Ways to minimize/Eliminate Corruption in the Philippines

[emow]

No. 1 sounds brilliant. Now, describe to us how you expect this to be accomplished and how long before we get to feel the effects of such changes. Take into account the 'quality' of our leadership right now and the 'representatives' of the people in congress and the senate, and the rest of the population.

No. 2 is equally inspiring. But how do we deal with the labor unions and the laborers themselves who will certainly cry foul. The minimum wage as it is is not enough, they will tell you. Eliminate the child labor act?! I can tell you don't have any children yet. Seriously, if you are referring to eliminating RA 9231, will it be fine then to let children work 48 hour weeks of hard labor? Or to be prostituted by their parents like what happened to a family in Cordova? The RH bill will not be necessary then and the 'poor' can go forth and multiply. More children, more workers, more income for the family.. No coercion, just a valid contract for the children... How's that for Liberty?

Obviously, these are huge tasks, but walk us through (realistically and not hypothetically) the means to reach the end that you preach, and not just directly to the Utopian end.

If the very arbiters of the death penalty are corrupted, then death to them too. And the next batch, and the next, until lessons are learned.

1. The results will be slow but at least it is going towards liberty. Afterall, the politics of man is only of two extremes, slavery and liberty, choose which one you want to go. The quality of leadership will slowly be unrelated to the economy. As social programs will be removed, so too will the size of government. The government will only be limited to national defense, protection of natural rights, and enforcement of contracts. A complete separation of the State, Church, and Economy will be most ideal. If we cannot achieve it totally, at least we should be as close to that ideal as possible.

2. Yes, indeed you have some points. But the ill effects of the enforcement of these laws are much more worse. If parents will prostitute their children, they will still be answerable to the law even with the absence of the Child Labor Act. Many entrepreneurs are the result of business experience while they were still young. People who are poor cannot go to school back then, but they can apply for jobs. Yes, their jobs maybe miserable but many of them develop the entrepreneurial spirit from their experience with hands on business in the real world. That has propelled many out from poverty, not solely attributed to education. With the Child Labor Act in place, many OSY are on the streets, prone for bad influence. They have opt to spend their time mugging other people, harassing other people, and stealing from other people. Heck, they are even in hired-to-kill business now, because there was no other way for them to get employment.

Minimum wage is anti-business, and anti-employee as well. For start-up businesses, fulfilling the minimum wage can be very difficult and many opt to forego of their plans to do business in this country. It is anti-employee as well, because it makes employees stay as employees much easier than for them to start their own businesses. The entry barrier is so high that employees rather stay in their job, or get fired and stay on the streets. The minimum wage discriminates, indirectly, with the illiterate people. Businesses will now screen all employees with their academic record to suffice the minimum wage they would pay. Cost-Benefit analysis even on jobs that would not really require a high level of education.

The labor unions are anti-employees as well and anti-business. These unions only care for their members and the welfare of their memebers. They don't usually care for outside employees,in fact, they will block the business from hiring outside employees. There will be employees being discriminated and they get involve with the decisions of the business which is a violation of the right to property, in principle.

It will not be fine for Children working 48 hours a week but it will not also be fine for children to be 24/7 in a gang. Choose.

[bagtaksalamok]

unta lng jud nga gidawat to saona ang offer sa US nga himuon ang pinas og usa sa mga state sa USA, like Hawaii.
awa ninyo ang Hawaii before kato wala pa cla nagpa state sa US, and now after.

[eezychair]

1. The results will be slow but at least it is going towards liberty. Afterall, the politics of man is only of two extremes, slavery and liberty, choose which one you want to go. The quality of leadership will slowly be unrelated to the economy. As social programs will be removed, so too will the size of government. The government will only be limited to national defense, protection of natural rights, and enforcement of contracts. A complete separation of the State, Church, and Economy will be most ideal. If we cannot achieve it totally, at least we should be as close to that ideal as possible.

