Erap or GMA:who achieved more towards uplifting the life of the average Filipino

[noelkoi]

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all of the above..

both of them are leach!!!

[riko diko]

i think you didn't read the entire message. i've mentioned there i'm a witness to some of those projects while some i've seen during my travels and some from my friends who happens to be one of the beneficiaries.

that's the very reason why i've admired her since. GMA is the hard-working type and when she says she'll be doing it right away. she'll be setting her targets because she is for results.

can you cite here erap's achievements?

on erap's achievements: read your post again and change every GMA word to Erap, that would be my answer. why? 'coz all you've mentioned are standard. not an achievement in any way. not at all. both presidents are standards. the usual. i don't get it why she is so special to you.

on your reason why you admire her: that's it?!!! think! those petty achievements are it?! think!

on your witnessing on her good acts: didn't you witness what she did last elections? think!

try reading the post of "bfginus" above yours, you'll see that erap's achievements are standards also. nothing special. think!

[my_pet_monster]

what say i?

all these false alleluias are nothing but a vain attempt at painting a rosy picture of the country's deplorable condition under the present grip of the powergrabber at malacanang.

life today under gma's rule better off than that in erap's time? hogwash.

STOP that crap.

You have no knowledge 'bout these programs you already called it false. It's real for me, because it really is and I can attest to that. Like that SEA-K I'm talking about, I was a volunteer assistant for social workers years ago. I was there when the assigned social worker was giving lectures about basic business management and explaining the mechanics of the program. I've been to many places here in the Philippines and I've seen these botika ng baranggay, all DSWD regional branch have SEA-K program. All who have benefited from it are glad that a program as such increase. Why don't you visit DSWD and try asking them? Better, if you avail of that non-collateral loan I'm talking about.

I also have friends working in the farm, they don't blame the president or anybody else for their present status in life. They're happy knowing that their doing a decent job. It depends how we look at things. For every problem, there's a solution. You need not blame anybody else.

If all those programs are false, we won't be seeing those in the newspapers.

my friend, your brief foray into the countrysides to take part in the delivery of a few social services does not make you a better judge of the country's socio-economic condition.

practically all the services you mentioned had been part of every national government's program before.
erap had had his own poverty alleviation program that benefited the underprileged. LGUs like the Cebu provincial government (under the administration of then Gov. Vicente de la Serna) provided an even more comprehensive delivery of basic services aimed at people empowerment. one of the components of such services was the provision of free medicines and other health services to certified indigent beneficiaries. certain cebu congressmen also provide similar medical assistance to their poor constituents.

my point is that the delivery of services you mentioned is not a monopoly of gma. such services are just part of the common, ordinary fare dished out by any government administration that goes through the motion of ordinary governance.

what made the gma alleluiah kind of phony is that it tended to give the impression gloria had performed an exemplary act of statemanship which made a difference in the people's socio-economic life - when in fact she did not.

im no erap's fan but i dare say, life today is worse off than it was under the erap administration. go ask the common wage earners, the fisherfolk, poor farmworkers at hacienda luisita, the jeepney drivers, the lowly government employees, the factory workers, the ordinary man in the street, who constitute the bulk of population.

go ask them if their lives have been considerably better with gma's supposed "achievements" that you relayed to the readers.

no, let's not blame the media for the bleak national landscape that's staring us in the face. their message are but a reflection of the true sad state of the nation today.

blame the malacanang praise releases instead for the false sense of progress the have foisted upon the filipino people. gma's propaganda machine has been working round the clock, devising every clever deception in the book to hide the tragic reality under the present dispensation.

and these gma and her cohorts do, all for the love of power.

There’s what we call continuation of good projects that former administrations left as a legacy. I didn’t say it was GMA’s sole contribution. Other things I’d mentioned here were based from 2001-2003 data. But some projects is still ongoing.

Excuse me friend, but I don’t pretend to know everything. I’m just sharing what I know and from what I’ve experienced.

Indeed, every LGU has similar projects. But, here’s one contribution that came from the GMA’s personal belongings. When she was encouraging people to support CARP, she took the initiative to donate her inherited land in Iligan City.

Isn’t Hacienda Luisita a property of the Cojuangco’s. Former President Cory Aquino is one of the owners, yet she didn’t donate even a small part of land to the farmers.

I’m not saying we’re living in luxury or the economy is at its outstanding status. But, I believe that what the country is experiencing today is due to our deteriorated political system and of course the inevitable domino effect of oil price hike. Speaking or economy, before the political noise, our GNP rose a year ago and peso strengthened for 7 months in a row and our credit ratings was even upgraded.

[bfginus]

@ pet monster... written pretty well. but those aren't achievements. those are things that a president should do. try posting relevant achievements. those that really matter.
erap has a lot of those petty achievements like you've posted. we can't dwell on those things, right?!. btw, check your figures, they sound good and funny. it would be better if it were seen and felt, not just heard. tsk tsk..

the only president that made achievements that matter is marcos. ramos... maybe, cory... cha cha i guess.

i think you didn't read the entire message. i've mentioned there i'm a witness to some of those projects while some i've seen during my travels and some from my friends who happens to be one of the beneficiaries.

and you know what? when i visited one brgy in Manila and told them of the project, i remember what the bystander told me. erap during his administration promised them a livelihood project but that promise has gone with the wind. they were surprised that GMA was true to her word.

that's the very reason why i've admired her since. GMA is the hard-working type and when she says she'll be doing it right away. she'll be setting her targets because she is for results.

can you cite here erap's achievements?

let me have my take on this. for my part, i've read your entire message, and even acknowledged your fleeting part in the delivery of the services you mentioned. you relied partly on a friend's account and partly on a project in which you participated (and which you attributed to gloria) to prove that life is now much better than during erap's time.

but, as i pointed out, this fact does not make you a better judge of the philippine socio-economic reality. hodge-podge information, first-hand or otherwise, cannot make for a sound basis for a general conclusion. a part is not the whole.

erap had had his share of fulfilled presidential vows, and gloria has had her share of unfulffiled election promises. if you doubt this, just check out gma's acceptance speech in 2002 and her election promises in 2004 and find out if word of honor is in her book.

based on my first-hand knowledge, gma made would make a promise just to win votes even if such promise would prove prejudicial to public interest.

but making promises is not her only forte, she could lie through her teeth just to perpetuate herself in power. it is her lies and deception which brought this country to its present pass. it her lies, too, which pass the blame to us people for alleged failure on our part to help the government rise to greatness.

i pity the filipino people under erap's administration. i pity them even more under gma's rule.