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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    karoger because i love Coke so much and eat too many jollibee burgers, id rather see capitalism at its finest...

    correct me if im wrong this how i understand communism at its simplest explanation and example: lets say there are 10 people in a community.. the 10 people work in a farm.... and come harvest time they will bring their products at center of the community and divide equally among themselves... now taking in consideration that all person are not the same in their capabilities and intelligence and endurance.. and some person are also lazy... so they will have different output.. some have betters crops...some have more crops and some have less... so they brought they products at center of the community and receive equal share regardless if there worked harder compare to the rest or they brought better crops... even if you worked harder you will receive the same with the one who did not really put his best on farming...

    is that fair?
    with socialism and communism we can have all the ice creams we want nyahahaha!! bitaw oi! naa ra na ang ice cream, ang joliibee wa na noon hahahaha

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    now if you wanna talk about fairness.

    in our current system
    - 5% of the population own 95% of the wealth.
    - and those who own the most get to make the rules.
    - the more money you got, the more money you make.
    - the less money you got, the less you can get.
    - the poorer you are, the worst your education will be and the worst your job will be.
    the video is really great... new perspective

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    i have to agree with KaRoger on this one. Capitalism in a way has really dumbed down society and has also numb people of the horrors of society (myself included hehe), since people are starting to believe that this is "the way it is".

    KaRoger, if you are really interested in a better tomorrow.
    I recommend you watch zeitgeist addendum or the venus project.

    the answer lies in technology. and there's no such thing as utopia, there are no final frontiers because everything is emergent.

    didn't einstein say that "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of consciousness that created them."

    Naa pud horrors ang communism like for example killing fields sa Cambodia and famine sa North Korea and Chernobyl.

  4. #34
    karoger wala ko plan i-trap ka... complex man gud ang man... there will always be people who are more assertive than others while others are naturally more submissive... and others who wants to be diffrent than the rest each of us is unique... and there is also emotional side of man...

    in my opinion a socialist welfare state is better... its still capitalist but it can still provide for its people... such as Den Mark... i think.. im not sure...

    in capitalism there is competition... and also innovation in terms of products of course...

    ummm.. i think capitalism feeds on man's vanity and wants... but we are all vain... or majority of the people are vain... and many are pleasure seekers and hedonist...
    Last edited by b|tcH_g0dd3sS; 02-01-2009 at 11:14 PM.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    karoger wala ko plan i-trap ka... complex man gud ang man... there will always be people who are more assertive than others while others are naturally more submissive... and others who wants to be diffrent than the rest each of us is unique... and there is also emotional side of man...

    in my opinion a socialist welfare state is better... its still capitalist but it can still provide for its people... such as Den Mark... i think.. im not sure...

    in capitalism there is competition... and also innovation in terms of products of course...
    aw.. hehehe pero personally do u wish to exploit the submissive?

    ahh denmark is a welfare state, naa na cyay mga socialist policies, actually most EU states naa...
    mas maayu to entertain the good eotional part of man, and not the agressive competitive side. lingaw ang competition if game lang, pero in real life... lives are at stake... this very moment while nag share ta sa atong insights, there are people some other place in the globe who are dying becoz of hunger and poverty... kana mao ang sad part sa current competition that nations are playing... it hurts pud baya to hear these kinds of news.... if some of us are naturally better we ought to help those who are naturally submissive... Christ would love to see that... hehehehe

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    ummm.. i think capitalism feeds on man's vanity and wants... but we are all vain... or majority of the people are vain... and many are pleasure seekers and hedonist...
    we can seek pleasure hahahahah

    hmmm... well yeah same ta ug insight... sometimes i think gani nga impossible pud ang utopia / communism...

    pero nay dako nga PERO.... impossible sya if ang atong "pleasure seeking tendencies / vanity energies" are directed to exploitative things....

    pero if these energies are directed to the good side... maybe these energies can help in building utopia... imaginative baya ang taw, ambot oi nganu karon akong generation d naman kaayu mo dream... nawagtangan na lagi ug hope paet kaayu...

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by eax View Post
    Naa pud horrors ang communism like for example killing fields sa Cambodia and famine sa North Korea and Chernobyl.
    again i would like to iterate that... it was personal lapses.. not by communism... si pol pot ra a2 sa cambodia... in fact sayup ang pagsabot ni potty sa communism.
    na north korea mao pud, sayup nga central planning.
    sa chernobyl, i think accident ra to? ambot wa ko kabaw sa chernobyl hehehe

    pero d jud to tungod sa communist idea ...

  8. #38
    to those who are interested, intrigue, or simply not having anything good to do. Please watch this video thank you kaayu sa mga ni watch...

    YouTube - MuseandThinker's Channel

    "Capitalism and Kids stuff"

    thank you everyone...

  9. #39
    YouTube - Marx on Communism

    please watch this its very good... funny pud thank you

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    now if you wanna talk about fairness.

    in our current system
    - 5% of the population own 95% of the wealth.
    if communist pa tanan nasod like russia, cuba or china, dako na kaayo nang 0.5% sa population ang owner sa 99% of the wealth. mga leaders ra ang mu kurab ana tanan
    there are people some other place in the globe who are dying becoz of hunger and poverty... kana mao ang sad part sa current competition that nations are playing... it hurts pud baya to hear these kinds of news.... if some of us are naturally better we ought to help those who are naturally submissive... Christ would love to see that... hehehehe
    people in poor places specifically sa africa die not because of capitalism but because of civil wars and warlords. effects of drought could have been minimized if there's peace in the region. aid from the un and humanitarian missions were blocked by these warlords whose using hunger as a weapon. in our country, people are dying of hunger because our population is just too big for our natural resources and the economy to compensate. if only our population have been controlled, food and jobs will be competed by few people unlike whats happening right now where a low income job is competed by thousands of people

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