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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by jimskie d great View Post
    @o0ella0o....sakto jd au ka nga breeder bro....not like the breeder i had encounter na he is jst clearly aftering for the money....my vet advice me that if i will get a pup...much beter if it has complete vacination b4 i get it....s o i tried to tell the breeder bout it...he jst told me that if he will complete the vacination it will be charge to me.....grabe ra ka nawng og kwarta...he coudnt spend a hundred of pesos for it....grabe ka pamogasay....where in fact the puppy cost for 10k plus...then 300+ ra d ka gasto...i had jst lost the puppy because she was just atack with a parvo virus..she has 2/3 shots when she die....
    Jimskie,

    I felt sorry for your loss but you can't go blaming the breeder (me) for the death of your puppy. Before you bought the puppy you were made aware that it had been vaccinated only once and that you should take it to the vet for the next shot before the recommended period lapsed, which I told you is between 2 to 4 weeks. You were also given the vaccination card and the entries therein were clearly explained to you. You were given all the necessary information that you needed to know... and it was even posted in the ads. Nobody pointed a gun at your head and forced you to buy the puppy. You were free to decide and you decided to buy it.

    It was a very healthy puppy. When you took her home the responsibility of taking care of this living creature had now been laid in your hands. It was now your responsibility as the new owner that she be given all the necessary vaccinations that she needed and to make sure that she was not exposed to potential sources of diseases especially that she had not received her complete vaccinations yet.

    Had you told me that you wanted it fully-vaccinated before you take it home that would have been fine with me because I have had some buyers in the past who made similar arrangements with me also. In fact, one of the 2 female puppies I have right now is already paid for and will be claimed by the buyer when it is 3 months old - at which time the puppy will have been completely vaccinated.

    After the purchase you txted me because you wanted to buy the remaining puppy that I had but we were not able to make a deal because you shamelessly haggled for almost half the selling price.

    Two days after that I offered to sell you the same puppy for 10k only on the condition that you get the puppy that SAME DAY for the very reason that I would be busy with some projects down south the next few weeks. I had nobody else to take care of the puppies for me since my wife is also working and my 2 helpers left a few weeks ago. Still no deal because despite the already very big discount I offered you you wanted me to complete the vaccinations as well which would defeat the reason of my selling it you at a very discounted price.

    For me to complete the vaccinations means that I will have to keep the puppy for another month because these vaccines are not to be administered altogether at the same time - which means additional cost not only for the vaccines but also for food, supplements, and for the 'caregiver'.

    There are costs involved in producing these puppies. Even before the mating I have already spent on supplements to condition the dam in order to improve its fertility. After whelping, the nursing dam had to be fed puppy food, milk and some more supplements. And the stud service is not for free. You know the owner of the sire. Call him and ask him how much I paid for his stud's service.

    Is it wrong for me to consider these costs when I put the price tag on my puppies? I'm sure there are also certain costs that you also took into account when you posted your BM King for sale for 13K just a couple of months after you bought him for just half that price.

    Pamogasay? If you're looking for charity you came to the wrong place.

    You don't know me, kid. So don't judge me. Show some respect and it will be returned to you.



    Rod

  2. #32
    we are dealing with creatures with LIFE.
    vaccinations are there only to minimize the probability;

    ask ourselves, have we done enough to protect our pup?
    with the fact that we know his vaccs is not complete yet,
    have we done enough measures to prevent him from catching
    these deadly diseases? or we are the one mismo that exposed him to it?

    we cant always put the blame on the seller, the puppy is with us already.
    he (seller) has limited or no control already of the situation.
    admit it, youre partly to blame, even a major party to the blame.

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    either what you said is true, or ang statement ba sa breeder ang tinood, di jud nimo mablame ang breeder ana. kay ikaw man ang buyer, you made the call. after all the lapses nga imo tan-aw gibuhat sa breeder, gipalit gihapon nimo. you have all the options not to buy the puppy, pwede nimo tana to gibalibaran, but still imo gihapon gipalit. hibalo ka sa estado sa puppy, hibalo ka na kulang vaccination. apil sa imong pagpalit ang responsibilidad ug ang risk sa pwede mahitabo sa puppy.

    kung mobaligya ka ug puppy, syempre naa ka costing ana. overhead expenses etc. kung moingon ang breeder mobaligya ko ani na amount, with this inclusion only, natural, pag naa ka additional na gusto, it goes to say na naa na na additional fee. ang pricing is solely the discretion of the seller. never the buyer. di ka pwede magboot kung pila iya ipresyo. if its rediculously expensive, then by all means do not buy it. find other breeders where you get your moneys worth.

  4. #34
    i am sorry if i offend somebody....i was just so depresed during that time, and come into my thoughts that if the puppy recieved her 2nd shot on time..probably it wont hapen.....kalma lng boss rod....im jst expresing what i feel........im not trying to ruin your business....thanx

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    hehehehe. nilapse jud diay ang iya second shot. didto nasayop. dapat gisunod nimo to didto gisulat sa card kung kanus-a siya ipabalik, naa man na sa vet card.

  6. #36
    btw depende ra man jud na sa agreement btwn the two parties (breeder & buyer) f dapat b4 release ang pup, complete na vaccines or ang buyer na mo shoulder sa uban. unfair pud bya i-blame sa breeder, as a buyer dapat pud u know ur obligations.

  7. #37
    n lapse na ang 2nd shot dd2 pa sa breeder.....hahay buhay

  8. #38
    this is a big lesson for me as a newbie in this field of hobby im in 2......hehehehehe

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by robby_lee View Post
    Jimskie,

    After the purchase you txted me because you wanted to buy the remaining puppy that I had but we were not able to make a deal because you shamelessly haggled for almost half the selling price.
    DiZ StaTeMeNt MaDe My DaY........ahaha

    Xa d.i nKaPaLit Sa iMuNg PuPz Bai RoL......ahaha

  10. #40
    shamelessly haggled for almost half the selling price.

    sa iya nmn 2 manghod bro...ghatag mn daw 2...dn g baligya sa iya manghod nko...
    pro wla ko namogos og maayo a2 bro...iya ra manghod nanghagad a2 kay y lain buyer...

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