe ga unay rata.

  4. #34
    Another worthwhile article Deadstring67

    I come from a line of people whom have this personal enmity towards Aguinaldo for killing one of our ancestors. This feud has become more of a distant memory as time goes by but still have relatives who look at the Red, White and Blue Marharlika flag with disdain and calls it the "traitor's flag". Aguinaldo's way of taking and manipulating his way to power is a perfect caricature of modern Philippine politics. As for me I do not see the point of continuing these antiquated hate anymore but these facts and overshadowed part of our history needed to be exposed.

    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    still, US do have good intentions. d ko mka imagine if this small archipelago states would be bound with stupid tiny border wars...
    Same thing here. And at the end of the day the question is 'What for?' The good thing about this country is that we've become multicultural through natural means (ie. through factors of time and geography) and not by government or state coercion. We were not conditioned to be ultra sensitive about any particular ethnic background we belong to but to only one - as Filipinos.

  5. #35
    wow tinood di ai to gi ingon sa akong maestro regarding ani... but why wa man gi recognized ni sa government? but it is already in the past so okay ra...

  6. #36
    kapoya basa,taas kaau,pru ineteresting,kay kron pko ani federal republic visayas...bahin nun ni E. Aguinaldo,nka dungog na nuon ko,kay lgi di daw xa angayan tawgon hero.....may nlang pud ni mpa ambit ntos uban sama nko na kron pa nka balo.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by machinecult View Post
    Another worthwhile article Deadstring67

    I come from a line of people whom have this personal enmity towards Aguinaldo for killing one of our ancestors. This feud has become more of a distant memory as time goes by but still have relatives who look at the Red, White and Blue Marharlika flag with disdain and calls it the "traitor's flag". Aguinaldo's way of taking and manipulating his way to power is a perfect caricature of modern Philippine politics. As for me I do not see the point of continuing these antiquated hate anymore but these facts and overshadowed part of our history needed to be exposed.



    Same thing here. And at the end of the day the question is 'What for?' The good thing about this country is that we've become multicultural through natural means (ie. through factors of time and geography) and not by government or state coercion. We were not conditioned to be ultra sensitive about any particular ethnic background we belong to but to only one - as Filipinos.
    yep, although a bit unfair for us here below. But even the US decided it would be Manila since it is strategically located and can easily be defended plus the fact that almost all important government structures are located their already (sadly the most prominent and educated as well). It's only a matter of who gets to sit as head (american governor general), as long as the public service is fair for all parts of the country.

    non the less positive side having a city the capital or location or location of almost all government buildings is that industries, education, etc would be an eye magnet for investors. And with the fact that mindanao is not yet "tamed" so the risk of having the capital in Visayas would be too high as history tells of regular raids from pirates in mindanao (not just muslims, to be fair).

  8. #38
    For me, it was a blessing that the Americans came. If not, civil war for a much longer time would happen as what the article sad about the Visayans not accepting the Tagalogs. Tag of war, alliances, traitors, etc would be the result. All in all, we are all gonna suffer.

    If a tagalog would claim the seat for the republic at that time of the brief independence, surely the visayans and other tribal lords in parts of mindanao would not recognize him and claim it for themselves. Mas maau gyud neutral ang ni puli. Anyway, I read somewhere before that after the war of US and Spain... the US felt the obligation to govern the Philippine Islands as they themselves feel many would die if they let us be waging war ourselves. Pareha nahitabo sah Afghanistan before during the cold war, ila gitabangan den gibyaan and nahitabo daghan patay after they left.

  9. #39
    very nice interesting article . never knew this one . to the thread poster

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    For me, it was a blessing that the Americans came. If not, civil war for a much longer time would happen as what the article sad about the Visayans not accepting the Tagalogs. Tag of war, alliances, traitors, etc would be the result. All in all, we are all gonna suffer.

    If a tagalog would claim the seat for the republic at that time of the brief independence, surely the visayans and other tribal lords in parts of mindanao would not recognize him and claim it for themselves. Mas maau gyud neutral ang ni puli. Anyway, I read somewhere before that after the war of US and Spain... the US felt the obligation to govern the Philippine Islands as they themselves feel many would die if they let us be waging war ourselves. Pareha nahitabo sah Afghanistan before during the cold war, ila gitabangan den gibyaan and nahitabo daghan patay after they left.

    sakto ka bro.. gubot jd ang afghanistan after ni hawa ang US. mao sad naay bin laden tungod nila. CIA/FBI trained man daw to cya.

    Pero kong akoy pa but on.. mas nindot under ta sa US unta. same sa nahitabo sa Hawaii og uban pang mga nasod.
    at least mas hayahay pa cla kaysa sa nahitabo sa atong nasod karon. isig iyahay lang og panagan para maka kwarta. mga oligarch samot ka datu.
    Nindot man sad cguro ang Federal Republic of the Philippines ta kaysa Republic. diba Federal man sad na ang US.if sakto ko.

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