2. Yes, indeed you have some points. But the ill effects of the enforcement of these laws are much more worse. If parents will prostitute their children, they will still be answerable to the law even with the absence of the Child Labor Act. Many entrepreneurs are the result of business experience while they were still young. People who are poor cannot go to school back then, but they can apply for jobs. Yes, their jobs maybe miserable but many of them develop the entrepreneurial spirit from their experience with hands on business in the real world. That has propelled many out from poverty, not solely attributed to education. With the Child Labor Act in place, many OSY are on the streets, prone for bad influence. They have opt to spend their time mugging other people, harassing other people, and stealing from other people. Heck, they are even in hired-to-kill business now, because there was no other way for them to get employment.

Minimum wage is anti-business, and anti-employee as well. For start-up businesses, fulfilling the minimum wage can be very difficult and many opt to forego of their plans to do business in this country. It is anti-employee as well, because it makes employees stay as employees much easier than for them to start their own businesses. The entry barrier is so high that employees rather stay in their job, or get fired and stay on the streets. The minimum wage discriminates, indirectly, with the illiterate people. Businesses will now screen all employees with their academic record to suffice the minimum wage they would pay. Cost-Benefit analysis even on jobs that would not really require a high level of education.

The labor unions are anti-employees as well and anti-business. These unions only care for their members and the welfare of their memebers. They don't usually care for outside employees,in fact, they will block the business from hiring outside employees. There will be employees being discriminated and they get involve with the decisions of the business which is a violation of the right to property, in principle.

It will not be fine for Children working 48 hours a week but it will not also be fine for children to be 24/7 in a gang. Choose.

OT: Brian Micklethwait will be impressed with the way you opine.

So how long before we achieve this Liberty that you preach of? One generation? 2? At what expense? Death by starvation to the millions who cannot find jobs? Under whose leadership? How do you see the transition from the present state to the one that you envision?

Come on, let's be real here. Perhaps if you can site a country or a place where the ideals that you are trying to convince many exists, or even a time in history when it flourished, it will be easier to comprehend and believable to happen.

[emow]

OT: its best not to express opinion for other people other than themselves.... there's no intellectual value in it...

How long? exactly i don't know how long, but yes, there will be temporary starvation, price inflation, and unemployment as a consequence of transition of correcting the socialist policies... The people who are completely dependent on welfare programs will be most affected... But the people who are standing on their own will feel no or less negative effects... Just like the treatment of a debilitating disease, operations and rehabilitations may cause more pain than the disease itself, but at least the disease will be cured in the long run... Just like withdrawing from addiction, the withdrawal symptoms are unavoidable but necessary to be rid of the addiction...

Let's be real... The perfect example of the concept of Liberty is the Founding of the US republic... another example is the loosening of China's economic control, giving way for the free market (economic liberty) to alleviate their poverty. Deng Xiao Peng reversed his communist ideals and was convinced that a more freer market is desirable. That was the start of the awakening of the sleeping giant. It didn't took more than 3 years for them to achieve economic success, and after 10 years, they become an economic power giant.

The economic highs of many nations are due to political economy of liberty, and the economic lows of many nations are brought about by political economy of redistributing wealth for all citizens... The world is always in the economic spectrum of socialism on one extreme and liberty on the other. The closer a nation is in the extreme of liberty, the greater is their economic prosperity.

[eezychair]

OT: its best not to express opinion for other people other than themselves.... there's no intellectual value in it...

How long? exactly i don't know how long, but yes, there will be temporary starvation, price inflation, and unemployment as a consequence of transition of correcting the socialist policies... The people who are completely dependent on welfare programs will be most affected... But the people who are standing on their own will feel no or less negative effects... Just like the treatment of a debilitating disease, operations and rehabilitations may cause more pain than the disease itself, but at least the disease will be cured in the long run... Just like withdrawing from addiction, the withdrawal symptoms are unavoidable but necessary to be rid of the addiction...

Let's be real... The perfect example of the concept of Liberty is the Founding of the US republic... another example is the loosening of China's economic control, giving way for the free market (economic liberty) to alleviate their poverty. Deng Xiao Peng reversed his communist ideals and was convinced that a more freer market is desirable. That was the start of the awakening of the sleeping giant. It didn't took more than 3 years for them to achieve economic success, and after 10 years, they become an economic power giant.

