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  1. #31

    @ kebz

    ok sir, whatever blows ur hair back.
    im guessing this is just PMS but i get so emotional everytime someone talks about Islam that way coz its just wrong.

    from the words of mr libz himself...nahala hapos!

    yala habibi yala! surah surah!
    dont wanna be a party pooper..again.
    Last edited by pigrah; 08-08-2009 at 04:51 PM.

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    hello to all.
    pwedi mo-apil diri? stick to the issue lang ako. i dunno unsay history or background ani na thread.
    before ko mu-sulti sako opinyon, i'd like to give my background lang. I'm a practicing catholic, born here in Cebu but was raised at Nasipit, ADN, Mindanao. Sa amo place, majority are Christians pero mga 10% or lesser are muslims. Daghan man ko amigo na muslims sukad sa'ko pagka-bata.. naa ko amigo sa elementary.. naa sad ko lain amigo sa HS. Wala man ko'y nakita na lahi nila. Kung naa'y maldito na kristiyano, naa sad maldito na muslim. Kung naay buotan na kristiyano, naa sad sa muslim. Pero ang ako lang nakita mao na gi-discriminate sila kaau..for example, ang mga bata na kristiyanos, manungog sa ilaha, "waahhh Mulsim! Kidnapper!" naka-recall ko naa sad ko lain amigo na niingon sa ako na basta itom na awto and tinted glass, muslim daw tag-iya kay mangidnap daw..basin mao siguro ni reason na daghan wala na ka-agwanta that's why nag-terrorista sila..ikaw kuno be..maka-experience ka aning mga butanga from your childhood days..dili ba mo-grow ang silent hatred nimo towards christians..

    Now for my opinyon, I think all the items puro ni 20%True but 80% False...

    For example, dili tinuod na "Killing or at least promoting hate against Jews and Christians because Muslims are the new "Holier-than-thou" group" -> sa ila bibliya, naa sila gitawag ug "people of the Book" specifically Jews and Christians.. Historically, mao ni mga tawo na pwedi ra mag-practice sa ila religion within their city/country basta mobayad lang og buwis sa muslims..the rest of the religions (except sa 2 above) are to be converted or subjugated by any means...if ask 'mo why gitawag og people of the book? because the 3 religions called Abraham "FATHER".. If you recall, naa elder son si Abraham sa iya maid. Name is Ishmael, mao ni gi-consider sa mga arabs na father nila.. And ang next son na si Isaac mao ang father ni Israel (Jacob), mao sad gi-consider sa mga Jews, then ang mga Christians na gikan sad sa Jews... This is the reason why na ang mga prophets, including also our Savior are all considered and honored as Prophets by the Muslims.. Proof sa treatment sa Jews and Christians? Look at the Government of Lebanon..and the Parliament of Iran (yes, Iran, the ultimate Jew Hater)..both of these supposedly Islamic states have provisions on represetation from both Christians and Jews..btw, Christians are also guilty of this one..mas grabe gani ato..look out for Hernán Cortés for best example..or the Byzantine~Rome rivalry (both are catholics)..

    For Repressing women and Polygamy issue, wala ko ma-say ani pero depende ra sad ni sa person/culture involve..pero tan-awa ra sad nang mga Amish, Mormons (especially their extremists)..christians man ni sila pero unsa man sad ilaha gi-pangbuhat? Polygamy by the way is accepted in Judaism..

    Sa uban, unya nalang ko comment kay apiki ang lines..hehe..

    God bless you all.. Ayaw lang mo-react ha? Ako2x lang ni intawn..thanks..hehe..
    Last edited by gaevwa; 08-08-2009 at 06:58 PM. Reason: naa lang ko gi-dungang..hehe

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    @gaevwa, how do I pronounce that handle?

    Very nice input from experience (mi-react jud ko).
    wala ko ma-say ani pero depende ra sad ni sa person/culture involve.
    This quote FTW!

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    sir handsoff241, unsay FTW? sorry la ko kasabot..naa ko sayop?hehe..

    additional opinyons nako..

    Beheading everyone who breaks the law.
    ->as mentioned nako ganina, depende sa culture..example, Taliban..dili man ka always putlan ulo pero usually public execution jud na (firing squad or hanging)..pero look at the other countries, Malaysia and Indonesia, pareho ra man ni sila sa Philippines in terms of crimes punishable by deat penalty..
    ->Rome is also guilty of this until Vatican 2..remember the Inquisition? pati si St. Joan of Arc na-apil (witch daw siya pero gihimo santa after a century..)..

    Killing your offspring if they screw up.
    ->if this is true, wala najud unta'y muslim nabilin kay dugay na sila na-extinct
    ->if this is figuratively speaking, tinuod gamay or maybe dako..but still look at the amish communities and other "Christian" sects daw?

    Blowing yourself up because if you kill an infidel that cancels out the suicide.
    ->true to the terrorists, but not in general..
    ->please take note of Indonesia, they are the world's most populous muslim country..yet they are promoting tourism..they would have closed their airports to christian nations if they don't want other religions in their country..true, Bali bombing was a terrorist act..but we're talking about people in general here..not just some terrorist..situation in Indonesia and Philippines are same..they are both fighting muslim terrorists..There are also Christian/Budhist communities in Malaysia and Indonesia, but they are being protected by their Muslim governments..

    Telling others that they're infringing on your religious rights by picking you out of a line at an airport based on your skin color and ethnicity, despite the fact you are actually carrying a bomb, therefore making them correct, and you a terrorist. However that works.
    ->true for terrorists only

    so mga amigo, mao ni ako sulti na 20%true but 80%false..but then again, ako lang ni opinyon (with matching research) ha?..hehe..

    to sum up everything above...we must remove our biases and prejudices for each other in order for us to live in peace.."do unto others what you want others do unto you"..diba?

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    shh, wa man mi storya bible brad, storya mi kuran... waiting pa ko niya...


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    Last edited by LIBER777; 08-08-2009 at 11:32 PM.

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    @ gaevwa FTW means For The Win.

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    OT: oh i thought FTW is F**k The World. . by comedian Will Ferrell. hehehe

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    its ok folks I can take this. hahaha.


    For your information kebs. Islam does not tolerate killing of innocent people. does not endorse repressing women. and does not permit violence.

    However Muslims for they are only human being tend to misunderstood the real intention behind the Laws in Islam.

    I pity you kebs...because you are biting the bait of the propaganda against Islam. That is why one time I invited you to take some lessons about Islam. No need to convert just take some lessons about Islam, the most misunderstood Religion of all time. hehehe.
    well, i think these lessons should be reviewed on most muslims... no bad thing intended... just an observation...

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    F#ck Islam! this is nothing but sh#t...bunch of stupid muslims living on this planet.

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