Unsa mn jd? ang PANA or ang INDIAN?

[tackielarla]

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^ +1. It really depends on the situation. So if you're a pro that demands the best out of your equipment, its 80/20 or 70/30 gadget/indian ratio.

[FranZeno]

murg bsag asa nimo tnawn, it will still depend on the situation and own preference..each complements eachother jd..

mura ra gd na sa saying na, "Machines are dumb, humans are smart. But humans are slow, and machines are fast." or "One those not live without the other", so there's no photographer kung way camera and v/v.

[homeryap]

+1
but i have to admit that not all cameras are alike. just like in making large format printings you need a large format cam. so again it depends on the situation. and if you're into printing pics larger than A4 then you are better off using a cam with higher MP and is able to tone down the noise (more advanced cam).

[arisarnado]

An example for landscape photography would be shooting the same scene at different times. One at a cloudy overcast day, the other at a fair day and in golden hour.

When shooting on a gloomy day, despite all your skills and equipment, you would be hard-press to come up with outputs that can compete with those shot in the best light.

Another example:
Susan Boyle or Adriana Lima for a Victoria's Secret lingerie shoot. Who would you obviously pick as your subject?

i'd pick susan boyle yes, it would be obvious to choose adriana lima BUT your photo of that girl would
be just the same as other photographer who shot adriana lima... dali ra pud xa i-shoot, well, gwapa na gud siya.
all i have to do is just tell her to pose and click the shutter. that's it. for sure, gwapa gyud ang output.

now, if i shoot susan boyle wouldn't that be interesting?

it would challenge me to think of a pose na mo-gwapa si susan boyle... na mo-show sa iyang
good side....

for me photography is all about challenges... the challenge to capture the beauty of a mundane
subject that others would dismiss as boring.

[Chipmunk888]

for me photography is all about challenges... the challenge to capture the beauty of a mundane
subject that others would dismiss as boring.

payter dyud ni'g mga pulong si master^^ ehehe

[mokiloo]

^^^here here

[dbgg1979]

What masters in photography are saying on the subject: (from Wikipedia ...)

"No matter how advanced your camera you still need to be responsible for getting it to the right place at the right time and pointing it in the right direction to get the photo you want." - Ken Rockwell - Your Camera Does Not Matter, 2005

"No matter how sophisticated the camera, the photographer is still the one that makes the picture." - Doug Bartlow

"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE." - Ernst Haas - Comment in workshop, 1985

There are 3 key things for good photography: the camera,lighting and... photoshop - Tyra Banks and arisarnado

Can you tell me what these guys are using for their photo assignments? I know Rockwell takes out his best gear for photo assignments and never his ever all time favorite Nikon D40. Btw, he called this camera one of Nikon's crappiest read here --> Nikon 50mm f/1.4 AF-S A guy who is in love with Nikon, but eventually buys Canon and then later on claims that all digital cameras are crap compared to film.

Anyway to the topic.

For me. The indian and the pana, both matters. Although I'd put more weight on the indian, but better equipment is always welcome. Check out the PROs when they do paid assignments. Do you see them use point and shoot cameras? (ok naa gyud mo comment ani, yes naa sad pro mo gamit ug point and shoot, but majority, nope) I say this, because I'm a digital point and shoot user. And its very limiting and frustrating to use a slow camera with very inferior lens and a crappy flash. I get good photos alright, but not without going through a lot (carrying a tripod with you all the time to avoid camera shake in situations where a dslr can easily be handheld). And there are times when you just can't get what you want because your camera limits you. (example. you can't bounce your flash up the ceiling with your point and shoot camera, so I go slow synch flash with camera on a tripod and pleading to all my subjects to please stay still). Then there's good bokehlicious... no way your point and shoot bokeh can compete with a SLR bokeh. (yes yes.. there are times... like 1 in every x something) and finally, speed. Yes, there are really good photos that can only be done with a fast camera --> body and lens. Sports photography example.

If you shoot for yourself, then by all means, use any camera you like. It's your art, your style and nobody's gonna sue you if you fail. There are hobby photogs that even use iphone as their main camera and still make really good photos and even do macro photography with a simple DIY macro lens using a cd players lens.

But when it comes to shooting for a client, you better be sure to give what the client expects and not get limited by your "pana". Or you are one dead indian.

That's where the better PANA comes in. PRO photographers want to factor out the hardware limitation and the possibility that their equipment can't catch up to what they want or worst, fail on them. With the hardware limitation out of the way, photographers can then focus on the task in hand and that is being a photographer.

[arisarnado]

Ahahahaha! unsa man ni? --> "There are 3 key things for good photography: the camera,lighting and... photoshop - Tyra Banks and arisarnado"

Ngano naa man ko diha oi :P

[arisarnado]

OT:
Problem lng gyud nako sa PnS is ang shutter delay After kuha ug isa ka picture, naa pay lag before
ma-ready ang camera na motake napud ug lain picture. @_@

[dbgg1979]

..amateurs worry about equipment,
professionals worry about money,
masters worry about light,
I just take pictures ... Vermont Trent
... but not of PANA or INDIAN.

So which one are you?

Ahahahaha! unsa man ni? --> "There are 3 key things for good photography: the camera,lighting and... photoshop - Tyra Banks and arisarnado"
Ngano naa man ko diha oi :P

One of the legends na ka bai.

OT:
Problem lng gyud nako sa PnS is ang shutter delay After kuha ug isa ka picture, naa pay lag before
ma-ready ang camera na motake napud ug lain picture. @_@

yup, speed. grabe gyud ka lag ang point and shoot. And continuous shooting is nearly useless at 1 photo per second

Anyway, my pana seems to be enough for now. Now time to practice Indian

It's the Indian that matters most, but a better pana, if available, is always welcome