The economic highs of many nations are due to political economy of liberty, and the economic lows of many nations are brought about by political economy of redistributing wealth for all citizens... The world is always in the economic spectrum of socialism on one extreme and liberty on the other. The closer a nation is in the extreme of liberty, the greater is their economic prosperity.

it was my opinion that Mr. Micklethwait would be impressed and yes, for those who know, there is intellectual value to it.

Now for your perfect example of your concept of liberty, try again. Where is reality of your concept of liberty in the US? You just criticized Obama in another thread. 'The founding of the US republic' you say? Where are they now in relation to your concept of liberty? Maybe Ron Paul can bring back that concept, but has to win first. Will he? And China? They remain communists as far as i know. Economic liberty, perhaps but not quite, but what about the other liberties.

A concrete example of a country now or in the past, including Bastiats time where the law was not perverted, and liberty as you have defined existed. That would be enlightening.

[emow]

it was my opinion that Mr. Micklethwait would be impressed and yes, for those who know, there is intellectual value to it.


Now for your perfect example of your concept of liberty, try again. Where is reality of your concept of liberty in the US? You just criticized Obama in another thread. 'The founding of the US republic' you say? Where are they now in relation to your concept of liberty? Maybe Ron Paul can bring back that concept, but has to win first. Will he? And China? They remain communists as far as i know. Economic liberty, perhaps but not quite, but what about the other liberties.

A concrete example of a country now or in the past, including Bastiats time where the law was not perverted, and liberty as you have defined existed. That would be enlightening.

OT: don't assume that all people know the people you know...by passing judgement for Micklethwait does qualify for an opinion but doesn't give any intellectual value for people who doesn't know Micklethwait...
Are you against liberty? or you are just trying to be disagreeable?

Liberty is the constant struggle of man. I criticize Obama because he is not for Liberty but for more government control. Can't you see the economic disaster he has caused? The founding fathers of the US were for individual rights, free commerce, no income taxation, no war without declaration, and no entangling alliances with any nation. Aside from tariffs and slavery of negros, they were at the highest point of political attainment of Liberty so far in any nation... They have an average of almost 0 inflation rate, people were free to do what they want as long as they don't abuse their freedom by trampling on others' freedom... That was the scenario of the US for 200 years... but of course, there were already socialists who wish to shape men under their own versions of what they ought to be...

There are no absolutes in this world... but that doesn't mean the absence of absolute liberty makes the struggle towards it worthless...Is there any man who has been 100% honest in his entire life? Does that make honesty a terrible trait? Does the struggle towards honesty becomes a foolish journey? The world is always on a constant struggle and you choose where you want to be...more control or more liberty?

Ron Paul has already planted the seeds of the concept of Liberty and made it relevant again by this generation... He is within the top three spots, depending on which survey you will base your conclusion upon. Out of all candidates, he is the only one who wants to cut power from the government. That coming from a politician is very rare... If he is "unwinnable", that doesn't necessarily make his beliefs invalid... majority of the US army, active and inactive, supports Ron Paul more than their current commander in chief...

China is no longer a communist state...its political field is still fully controlled by the communist party but the economic field has been greatly loosened, much to the displeasure of the hardline communist members... Deng Xiao Peng indirectly acknowledged the practicality of giving more liberty in the economy...

The law has become perverted because it dives beyond the issue of right to life, liberty and property...

[behemothharr]

maski pa tingale ug naa tay death penalty nya walay ngipon ug wala na tarong ang atong balaod maka ikyas ra ghapon ng mga kurakot. madala ra na nila ug smile.

SK pa gani kahibaw na kaau mangurakot, samot na kung magpadayun.

at least if we have such existing law, mag panagana na mangawat.malas lang ang madutlan.

[sancarlos]

1. Yes, could be a good so;ution. Cutting down the tax means cutting down the money to corrupt. However, they might tighten the belt on budget and just continue with the corruption.

[sancarlos]

Yeah, we can't stop if we don't start to stop it...Its like we are now used to the smell of the garbage so that we don't anymore realize that its there. Well, we are the different few who has not been numbed by the smell of corruption. We at least need to remind the people and hopefully these people can make a difference.

[sancarlos]

By nature humans are good. It is his sorroundings that made him evil. So I think there is still hope to bring back that natural instincts of humans